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Baldur's Gate 3 and Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 show that the future of RPGs is in games way more ambitious, weird and unexpected than anything Bethesda and Bioware have to offer

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  • lennnny@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

    If I were in your shoes...

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    The hours I spent on that FUCKING DICE GAME

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      I wish there were more new sci-fi RPGs of that quality.

      I do hear CP2077 is good now and I keep meaning to play it.

      TBH I'll probably end up enjoying Starfield once I get around to trying it as well.

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      Take a look at Exodus.

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        I've had cyberpunk since launch and the only thing that has improved is stability. The game is still a hodgepodge of half baked RPG systems, most of which aren't even necessary to interact with. No amount of polish can change the fact that it's a turd underneath.

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        I can tell you haven't booted the game up recently because they completely redid the perk system and cyberware not too long ago.

        CDPR has been atoning for the sin that was their failed launch for years. In my opinion, the game is a good game now.

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          Could somebody please explain fo me how either of these two aggressively cliche and generic games are in any way "ambitious, weird, and unexpected"?

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          • yungonions@lemmy.worldY [email protected]

            If you're even remotely interested in Warhammer 40k, the Rogue Trader CRPG is excellent

            https://store.steampowered.com/app/2186680/Warhammer_40000_Rogue_Trader/

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            Rogue Trader is actually good, but people who eat up medieval fantasy slop like BG3 will probably hate it.

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              It’s funny and sad knowing that Bethesda once were the company making weird and ambitious RPGs.

              Morrowind is one of the weirdest and most ambitious games of that era.

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              I find it bizarre that people think Starfield isn't "weird and ambitious". Starfield is absolutely weird and ambitious, that's why people didn't like it, it tried to do something new and that something new turned out to not be fun.

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                Skyrim wasn't "weird" by any definition I'd use. More like bland.

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                We're talking about an article that considers Baldur's Gate 3 to be weird and ambitious. Words don't have meanings anymore.

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                  I wish there were more new sci-fi RPGs of that quality.

                  I do hear CP2077 is good now and I keep meaning to play it.

                  TBH I'll probably end up enjoying Starfield once I get around to trying it as well.

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                  The problem is that gamers hate anytging that isn't generic medieval fantasy.

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                    Its mostly just that I want a Morrowind/Oblivion/Skyrim with a sci-fi setting. A solid story, lots of side-quests, and a dynamic world that reacts to the player. I'd probably enjoy a modern metropolitan criminal setting as well for an RPG like GTA's settings but Elder-Scrolls/3D-Fallout gameplay but you never see that at all.

                    Space is cool though.

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                    I don't believe you. That game exists, it's called Starfield, and it failed specifically because of its sci-fi setting and for no other reason.

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                    • somethingburger@jlai.luS [email protected]

                      Yes! BG3 and KC2 devs made amazing games but for some reason decided to have them take place in the most generic, boring medieval/fantasy setting.

                      I want a pirate RPG, or sci-fi, heck even a hardcore Mario CRPG.

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                      It's BECAUSE of the generic, boring medieval fantasy settings that they were successful.

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                        shut your whore mouth about faerun

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                        Faerun is garbage. Aggressively bad even for a medieval fantasy settings. No game set in Faerun can be good.

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                          Should I buy Baldurs Gate 3, its extremely expensive still.

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                          I will always recommend the game. But holding to a budget is not important.

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                            Faerun is garbage. Aggressively bad even for a medieval fantasy settings. No game set in Faerun can be good.

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                            literally the best crpg games have been set in faerun

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                              literally the best crpg games have been set in faerun

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                              No they haven't. Because they're set in Faerun.

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                                Could somebody please explain fo me how either of these two aggressively cliche and generic games are in any way "ambitious, weird, and unexpected"?

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                                List some RPGs that are better and lets discuss.

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                                  Could somebody please explain fo me how either of these two aggressively cliche and generic games are in any way "ambitious, weird, and unexpected"?

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                                  Are you serious? Do you need help understanding the definitions of ambitious, weird, and unexpected?

                                  Do you need a run down of all generic clones of games bioware and bethesda have released in recent times?

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                                    I don't believe you. That game exists, it's called Starfield, and it failed specifically because of its sci-fi setting and for no other reason.

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                                    It failed because it was boring.

                                    It famously had people saying "once you get past the first 12 hours, it gets good" it had nothing to do with the setting. The sci-fi setting was literally what drew people to play it in the first place....

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                                      It's BECAUSE of the generic, boring medieval fantasy settings that they were successful.

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                                      You are all over this thread. We get it, you dont like medievil fantasy.... clearly not a popular opinion.

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                                        Is it insanely good, like Factorio level polish, or was it just hyped due to recency bias?

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                                        70% good, 30% hype

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                                          Are you serious? Do you need help understanding the definitions of ambitious, weird, and unexpected?

                                          Do you need a run down of all generic clones of games bioware and bethesda have released in recent times?

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                                          They are literally sequels. 2 and 3. That removes any chance of them being unexpected now doesn't it you dunce.

                                          Ambitious, sure; if your definition of ambitious is delivering a complete game at release.

                                          Weird? If you think these games are weird I'll absolutely punish your eyeballs with just some stuff on steam that will leave these two games looking absolutely mainstream.

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