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  • sunshine@lemmy.caS [email protected]

    cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/40072140

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    #30

    I think a big problem I see with several pro-lemmy comments in that thread (but also other threads) is that they completely miss the point of the user and just try to shove down the same message that isn't actually relevant to OP.

    Like when OP complains about the user experience with the example of accessing a not-yet-federated community, clearly a mechanical problem that can't easily be fixed by a redesign, and the replies advertise alternate Lemmy frontends or apps. Those don't help with OP's issue at all.

    Or when OP says that they'll probably just leave social media entirely when Reddit goes bad, and people tell them to use Lemmy apps...

    It honestly feels sometimes like I'm reading bot responses. Imo this is just turning people off even more, the ads need to be more context aware.

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      I think a big problem I see with several pro-lemmy comments in that thread (but also other threads) is that they completely miss the point of the user and just try to shove down the same message that isn't actually relevant to OP.

      Like when OP complains about the user experience with the example of accessing a not-yet-federated community, clearly a mechanical problem that can't easily be fixed by a redesign, and the replies advertise alternate Lemmy frontends or apps. Those don't help with OP's issue at all.

      Or when OP says that they'll probably just leave social media entirely when Reddit goes bad, and people tell them to use Lemmy apps...

      It honestly feels sometimes like I'm reading bot responses. Imo this is just turning people off even more, the ads need to be more context aware.

      blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB This user is from outside of this forum
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      #31

      Like when OP complains about the user experience with the example of accessing a not-yet-federated community, clearly a mechanical problem that can’t easily be fixed by a redesign, and the replies advertise alternate Lemmy frontends or apps. Those don’t help with OP’s issue at all.

      The first point of that comment is about the interface, hence the suggestions to alternative frontends.

      The community was federated, but the user wasn't using their local version, they thought they had to use the community host instance.

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        That just seems malicious to anyone who might find your answer and get increasingly frustrated by your incorrect advice.

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        #32

        It makes reddit less helpful i dont want to be helpful if it helps reddit make a dime

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          Yeah and we hate you for it.

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          #33

          I used to, then reddit banned me, now I cant delete my comments, it feels awful that im helping ppl and a site im banned from is making money off me, it doesnt matter if its even a dollar of ad money, what if my comment showing up on google motivates someone to dload the app

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            Reddit is a censorship hellhole.

            The modlog is one of the greatest features of lemmy.

            Fuck censorship.

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            #34

            censorship is at least entertaining here becuase of the modlog and subs discussing it reddit drama isnt even entertaining there because those posts get locked and everyone temp banend or perma banned

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              And honestly it does look dodgy, lemmy.com would be great.

              This only makes the problem worse. We need to expose people to other TLDs and subdomains so they can see for themselves how expansive and adaptable the internet really is.

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              yeah corporations having a hold on us means we only trust what they use, all new domains seem sus

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              • blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB [email protected]

                Let’s keep guiding them to better UX

                I've been trying the Photon/Voyager approach, the issue is that some people despise Photon and modernist interfaces with a passion, there's a comment on that thread I had to link to old.lemmy.zip

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                #36

                Some people will never be happy...

                I think people who like .old tend to be more tech savvy, and can figure out how to find a UI they like

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                • blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB [email protected]

                  Let’s keep guiding them to better UX

                  I've been trying the Photon/Voyager approach, the issue is that some people despise Photon and modernist interfaces with a passion, there's a comment on that thread I had to link to old.lemmy.zip

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                  #37

                  Maybe alongside the modern UIs, you could include a line about the mlmym interfaces.

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                    And as usual, the top comment related to Lemmy is people complaining about bad UX

                    Let's keep guiding them to better UX

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                    #38

                    I don’t know if we want users who can’t grasp the concept that Lemmy and Lemmy.world are different entities and thinks that all of Lemmy should just be Lemmy.com

                    I think just having a Lemmy branded app with a proper UX is a good thing but let’s not just throw the baby out with the bathwater chasing people who just want Lemmy to be Reddit but it doesn’t make them feel yucky using it.

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                      Reddit is trash. I got banned for hating on Nazis, they will bend to Trump, cut off porn and throw the ban hammer down. Reddit is only good for finding tech answers from the past. Everything else is trash.

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                      #39

                      I never got banned. I just left because the greedy little CEO is a liar that sacrificed the only thing that made the site good, 3rd party apps, on the alter of the almighty dollar during the API debacle.

                      To be honest the quality of posts, comments, and moderation policies had gone way down hill since at least 2020. The killing of 3rd party apps just gave me the motivation to finally leave

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                        And as usual, the top comment related to Lemmy is people complaining about bad UX

                        Let's keep guiding them to better UX

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                        #40

                        I really forgot how stupid some reddit comments are. I do not miss that site.

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                          I never got banned. I just left because the greedy little CEO is a liar that sacrificed the only thing that made the site good, 3rd party apps, on the alter of the almighty dollar during the API debacle.

                          To be honest the quality of posts, comments, and moderation policies had gone way down hill since at least 2020. The killing of 3rd party apps just gave me the motivation to finally leave

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                          To be honest the quality of posts, comments, and moderation policies had gone way down hill since at least 2020.

                          Wasn't that when they banned /r/chapotraphouse? 🤔

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                          • sunshine@lemmy.caS [email protected]

                            cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/40072140

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                            #42

                            It's unfortunate that people still think Brave is a good privacy alternative. Ungoogled-Chromium is a better alternative but also unfortunately requires manual upkeep. The best alternative is to use Mull or LibreWolf currently and some form of abstraction if you're concerned about security as well.

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                              Maybe alongside the modern UIs, you could include a line about the mlmym interfaces.

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                              But then they'll say it's confusing to have several links to the same website x)

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                              • T [email protected]

                                I don’t know if we want users who can’t grasp the concept that Lemmy and Lemmy.world are different entities and thinks that all of Lemmy should just be Lemmy.com

                                I think just having a Lemmy branded app with a proper UX is a good thing but let’s not just throw the baby out with the bathwater chasing people who just want Lemmy to be Reddit but it doesn’t make them feel yucky using it.

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                                Thank you for your comments on Reddit btw

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                                  I don’t know if we want users who can’t grasp the concept that Lemmy and Lemmy.world are different entities and thinks that all of Lemmy should just be Lemmy.com

                                  I think just having a Lemmy branded app with a proper UX is a good thing but let’s not just throw the baby out with the bathwater chasing people who just want Lemmy to be Reddit but it doesn’t make them feel yucky using it.

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                                  Do we have any fun infographics to help educate those that aren't autodidacts?

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                                  • blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB [email protected]

                                    But then they'll say it's confusing to have several links to the same website x)

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                                    In my opinion, most people won't get confused by the 'old' interface being at a different subdomain, especially as Reddit did it themselves (apparently they had new.reddit.com which hosted an older redesign than reddit.com, like wtf!?? But somehow people understood that distinction, so this should be fine) Then again, I could be too much of a nerd and overestimating people 😛 (insert relevent xkcd here)

                                    btw, does sopuli.xyz have the mlmym interface?

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                                      Do we have any fun infographics to help educate those that aren't autodidacts?

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                                      Not sure if it's "fun", but there was this meme: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/21725602

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                                      • fizz@lemmy.nzF [email protected]

                                        I really forgot how stupid some reddit comments are. I do not miss that site.

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                                        What if I told you that there are really stupid comments on Lemmy as well

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                                          Do we have any fun infographics to help educate those that aren't autodidacts?

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                                          This guide is pretty good
                                          https://fedecan.ca/en/guide/get-started

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