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So… when there is some controversy over an article in Lemmy it gets the strike though?

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    So… when there is some controversy over an article in Lemmy it gets the strike though? How did this evolve?

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    You can edit the title, so if you want to strike through it, go ahead.

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    • remembertheapollo_@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

      If you read the article:

      We are aware of the recent false claims suggesting that a Brother firmware update may have restricted the use of third-party ink cartridges. Please be assured that Brother firmware updates do not block the use of third-party ink in our machines.

      So there’s no reason to leave an inflammatory and likely wrong title unchanged or otherwise without notation. The title is completely readable. I’m all for wrong information being flagged, and a strikethrough is a fine method of doing so.

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      I see editability as generally an improvement, especially since the older versions are still visible with a couple of clicks. Reddit titles are not editable. Tweets used to be uneditable; toots are.

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      • remembertheapollo_@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

        If you read the article:

        We are aware of the recent false claims suggesting that a Brother firmware update may have restricted the use of third-party ink cartridges. Please be assured that Brother firmware updates do not block the use of third-party ink in our machines.

        So there’s no reason to leave an inflammatory and likely wrong title unchanged or otherwise without notation. The title is completely readable. I’m all for wrong information being flagged, and a strikethrough is a fine method of doing so.

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        We don't know if it's wrong though, we just have a statement from the company claiming it is. Now it's on the community to prove it.

        It's potentially wrong. I guess we'll see in the coming weeks as people try to prove it one way or another.

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        • remembertheapollo_@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

          If you read the article:

          We are aware of the recent false claims suggesting that a Brother firmware update may have restricted the use of third-party ink cartridges. Please be assured that Brother firmware updates do not block the use of third-party ink in our machines.

          So there’s no reason to leave an inflammatory and likely wrong title unchanged or otherwise without notation. The title is completely readable. I’m all for wrong information being flagged, and a strikethrough is a fine method of doing so.

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          Totally agree. Just the first time I have seen the notation.

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            We don't know if it's wrong though, we just have a statement from the company claiming it is. Now it's on the community to prove it.

            It's potentially wrong. I guess we'll see in the coming weeks as people try to prove it one way or another.

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            There is no official report of Brother doing what it’s accused of. Only a couple people having issues with a few cartridges, no analysis of whether the flaw was in the third party cartridge or an actual firmware issue, but we should get out the pitchforks and torches and leave a completely unproven statement up? I completely disagree. There’s too much BS passed off as objective truth as it is.

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              There is no official report of Brother doing what it’s accused of. Only a couple people having issues with a few cartridges, no analysis of whether the flaw was in the third party cartridge or an actual firmware issue, but we should get out the pitchforks and torches and leave a completely unproven statement up? I completely disagree. There’s too much BS passed off as objective truth as it is.

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              One or two reports could be chalked up to noise. Rossmann provided much more than that. I'm not saying he's right, I'm just saying there's sufficient evidence that I'm not just going to accept "nope, we don't do that."

              We certainly need more evidence, and hopefully Rossmann's video reaches enough people to get it, one way or another. He has demonstrated admitting when he is wrong, and he has also demonstrated doing the research.

              I doubt this is the last we hear about this, and I sincerely hope Brother is redeemed.

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                I see editability as generally an improvement, especially since the older versions are still visible with a couple of clicks. Reddit titles are not editable. Tweets used to be uneditable; toots are.

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                The original rationale for not having editing, at least on Reddit and Twitter, was concerns that someone could get a viral post, and then edit it to spam.

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                  One or two reports could be chalked up to noise. Rossmann provided much more than that. I'm not saying he's right, I'm just saying there's sufficient evidence that I'm not just going to accept "nope, we don't do that."

                  We certainly need more evidence, and hopefully Rossmann's video reaches enough people to get it, one way or another. He has demonstrated admitting when he is wrong, and he has also demonstrated doing the research.

                  I doubt this is the last we hear about this, and I sincerely hope Brother is redeemed.

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                  I am in no way suggesting we shouldn’t be wary and not investigate. Crappy 3rd party engineering could be an issue. Placing a declarative title with no qualification as truth (because nobody reads the article) despite the quote from the corporation itself denying it in the article shouldn’t be done. Like I said, too much of that happening these days.

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                    I am in no way suggesting we shouldn’t be wary and not investigate. Crappy 3rd party engineering could be an issue. Placing a declarative title with no qualification as truth (because nobody reads the article) despite the quote from the corporation itself denying it in the article shouldn’t be done. Like I said, too much of that happening these days.

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                    Crappy 3rd party engineering could be an issue.

                    Sure. However, I've seen allegations that swapping chips worked for one person and failed for another. That needs to be investigated.

                    too much of that happening these days

                    Agreed. Only claim what you have the receipts for. Clickbait blows.

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                      Crappy 3rd party engineering could be an issue.

                      Sure. However, I've seen allegations that swapping chips worked for one person and failed for another. That needs to be investigated.

                      too much of that happening these days

                      Agreed. Only claim what you have the receipts for. Clickbait blows.

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                      Yes…the engineering could have been in the chip.

                      The rest, we’re on the same page.

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