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Tinder-alternatives for the Fediverse

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  • C [email protected]

    Then you’d need some organization with resources to store this data? You’d still need to trust someone to do this correctly.

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    Oh, I was more thinking in the context of a centralized service, although technically it should be possible to do this in a federated manner too. I don't think the resources would be an issue, but the liability of holding this data would be. I don't know how that works on sites that currently do this though.

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    • P [email protected]

      I actually think observing your actual behaviour would be a better more honest way of matching.
      And technically it's all public info so it's not technically a privacy issue; they'd get it over activitypub the same as all fediverse platforms already do.

      But it feels wrong to do.

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      It would be, if it were comprehensive and applicable to match making, but I don't think for most people that can be gleaned from fedi. Most people only lurk, few even directly follow communities, and the content people do interact with likely does not represent them well unless they put themselves out there like that.

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        It would be, if it were comprehensive and applicable to match making, but I don't think for most people that can be gleaned from fedi. Most people only lurk, few even directly follow communities, and the content people do interact with likely does not represent them well unless they put themselves out there like that.

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        Well put.

        I guess I also don't really know the average users behavior, or more specifically typical fedi behavior of users who would use a matchmaking service.

        I'm just highly skeptical of compatibility quizzes, it feels like there must be a better solution.

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        • e8d79@discuss.tchncs.deE [email protected]

          I don't think control features help much when one of the most basic question that you can ask is "What is your gender and who would you like to date?". As I have already outlined in another comment in this thread, this information has to be shared with the federated network and is already enough to get people into serious trouble should it get into the wrong hands.

          Alternatively think about it this way. Would you hand over this kind of information to a total stranger? Would you take on the responsibility of handling data that could literally kill someone if you make a mistake?

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          How about another type of control: by default your profile is not federated. Then you manually select the instances you trust. And your data getcs shared only with those. Dating usually is kind of local anyway. If i live in australiay I'm likely not interested in matches from the UK. So instances could already serve as some pre-selection based on your region and possibly community type.

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            Even if you pay they have no incentive to get you to stop paying (i.e. find a partner).

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            If anything it's the opposite. They want user retention so they have an incentive to show you people that won't work long term.

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            • D [email protected]

              Dating is a numbers game, so ya gotta go where your preferences are.

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              i have a preference for big booty goth latinas, where do i go for that??

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              • sp3ctre@feddit.orgS [email protected]

                Hey there!

                Last year, I fell into the Fediverse-rabbithole and I really like it so far. We already have alternatives for Twitter/X, Facebook, Instagram, Reddit and so on.

                But today I realized, there actually isn't an alternative for tinder. But I think there could be a huge demand for it.
                This could also motivate people to change platforms, since no one wants to buy tinder premium for a lot of money.

                But I think I'm maybe not the first one coming up with this idea. What do you think about this?

                ~ sp3ctre

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                There's nowhere near a reasonable number of users on Fediverse to sustain a geo-local dating app. Tinder already has to rate-limit matches so people don't swipe through their entire dating pool in one day.

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                • sp3ctre@feddit.orgS [email protected]

                  Hey there!

                  Last year, I fell into the Fediverse-rabbithole and I really like it so far. We already have alternatives for Twitter/X, Facebook, Instagram, Reddit and so on.

                  But today I realized, there actually isn't an alternative for tinder. But I think there could be a huge demand for it.
                  This could also motivate people to change platforms, since no one wants to buy tinder premium for a lot of money.

                  But I think I'm maybe not the first one coming up with this idea. What do you think about this?

                  ~ sp3ctre

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                  If I was goodlooking or a celeb, tiktok would be op, Druski was talking about how it is for him, and the algorithim is basically constantly showing him ppls hes interested in, and since he actually has the money and means to contact and meet them its been hella bad for his brain to know theirs always another options out there that tiktok can show him, that fits what he likes perfectly (more than he knows), because algorithim.

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                    How about another type of control: by default your profile is not federated. Then you manually select the instances you trust. And your data getcs shared only with those. Dating usually is kind of local anyway. If i live in australiay I'm likely not interested in matches from the UK. So instances could already serve as some pre-selection based on your region and possibly community type.

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                    I don't think you can offload these kind of decision to the user. Just think about how effective the various fishing and social engineering attacks are. No, a fediverse dating app would have to be secure by default. The only possibility I see for this is something that involves homomorphic encryption, an encryption method that allows you to operate on data without having to decrypt it first, but I know nothing about that topic so I could be completely wrong. This vague idea of a solution might be technically impossible after all.

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                    • lime@feddit.nuL [email protected]

                      from the images on the front page, i get the feeling the userbase is tiny

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                      I'm not sure if I posted this, but I figured out they have seeing 50k users, and 1:10 gender ratio - although that doesn't say how many are real people.

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                      • P [email protected]

                        What would the matching mechanism do?
                        Look at your fediverse activity and match people who like the same things as you?

                        Could be interesting but creepy

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                        Don't make it a scratch-built, stand-alone Fediverse server app.

                        Make it a third-party add-on for Hubzilla or (streams) or Forte that sources the profiles of channels that activate that add-on. I mean, you've gotta see the number of profile fields available on these three.

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