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The Fediverse Isn’t the Future. It’s the Present We’ve Been Denied.

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  • abnormalhumanbeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.spaceA [email protected]

    The problem isn’t that the fediverse isn’t viable. The problem isn’t that it’s “too complicated.” The problem is that the giants of Silicon Valley have spent 20 years convincing us that anything outside their control isn’t worth our time.

    And that’s just not bloody true.

    Couldn't have said it better myself

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    Personally, I prefer an intellectual barrier to entry. It’s one of the things that made the internet of the early days so much better than today.

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    • abnormalhumanbeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.spaceA [email protected]

      The problem isn’t that the fediverse isn’t viable. The problem isn’t that it’s “too complicated.” The problem is that the giants of Silicon Valley have spent 20 years convincing us that anything outside their control isn’t worth our time.

      And that’s just not bloody true.

      Couldn't have said it better myself

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      I don’t think it’s too complicated, but it is noticeably more complicated than joining traditional social media. People often get immediately freaked out by the whole concept of instances. I know everybody keeps trying to use the email comparison, but that just is not working. People cannot connect the dots between email and something like Instagram.

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        Personally, I prefer an intellectual barrier to entry. It’s one of the things that made the internet of the early days so much better than today.

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        Everybody who says this assumes they wouldn’t have been barred from entry were they to try and get in now.

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          Everybody who says this assumes they wouldn’t have been barred from entry were they to try and get in now.

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          I was speaking more to the early days of the internet. You had to be relatively smart, and determined to get on it.

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            I am a hostage that has been set free from a prison camp. Thank you Fedi.

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              I don’t think it’s too complicated, but it is noticeably more complicated than joining traditional social media. People often get immediately freaked out by the whole concept of instances. I know everybody keeps trying to use the email comparison, but that just is not working. People cannot connect the dots between email and something like Instagram.

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              It would help to change the nomenclature. Joining a Facebook “group” makes sense to anybody. Change insider jargon like “instance” to seeker-friendly verbiage like “village.”

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              • abnormalhumanbeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.spaceA [email protected]

                The problem isn’t that the fediverse isn’t viable. The problem isn’t that it’s “too complicated.” The problem is that the giants of Silicon Valley have spent 20 years convincing us that anything outside their control isn’t worth our time.

                And that’s just not bloody true.

                Couldn't have said it better myself

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                I would argue it is closer to 60 years.

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                  I don’t think it’s too complicated, but it is noticeably more complicated than joining traditional social media. People often get immediately freaked out by the whole concept of instances. I know everybody keeps trying to use the email comparison, but that just is not working. People cannot connect the dots between email and something like Instagram.

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                  I remember joining reddit when it had the old interface and thinking that it is super unintuitive and complicated compared to all other social media. This didn't stop reddit from growing and i don't think lemmy will be restricted by this in the long run. People generally are just not aware of the fediverse and how it works yet but they will get used to it.

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                    I was speaking more to the early days of the internet. You had to be relatively smart, and determined to get on it.

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                    I'll never forget when the AOLers started showing up.

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                    • nulluser@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                      I'll never forget when the AOLers started showing up.

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                      yeah, they sure ruined newsgroups…

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                        yeah, they sure ruined newsgroups…

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                        Eternal September

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                          Eternal September

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                          Yup. I’ll admit, I didn’t foresee AI coming along and finding a way to make the quality of discourse even worse

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                          • the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                            It's the social media equivalent of supporting a bunch of Mom and Pop shops (or opening your own!) vs some hyper-sanitized, corporate monstrosity like Wal-Mart.

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                            There are a lot of people who prioritize convenience above all else. Why go shop at a butcher, baker, green grocer, and a liquor store when you can go to one place and get it all? Doesn't matter that the separate entities are specialized and therefore more knowledgeable about the product vs. Walmart where asking an employee is the most useless thing ever.

                            Same with social media or things like Google. People are lazy. Why shop around when Facebook gives you everything? Why learn how to use the address bar when Google will do the work for you.

                            So the fediverse goes against that in that it asks users to actually think for a moment about things and requires them to shop around... which, that's just too much work for the average person.

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                              I don’t think it’s too complicated, but it is noticeably more complicated than joining traditional social media. People often get immediately freaked out by the whole concept of instances. I know everybody keeps trying to use the email comparison, but that just is not working. People cannot connect the dots between email and something like Instagram.

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                              https://lemmy.zip/post/33507041

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                                The fediverse won’t succeed just because it’s better. It will succeed if and only if people choose it.

                                Part of that is making it monetizable. Influencers can build huge followings (and make some cash) because existing platforms recommend their content to other users.

                                Mastodon devs have chosen not to provide recommendations and quote posts. That's reasonable, but it reduces the utility of the platform, and it cedes space to Twitter & co.

                                To my knowledge, the only creator that's exclusive to Lemmy is the unix surrealism author. Until it's easy to monetize content, we're gonna have a hard time attracting creators, and a hard time attracting users.

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                                • the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                                  It's the social media equivalent of supporting a bunch of Mom and Pop shops (or opening your own!) vs some hyper-sanitized, corporate monstrosity like Wal-Mart.

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                                  It's more like supporting open to all maker spaces. Many contributes to what's there.

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                                  • eta@feddit.orgE [email protected]

                                    I remember joining reddit when it had the old interface and thinking that it is super unintuitive and complicated compared to all other social media. This didn't stop reddit from growing and i don't think lemmy will be restricted by this in the long run. People generally are just not aware of the fediverse and how it works yet but they will get used to it.

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                                    Reddit’s complexity was always vastly overstated. You can login and be posting in seconds in a way that you simply can’t with the fediverse

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                                    • abnormalhumanbeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.spaceA [email protected]

                                      The problem isn’t that the fediverse isn’t viable. The problem isn’t that it’s “too complicated.” The problem is that the giants of Silicon Valley have spent 20 years convincing us that anything outside their control isn’t worth our time.

                                      And that’s just not bloody true.

                                      Couldn't have said it better myself

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                                      I lately have a saying:
                                      "If it's not FOSS, it's not worth your time"

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                                        I’m mixed on her articles. Is she a journalist or is she just posting fediverse circle jerk on the fediverse? She writes well but feels like pretty much the same article every time

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                                          The fediverse won’t succeed just because it’s better. It will succeed if and only if people choose it.

                                          Part of that is making it monetizable. Influencers can build huge followings (and make some cash) because existing platforms recommend their content to other users.

                                          Mastodon devs have chosen not to provide recommendations and quote posts. That's reasonable, but it reduces the utility of the platform, and it cedes space to Twitter & co.

                                          To my knowledge, the only creator that's exclusive to Lemmy is the unix surrealism author. Until it's easy to monetize content, we're gonna have a hard time attracting creators, and a hard time attracting users.

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                                          There are a million and one great reasons to be here on Lemmy, but using it to get cash from fellow users wallets is not one of them.

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