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Micron just demoed the world's fastest SSD with PCIe 6.x tech, a sequential read speed of 27GB/s, and yes, it's just a prototype for now

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    What about latency though?

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    The latency of RAM has been around 10ns for the last couple decades. The latency of a good NVMe SSD is about 1000 times worse than RAM.

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      I just want bigger drives... I feel like we've been stuck at 1TB for at least a decade.

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      SSDs have gotten much cheaper.
      10 years ago, they were over $0.50/GB, now they're just over $0.04/GB
      That's over 12 times cheaper.

      You can get a 2tb ssd for $85. 10 years ago a 2tb ssd would've been super expensive and very boogie.

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        I do think the demand decreased in the past decade. The average consumer has their photos and documents in the cloud and signs up to streaming services for movies, shows, and music.

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        But on the opposite end games are only getting bigger and fast internet is still semi expensive so having large drives would be beneficial to people that want to keep multiple games installed on their PC/console.

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          I have never once been about to tell a real world difference in SSD speeds. Until OS I/O code improves, faster SSDs don't excite me.

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            Okay cool, but post the random IOPs please.

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              I have never once been about to tell a real world difference in SSD speeds. Until OS I/O code improves, faster SSDs don't excite me.

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              There was a jump between old early gen SATA SSDs and modern NVMe in my opinion, but it's really only noticable if you're running something like a game with a huge amount of data to load, and you're actively comparing the two.

              My old PC had several different hard drives of differing types and I'd periodically be too lazy to move a game from one drive to another so I'd play it off different drives over a period of time, and was able to compare the loading times.

              So I'd say they're faster, but it's nowhere near the leap that HDD to SSD was.

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                You can get spinning rust all the way up to 32 TB in a single 3.5" disk and 8 TB in an NVMe drive. The tech is out there, but it takes time for the price of stuff like that to come down when there isnt much demand for it.

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                There are 32 and 64TB enterprise SSDs out there now too.

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                  I wonder if we reach to the point we're RAM would be unnecessary.

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                    There was a jump between old early gen SATA SSDs and modern NVMe in my opinion, but it's really only noticable if you're running something like a game with a huge amount of data to load, and you're actively comparing the two.

                    My old PC had several different hard drives of differing types and I'd periodically be too lazy to move a game from one drive to another so I'd play it off different drives over a period of time, and was able to compare the loading times.

                    So I'd say they're faster, but it's nowhere near the leap that HDD to SSD was.

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                    I agree. HDD to SSD was a huge leap. NVME was a small, sometimes noticable upgrade. Past that, I can't tell a difference. And it's hard to get excited about the hardware updates when the software can't use it.

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                      Sequential read/write is very rarely interesting, cool to see it's possible though. Random read/write and IOPS are much more important for daily use, preferably numbers without cache. Better cell endurance is always a bonus too, though I have yet to have a SSD die on me, probably just luck at this point.

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                        I wonder if we reach to the point we're RAM would be unnecessary.

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                        27GB/s is faster than DDR4 RAM.

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                          Impressive. Very nice. Now let's see the random read/write speed.

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                            It's twice the amount you were complaining about, and there are bigger drives than the one I have.

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                            exactly. Thank you.

                            Back in 2012 an affordable $40 flash drive was 1GB. Now $40 gets you a 512GB.

                            $90 would have netted you a 2GB full-size SD card. Now you get a 1TB MicroSD with adapter

                            $80 would get you 1TB in spinning rust in 2012... now, with $80 you get... 1TB or if you stretch the budget a little, 2TB. But what if you own a bunch of games like Ark Survival Evolved that take up 435GB of space? Shell out $649

                            Back when I bought the 1TB, I installed the entire steam library I owned onto it. Now I can't get more than 6-7 new titles installed. I'm ignoring how insanely fast drives have gotten over the years, but my complaint is storage.

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                              Impressive. Very nice. Now let's see the random read/write speed.

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                              Let’s see Paul Allen’s io.

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                                27GB/s is faster than DDR4 RAM.

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                                Just wait until they come out with DDR4 SAM.

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                                  SSDs have gotten much cheaper.
                                  10 years ago, they were over $0.50/GB, now they're just over $0.04/GB
                                  That's over 12 times cheaper.

                                  You can get a 2tb ssd for $85. 10 years ago a 2tb ssd would've been super expensive and very boogie.

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                                  Where can you get a 2TB SSD for $85? Most 2TB SSD's I've seen cost about €120 with the cheapest going down to €98.

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                                    SSDs have gotten much cheaper.
                                    10 years ago, they were over $0.50/GB, now they're just over $0.04/GB
                                    That's over 12 times cheaper.

                                    You can get a 2tb ssd for $85. 10 years ago a 2tb ssd would've been super expensive and very boogie.

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                                    SSDs were even cheaper until memory manufacturers decided it was getting too cheap: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-prices-predicted-to-skyrocket-throughout-2024

                                    They predicted prices would go higher and, through the magic of intentionally constricting supply, it happened. Prices still have not dropped back down to where they were in 2023.

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                                      It will still be sold at a fraction of what Apple charges for their far inferior SSDs.

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                                        That’s more than DDR4 Ram bandwidth. Whoa!

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