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Well, exactly the same can and is happening on specific Lemmy servers too.

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  • spaniard@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

    Vegan cat food? What the frak, poor cats.

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    its sickening how they pretend to care about animals and nature by being vegan yet its just egotripping and blatant animal abuse. If they actually care about animals they should be the first ones denouncing vegan cat food.

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    • ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.comD [email protected]

      Well, exactly the same can and is happening on specific Lemmy servers too.

      One of the vegan instances bans you if you downvote anything that speaks in favour of veganism. Not that I just do this out of spite, but there was this time where a thread about vegan cat food gained traction and I downvoted some comments that were really borderline. Ban within an hour.

      Same on that notorious star trek instance. Go ahead and put some downvotes on Discovery related posts, it will also earn you a temporary ban.

      So let's not pretend that it's only big bad reddit doing this.

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      Plus side here is that people can move to another instance and start commenting right away as opposed to being shadow banned for a period in certain subs and having to build up enough karma to start not automatically having every comment flagged.

      People aren't stuck the the policies of instances they don't agree with whether it be reasons for bans or what instances are blocked or whitelisted.

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      • R [email protected]

        its sickening how they pretend to care about animals and nature by being vegan yet its just egotripping and blatant animal abuse. If they actually care about animals they should be the first ones denouncing vegan cat food.

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        It's already bad enough that a lot of dry cat food in the market has grain (and the high cost of grainless alternatives) to even considering giving vegan food to a cat pffff.

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        • ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.comD [email protected]

          Well, exactly the same can and is happening on specific Lemmy servers too.

          One of the vegan instances bans you if you downvote anything that speaks in favour of veganism. Not that I just do this out of spite, but there was this time where a thread about vegan cat food gained traction and I downvoted some comments that were really borderline. Ban within an hour.

          Same on that notorious star trek instance. Go ahead and put some downvotes on Discovery related posts, it will also earn you a temporary ban.

          So let's not pretend that it's only big bad reddit doing this.

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          Yes, Lemmyverse will fragment, so it's important to choose sufficiently permissive instances or even run your own.

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          • ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.comD [email protected]

            Well, exactly the same can and is happening on specific Lemmy servers too.

            One of the vegan instances bans you if you downvote anything that speaks in favour of veganism. Not that I just do this out of spite, but there was this time where a thread about vegan cat food gained traction and I downvoted some comments that were really borderline. Ban within an hour.

            Same on that notorious star trek instance. Go ahead and put some downvotes on Discovery related posts, it will also earn you a temporary ban.

            So let's not pretend that it's only big bad reddit doing this.

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            It's way easier to do with Lemmy compared to Reddit. Because of its federated design, it's trivial to subscribe to a stream of all activity in a community (posts, comments, upvotes, downvotes, moderation actions, etc) and do things when particular actions happen. Unlike Reddit, on Lemmy you can get a list of who upvoted or downvoted a post or comment.

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            • ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.comD [email protected]

              Well, exactly the same can and is happening on specific Lemmy servers too.

              One of the vegan instances bans you if you downvote anything that speaks in favour of veganism. Not that I just do this out of spite, but there was this time where a thread about vegan cat food gained traction and I downvoted some comments that were really borderline. Ban within an hour.

              Same on that notorious star trek instance. Go ahead and put some downvotes on Discovery related posts, it will also earn you a temporary ban.

              So let's not pretend that it's only big bad reddit doing this.

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              Its decentalised nature doesn't get you removed from the whole network though unlike Reddit. You can always interact with other instances.

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              • dan@upvote.auD [email protected]

                It's way easier to do with Lemmy compared to Reddit. Because of its federated design, it's trivial to subscribe to a stream of all activity in a community (posts, comments, upvotes, downvotes, moderation actions, etc) and do things when particular actions happen. Unlike Reddit, on Lemmy you can get a list of who upvoted or downvoted a post or comment.

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                Which I don't have a problem with. Having vastly different moderation policies can create a walled garden, but there are instances where a walled garden is just preferable. See how askhistorians was handled. It's better to have a platform that you can shape to your needs and the potential needs of your users. If it's truly useless, then nobody would use it

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                • spaniard@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                  It's already bad enough that a lot of dry cat food in the market has grain (and the high cost of grainless alternatives) to even considering giving vegan food to a cat pffff.

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                  Dry food is the worst between their diabetes risk and CKD risk.

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                  • ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.comD [email protected]

                    Well, exactly the same can and is happening on specific Lemmy servers too.

                    One of the vegan instances bans you if you downvote anything that speaks in favour of veganism. Not that I just do this out of spite, but there was this time where a thread about vegan cat food gained traction and I downvoted some comments that were really borderline. Ban within an hour.

                    Same on that notorious star trek instance. Go ahead and put some downvotes on Discovery related posts, it will also earn you a temporary ban.

                    So let's not pretend that it's only big bad reddit doing this.

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                    Lemmy even has the option to disable downvotes, so they’re obviously using downvotes as some kind of purity test.

