“Third party ink” existing as a phrase is the problem.
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I get what you're saying but agree with the other guy. Just saying brother's ink or toner is first party instantly makes it sound like other brands are inferior. Just because you're intelligent enough to know that's not true doesn't mean everyone is. If recent history has taught me anything, it's that the average person is far less intelligent than you'd assume.
Just saying brother's ink or toner is first party instantly makes it sound like other brands are inferior.
No, it doesn't. Saying third party just means not manufactured by first party, first party being printer manufacturer.
Would you not buy Baldurs Gate 3 cause it's a third party game? Would you not buy Call of Duty because it's a third party game? Do you pay more for gas at ExxonMobil, because Costco sells third party gas for cheaper?
You buy third party all the time. Saying third party sounds bad is just stupid.
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This is the kind of stupidity that has us reinventing language constantly. Words mean what they mean. To hell with how they make you feel. BLACKLIST WHITELIST
The horror!feelings are important, though? if i can avoid hurting someone and all it costs me is saying blocklist instead of blacklist, that seems like an obvious slam dunk
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feelings are important, though? if i can avoid hurting someone and all it costs me is saying blocklist instead of blacklist, that seems like an obvious slam dunk
Your feelings are yours to manage. You say why hurt someone when you can avoid it. I say why get hurt in the first place? Everyone has feelings about everything. No feeling is any more valid than any other feeling.
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Just saying brother's ink or toner is first party instantly makes it sound like other brands are inferior.
No, it doesn't. Saying third party just means not manufactured by first party, first party being printer manufacturer.
Would you not buy Baldurs Gate 3 cause it's a third party game? Would you not buy Call of Duty because it's a third party game? Do you pay more for gas at ExxonMobil, because Costco sells third party gas for cheaper?
You buy third party all the time. Saying third party sounds bad is just stupid.
Exactly! The difference with third party is that the manufacturer won't test it, so you're relying on the third party to verify that it works.
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Your feelings are yours to manage. You say why hurt someone when you can avoid it. I say why get hurt in the first place? Everyone has feelings about everything. No feeling is any more valid than any other feeling.
Exactly. Don't go out of your way to hurt others, and don't go out of your way to be hurt. It has nothing to do with race, and it has been used for hundreds of years.
If someone gets fired while sunburnt, should they be offended by the term "pink slip"? No, that's ridiculous, because the color in the terminology has nothing to do with race. That's exactly the same with blacklist and whitelist.
Now, if there was a racist underpinning there, I'd understand pushing for terminology changes. But there isn't, so stop finding new ways to be offended.
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Meh, I think it's pretty straight forward. It's just a description of the scenario.
Mario games are first party content, because they're made by the same company that makes the console.
I've used printers that don't have cartridges, instead they just have ink wells you can fill with any ink. You do have more freedom with ink choices, but they're a different kind of hassle. It's not simply a better solution.
(Speaking of solutions, sometimes the ink you buy is more of a suspension than a solution, and it'll clump up and dry in the feed hoses, a real pain in the ass.)
but they’re a different kind of hassle
Can you elaborate on this? I thought they would be straight up better to work with and I was thinking of buying one in the future. Is it just about the drying up issue you mentioned or are there other drawbacks?
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but they’re a different kind of hassle
Can you elaborate on this? I thought they would be straight up better to work with and I was thinking of buying one in the future. Is it just about the drying up issue you mentioned or are there other drawbacks?
I mean yeah, most systems with a reservoir are going to use some kind of feed tubes to get the ink to the print head, and tubes just clog; basically, they only have 2 states of existence and one of them is "clogged". If you do very regular printing, like a full color page at least twice a week, then they aren't going to clog, but very few people actually print that often.
Truth be told, I'm just done with inkjet printing all together. At this point I can't recommend anything but a laser printer, you tend to pay more up front, but then it actually works and it keeps working for a decade or more.
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Exactly. Don't go out of your way to hurt others, and don't go out of your way to be hurt. It has nothing to do with race, and it has been used for hundreds of years.
If someone gets fired while sunburnt, should they be offended by the term "pink slip"? No, that's ridiculous, because the color in the terminology has nothing to do with race. That's exactly the same with blacklist and whitelist.
