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Android is now warning of Firefox sharing data

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    Found this notification this morning on my pixel 6.

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    So if Mozilla wants to monetize location data, what does this mean for all the custom ROMs that use Mozilla's location provider instead of Google's?

    This might mean that we would have no true free location provider left.

    Edit: just was thinking, what does this mean for Firefox forks that also use Mozilla's location service?

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      Found this notification this morning on my pixel 6.

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      Pot Calling Kettle... etc... 🤣

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        Even if this isn't entirely true, you know Google wouldn't pass up the opportunity to reduce Firefox market share to scare everyone back to Chrome.

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        There isn't to much to reduce. I don't think Google is scared or afraid by Firefox, like at all.

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          God damn why's the world so shit

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          This is the Bad Place

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            fennec vs ironfox opinions?

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            I like fennec because the name is cute.

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              Found this notification this morning on my pixel 6.

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              I don't use default firefox for this damn reason.. I hope that Mull Fork gets going soon.. I've been in refuge in IceRaven since that time..

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                Yeah I'm pretty sure Firefox won't ask for or use your location, unless a website wants it for some reason (which is almost never a good one).

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                and even then, for me at least, the dialog that pops up is broken and lot of times the "Allow" button literally does nothing

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                  Pot Calling Kettle... etc... 🤣

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                  I know, right, the fucking balls of Google to fucking say this

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                    I know, right, the fucking balls of Google to fucking say this

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                    Because they are legally obligated to mention it?

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                      So if Mozilla wants to monetize location data, what does this mean for all the custom ROMs that use Mozilla's location provider instead of Google's?

                      This might mean that we would have no true free location provider left.

                      Edit: just was thinking, what does this mean for Firefox forks that also use Mozilla's location service?

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                      wait, mozilla has a location provider?
                      maybe there is open street map, idk what's the difference between a map and a location provider

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                        Zen browser is great on desktop

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                        Zen, at least from the few times that I've tried it, also has some major issues that I personally find to be deal-breakers. Like forgetting tabs in a window that has just been closed. If you accidentally close a window that you're working, without quitting the browser, you lose everything in it. As someone who is prone to doing that when closing a tab, it's not ideal.

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                          As of the latest Chrome update on PC, they have dropped support for uBlock. You can still technically enable it, but they disabled it by default once you update.

                          That got me back to Firefox with breakneck speed.

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                          Frankly speaking, calling out Google and Chrome, then moving to Firefox while Mozilla have been doing it's best Google impression for years now is not that great of a plan.

                          I wonder how long Firefox will be ok with all that, since Mozilla bought that advertisement business a while ago.

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                            Pot Calling Kettle... etc... 🤣

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                            This is not at all a pot kettle situation, there is no reason to warn about Firefox.

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                              Even if this isn't entirely true, you know Google wouldn't pass up the opportunity to reduce Firefox market share to scare everyone back to Chrome.

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                              There's no need to reduce Firefox marketshare. Most people don't even consider using anything else than whatever is default in their device.

                              Also, it's not a Google scare tactic or a flex. Every application on the Play Store must disclose the general outlines of their data policy, including the sharing of data. Lying with those checkbox is not a good idea but they are completely informative and put there by the publishing party, so the people responsible for publishing Firefox on mobile just updated these, and this is what is shown when an app publisher say their app is sharing data with third parties.

                              tl;dr: it's very likely that not a single soul at Google even looked at this, as this is just the regular behavior of the Play Store with apps that changes their data policy or indicate sharing user data with third parties.

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                                Found this notification this morning on my pixel 6.

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                                That's a regular notification, which would happen for any application whose data policy is changed on the Play Store page. These policy are as declared by the app publisher. This would be the same for any application that didn't check that "sharing data with third party" box earlier, then checked it later on.

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                                  Even if this isn't entirely true, you know Google wouldn't pass up the opportunity to reduce Firefox market share to scare everyone back to Chrome.

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                                  Lol if Google really wanted to kill FF they would just stop paying them half a billion a year.

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                                    wait, mozilla has a location provider?
                                    maybe there is open street map, idk what's the difference between a map and a location provider

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                                    My (probably incomplete) understanding is: phones have a GNSS chip (such as GPS, Galileo, or Glonass), but getting location from that takes a long time and a lot of battery. So they estimate location based on other information such as what cell tower they are connected to and the list of available wi-fi networks. This requires a database with all that info, which Google built through its Street View cars.

                                    So the location provider is a service to which your phone sends all the info it has and which replies with an estimate of your location; which means it handles a lot of sensitive data.

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                                      So if Mozilla wants to monetize location data, what does this mean for all the custom ROMs that use Mozilla's location provider instead of Google's?

                                      This might mean that we would have no true free location provider left.

                                      Edit: just was thinking, what does this mean for Firefox forks that also use Mozilla's location service?

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                                      Fork it, split it off, share it.

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                                        I don't use default firefox for this damn reason.. I hope that Mull Fork gets going soon.. I've been in refuge in IceRaven since that time..

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                                        Ironfox?

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                                          the thing about degoogled OS is lack of SafetyNet support and it is important for banking apps.

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                                          FWIW, banking apps work fine on GrapheneOS.

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