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US Says Will Retaliate If Poland Introduces Tax on Big Tech

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    Yeah let's see how that is going:
    https://blog.google/intl/de-de/feed/google-cloud-und-bsi-sichere-cloud-losungen-in-der-offentlichen-verwaltung/

    The "BSI" is the German Ministry for security and information security btw

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    What the fuuuuuck

    Corporate-owned/non-FOSS software is just mindrot at this point, in the sense that the vast populous apparently cannot fathom that there's another way than trusting big tech.

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      Isolationism.

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      for what purpose?

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        for what purpose?

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        Benefit Russia

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          for what purpose?

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          According to Yanis Varoufakis, to end the tade imbalances so that the US don't lose their production capabilities

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            Archive: https://archive.is/2025.03.10-195341/https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-03-10/us-says-will-retaliate-if-poland-introduces-tax-on-big-tech

            Poland will face consequences if it introduces a levy on large technology companies, the incoming US envoy to Warsaw warned on Monday, as the spat between the two allies escalated.

            The government seeks to present a model to collect taxes from the so-called Big Tech firms in the coming months, Digitization Minister Krzysztof Gawkowski was reported as saying by PAP newswire on Monday. Tom Rose, whom President Donald Trump appointed as US next ambassador in Poland, called the plan “not very smart” in a post on social media platform X.

            Rose said that the new tax would hurt the relations between the two countries and the US president would “reciprocate as well he should.”

            The response comes a day after Poland’s Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski clashed with Elon Musk on the X platform over Starlink satellite-internet system for Ukraine and was also accused by the US Secretary of State Marco Rubio of “making things up.”

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            Germany better march into Polandball (to defend it) before the Murikans do!!

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              According to Yanis Varoufakis, to end the tade imbalances so that the US don't lose their production capabilities

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              I saw that, but surely if you wanted to protect US industrial base you’d be much more targeted about it? Unless the point is to create uncertainty and devalue the dollar that way.

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                what is donald trump trying to achieve again? i don't get it

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                Defend their propaganda machine at all costs?

                Thems the basics.

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                  According to Yanis Varoufakis, to end the tade imbalances so that the US don't lose their production capabilities

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                  the low prices and high standard of living are due to the manufacturing being outsourced. i don't understand what the end goal of boosting production capabilities is

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                    I saw that, but surely if you wanted to protect US industrial base you’d be much more targeted about it? Unless the point is to create uncertainty and devalue the dollar that way.

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                    i think it's possible that they want to devalue the dollar. but this all defeats everything that distinguished life in the usa from other countries

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                      the low prices and high standard of living are due to the manufacturing being outsourced. i don't understand what the end goal of boosting production capabilities is

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                      i don't understand what the end goal of boosting production capabilities is

                      Wartime manufacturing capacity would be my guess. Probably an element of self sufficiency too.

                      Shipbuilding capacity is just a fraction of China's now for example. Same goes for electronics.

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                        what is donald trump trying to achieve again? i don't get it

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                        Protecting interests of American businesses, possibly ideological although bribery could be involved too. Trump has been consistent on tariffs for nearly 50 years so it’s safe to assume it’s one of his few core beliefs that’s not as easily affected by his other personality issues.

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                          i don't understand what the end goal of boosting production capabilities is

                          Wartime manufacturing capacity would be my guess. Probably an element of self sufficiency too.

                          Shipbuilding capacity is just a fraction of China's now for example. Same goes for electronics.

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                          why do you need self-sufficiency when you are the defense and economic leader of the global hegemony?

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                            Protecting interests of American businesses, possibly ideological although bribery could be involved too. Trump has been consistent on tariffs for nearly 50 years so it’s safe to assume it’s one of his few core beliefs that’s not as easily affected by his other personality issues.

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                            American Business is modelled on importing and outsourcing. I don't understand how this protects business interests

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                              why do you need self-sufficiency when you are the defense and economic leader of the global hegemony?

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                              To maintain that leadership.

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                                American Business is modelled on importing and outsourcing. I don't understand how this protects business interests

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                                Taxes make companies earn less money. Trump tries to dissuade Poland from taxing American companies using threat of tariffs. I’m not sure how to put it in easier terms.

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                                  what is donald trump trying to achieve again? i don't get it

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                                  It's OK. He doesn't get it either.

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                                    Taxes make companies earn less money. Trump tries to dissuade Poland from taxing American companies using threat of tariffs. I’m not sure how to put it in easier terms.

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                                    Tariffs also lose businesses money, not sure how to make it simpler

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                                      Tariffs also lose businesses money, not sure how to make it simpler

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                                      I need you to make it less simple because you’re glossing over the details. Walk me through how tariffs on polish sausages (or whatever product/industry you think is adequate) will affect American business. This is not a symmetrical relationship between US and Poland and we don’t trade as much as most think.

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                                        American Business is modelled on importing and outsourcing. I don't understand how this protects business interests

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                                        You’re right and this disregard for the old system is making me nervous. These moves are so economically unsound that I can only draw the conclusion that the old neo-liberal business interests are not a concern anymore. If America tanks its importing and outsourcing model, what will it be replaced with? I’m not confident there’s a plan here (other than isolation and destruction).

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                                          what is donald trump trying to achieve again? i don't get it

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                                          The political equivalent of grade school bullying. It even has the exact same consequences for your reputation, except now it's global instead of being limited to that school building.

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