                    Side note, there should be a way to soft block certain instances so you can see and interact with its federated posts but not send anything to the instance itself. You want to limit open discussion on your instance? Fine, but everyone else is still going to talk about you.

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                    • corkyskog@sh.itjust.worksC [email protected]

                      Dry food is the worst between their diabetes risk and CKD risk.

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                      Really? I give my cats dry food, but there's no grain in it, all meat. Expensive, but worth it!

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                      • ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.comD [email protected]

                        Well, exactly the same can and is happening on specific Lemmy servers too.

                        One of the vegan instances bans you if you downvote anything that speaks in favour of veganism. Not that I just do this out of spite, but there was this time where a thread about vegan cat food gained traction and I downvoted some comments that were really borderline. Ban within an hour.

                        Same on that notorious star trek instance. Go ahead and put some downvotes on Discovery related posts, it will also earn you a temporary ban.

                        So let's not pretend that it's only big bad reddit doing this.

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                        if someone does that post it in yepowertrippinbastards and make a new sub on a different instance, id join, ppl can be made aware here

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                          Discovery is shit.

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                          It had its moments, but everytime id start to like it theyd pull some shit that south park would make fun of

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                          • J [email protected]

                            Lemmy even has the option to disable downvotes, so they’re obviously using downvotes as some kind of purity test.

                            Side note, there should be a way to soft block certain instances so you can see and interact with its federated posts but not send anything to the instance itself. You want to limit open discussion on your instance? Fine, but everyone else is still going to talk about you.

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                            if you block an instance, it doesn't block the users or their posts on other instances

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                              Really? I give my cats dry food, but there's no grain in it, all meat. Expensive, but worth it!

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                              That reduces diabetes risk, but not CKD risk.

                              Cats evolved from desert dwellers and often don't like drinking water, they rarely do so in nature and get most of their liquids from their food. If a cat only eats dry food and doesn't drink enough kidney disease is just an inevitability. Of our 3 cats only one of them drinks water regularly.

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                              • corkyskog@sh.itjust.worksC [email protected]

                                That reduces diabetes risk, but not CKD risk.

                                Cats evolved from desert dwellers and often don't like drinking water, they rarely do so in nature and get most of their liquids from their food. If a cat only eats dry food and doesn't drink enough kidney disease is just an inevitability. Of our 3 cats only one of them drinks water regularly.

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                                Interesting. Well, I can confirm that my cats drink water, and a lot of it! One is nearly 13, the other 4, and they both drink multiple times per day.

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                                • ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.comD [email protected]

                                  Well, exactly the same can and is happening on specific Lemmy servers too.

                                  One of the vegan instances bans you if you downvote anything that speaks in favour of veganism. Not that I just do this out of spite, but there was this time where a thread about vegan cat food gained traction and I downvoted some comments that were really borderline. Ban within an hour.

                                  Same on that notorious star trek instance. Go ahead and put some downvotes on Discovery related posts, it will also earn you a temporary ban.

                                  So let's not pretend that it's only big bad reddit doing this.

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                                  Yes, but that is like being banned on a specific Reddit. You didnt follow the rules. Reddit will ban you from the entire platform.

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                                  • julielemming@lemm.eeJ [email protected]

                                    Never seen but just cause I am in edgy mood today: discovery is utter garbage

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                                    I think what pissed me off most with Discovery was them stealing that Tardigrade storyline from a videogame and then fighting the poor game developer down to the last in court.
                                    Also, that storyline made no sense for Star Trek.

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                                    • ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.comD [email protected]

                                      A little, sure, but from my point of view (which you are happy to disagree with), very little.

                                      Personally I am a big Star Trek fan. I was stoked to see there is an actual dedicated Lemmy server for it, with many communities focused around everything Star Trek. But I disagree with their admin/moderation so much I had to change my account to another server. At some point ended up blocking the whole instance because I just cannot keep myself to just reading what others are posting.

                                      So even if I can use another server, I cannot use those communities. Similar if I were a vegan and would not agree with what some of the more extreme users are posting.

                                      There are not many active alternatives for these communities on Lemmy.

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                                      I think your experience highlights the main difference, the ability to leave an instance and disengage with authoritarian assholes without having to leave Lemmy. On reddit your only options are to leave or comply.

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                                      • spaniard@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                        Vegan cat food? What the frak, poor cats.

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                                        Yeah. I'm a vegan and I took issue with that. Sure we can do scientific studies to see how cats do on vegan diets, but imo that further propels cat domestication which vegans should be against at the very beginning. We already subject cats and other pets to environments that aren't natural to their genetic history. And now vegans are introducing foods that aren't natural, even though taking cats off streets can be seen as the more ethical thing to do, given the alternatives.

                                        Lots of nuance here, but it's not fair to the cats. Any time vegans think for themselves instead of the real victims of animal slavery, they undermine their entire cause.

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                                          I feel like there's a difference between various moderators power-tripping on their own little fiefdoms, and a site wide policy.

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                                          Good point. The other important difference is that on Lemmy you can jump to a different server. Once you get banned on Reddit, that's it.

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