Now, if there was a racist underpinning there, I'd understand pushing for terminology changes. But there isn't, so stop finding new ways to be offended.
You know what I never understood? When someone says "I'm offended by that," society generally accepts that as valid. But if I say "I'm offended that you're offended." That's somehow invalid.
As if I cannot have an emotional reaction to being misunderstood or misinterpreted. People just assume bad faith and contrarian behavior instead of trying to figure out where the other person is coming from.
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You know what I never understood? When someone says "I'm offended by that," society generally accepts that as valid. But if I say "I'm offended that you're offended." That's somehow invalid.
As if I cannot have an emotional reaction to being misunderstood or misinterpreted. People just assume bad faith and contrarian behavior instead of trying to figure out where the other person is coming from.
And I think if we have a more open dialog, we'd fix so many more issues than tip-toeing around whatever we think could be a sensitive issue.
I like how Louis Rossmann puts it (quote taken from his colleague), "if you're gonna be the bitch, be the whole bitch." Which means if you're going to disagree/complain about something, be extremely clear about it. That way, the other party has a chance to fix whatever the problem is instead of one side assuming the other is a jerk or temperamental or something. Understanding comes through communication, and bluntness is usually better than beating around the bush.
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And I think if we have a more open dialog, we'd fix so many more issues than tip-toeing around whatever we think could be a sensitive issue.
I like how Louis Rossmann puts it (quote taken from his colleague), "if you're gonna be the bitch, be the whole bitch." Which means if you're going to disagree/complain about something, be extremely clear about it. That way, the other party has a chance to fix whatever the problem is instead of one side assuming the other is a jerk or temperamental or something. Understanding comes through communication, and bluntness is usually better than beating around the bush.
Absolutely! But, then again I'm neurodivergent so me not understanding the inefficiency in societal trends and communication is just... Life for me.
I think my entire lens through which I view reality is governed by efficiency. Which makes me blunt, to the point, no filter. But even those who know me well still took a long time to learn that I just say what I think, and there's no additional unspoken thoughts behind it, and had to work hard to stop projecting onto me.
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Absolutely! But, then again I'm neurodivergent so me not understanding the inefficiency in societal trends and communication is just... Life for me.
I think my entire lens through which I view reality is governed by efficiency. Which makes me blunt, to the point, no filter. But even those who know me well still took a long time to learn that I just say what I think, and there's no additional unspoken thoughts behind it, and had to work hard to stop projecting onto me.
Makes sense. I don't think I'm neurodivergent, or at least I haven't been tested nor have I had any significant reason to think I should. I just really appreciate clear communication, because there's a pretty good chance of misunderstandings otherwise.
Say what you think, and hopefully you're proven wrong about some negative assumptions. It's uncomfortable and hard, I get it, but I think living w/ uncertainty is even more uncomfortable.
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Makes sense. I don't think I'm neurodivergent, or at least I haven't been tested nor have I had any significant reason to think I should. I just really appreciate clear communication, because there's a pretty good chance of misunderstandings otherwise.
Say what you think, and hopefully you're proven wrong about some negative assumptions. It's uncomfortable and hard, I get it, but I think living w/ uncertainty is even more uncomfortable.
Yeah, I feel the same way. Like my friends thought I was extra confident and brave, but no I'm terrified just like everyone is. I just find the unknown and the uncertain way more terrifying and uncomfortable, so I'm always asking why why why till I figure out what's going on.
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Your feelings are yours to manage. You say why hurt someone when you can avoid it. I say why get hurt in the first place? Everyone has feelings about everything. No feeling is any more valid than any other feeling.
so you think other people should take responsibility for something they can't control, but you should have no responsibility for something you can control?
you can't stop yourself from feeling sad, but you can stop yourself from doing something that makes someone else sad
having no concern for the feelings of others is just really irrational and selfish imo
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so you think other people should take responsibility for something they can't control, but you should have no responsibility for something you can control?
you can't stop yourself from feeling sad, but you can stop yourself from doing something that makes someone else sad
having no concern for the feelings of others is just really irrational and selfish imo
Emotions aren't inherently positive or negative. It's what you do with the emotions that has actual moral substance.
Here, let's look at it this way.
I say something, and it made you sad. However, you know full well my intent was not to make you sad. Despite this, you use your sadness to guilt me about the thing. So now I feel sad that you are purposefully misinterpreting my meaning.
I am offended that you are offended. Explain to my why my feeling is invalid and yours is valid.
Anyone can feel bad about anything.
"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." -Eleanor Roosevelt
I'm not saying go around purposely making people sad. I'm saying don't make your sadness my issue.
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Emotions aren't inherently positive or negative. It's what you do with the emotions that has actual moral substance.
Here, let's look at it this way.
I say something, and it made you sad. However, you know full well my intent was not to make you sad. Despite this, you use your sadness to guilt me about the thing. So now I feel sad that you are purposefully misinterpreting my meaning.
I am offended that you are offended. Explain to my why my feeling is invalid and yours is valid.
Anyone can feel bad about anything.
"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." -Eleanor Roosevelt
I'm not saying go around purposely making people sad. I'm saying don't make your sadness my issue.
you're adding way too much into this. who said that someone would guilt you? normally when you make someone sad they don't say anything about it, they just feel a bit worse and continue with their lives
i'm just explaining to you, there's no way to rationalize your way out of this. you are in complete control over what you say, unless you have verbal tics. and people will understand if you accidentally say something offensive from a tic. do you not understand this? it's just about responsibility.
take some responsibility for what you say. that's all.
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I mean yeah, most systems with a reservoir are going to use some kind of feed tubes to get the ink to the print head, and tubes just clog; basically, they only have 2 states of existence and one of them is "clogged". If you do very regular printing, like a full color page at least twice a week, then they aren't going to clog, but very few people actually print that often.
Truth be told, I'm just done with inkjet printing all together. At this point I can't recommend anything but a laser printer, you tend to pay more up front, but then it actually works and it keeps working for a decade or more.
I see. Thanks for sharing. This will be good to know next time I'm looking for a printer.
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you're adding way too much into this. who said that someone would guilt you? normally when you make someone sad they don't say anything about it, they just feel a bit worse and continue with their lives
i'm just explaining to you, there's no way to rationalize your way out of this. you are in complete control over what you say, unless you have verbal tics. and people will understand if you accidentally say something offensive from a tic. do you not understand this? it's just about responsibility.
take some responsibility for what you say. that's all.
Yeah, clearly you've never seen a Karen.
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Yeah, clearly you've never seen a Karen.
not everyone you offend is like that. 90%+ of people you'll hurt with your words will say nothing to you about it, they"ll just feel like you're less trustworthy, less respectable, less professional and less considerate. if you want to take all of those disadvantage because... wait, why is it you don't want to be considerate of the feelings of others, again? you... don't want to learn new things? okay then.
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not everyone you offend is like that. 90%+ of people you'll hurt with your words will say nothing to you about it, they"ll just feel like you're less trustworthy, less respectable, less professional and less considerate. if you want to take all of those disadvantage because... wait, why is it you don't want to be considerate of the feelings of others, again? you... don't want to learn new things? okay then.
You mean not learn new things like purposefully missing my point? Yeah, big loss. Where are you getting this 90% stat from? Your feelings?
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You mean not learn new things like purposefully missing my point? Yeah, big loss. Where are you getting this 90% stat from? Your feelings?
i'm disabled and i volunteer with disabled people, and we talk about these kind of things quite often - people will talk about how a thoughtless comment on the internet started a spiral of despair. there's one guy in that group of 30ish who tries to tell people how their words affected him. everyone else, they keep it to themselves, for various reasons - sometimes they're scared that if they share how they were affected by a comment, the person who wrote it will intentionally try to hurt them more. some people are scared of being seen as a "karen", some just don't want to bother people.
we all understand that, most of the time, people aren't trying to upset us. they're just being a bit thoughtless. i totally understand that it seems like an arbitrary imposition, but it's really not that hard to just be a bit more considerate of others.
if you think a word you like to say is more important than being considerate of others, then you keep doing whatever you want. but stop lying to yourself, your actions can hurt people, and blaming people for being hurt by your actions is karen behavior.
