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New survey suggests the vast majority of iPhone and Samsung Galaxy users find AI useless – and I’m not surprised

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    A survey of more than 2,000 smartphone users by second-hand smartphone marketplace SellCell found that 73% of iPhone users and a whopping 87% of Samsung Galaxy users felt that AI adds little to no value to their smartphone experience.

    SellCell only surveyed users with an AI-enabled phone – thats an iPhone 15 Pro or newer or a Galaxy S22 or newer. The survey doesn’t give an exact sample size, but more than 1,000 iPhone users and more than 1,000 Galaxy users were involved.

    Further findings show that most users of either platform would not pay for an AI subscription: 86.5% of iPhone users and 94.5% of Galaxy users would refuse to pay for continued access to AI features.

    From the data listed so far, it seems that people just aren’t using AI. In the case of both iPhone and Galaxy users about two-fifths of those surveyed have tried AI features – 41.6% for iPhone and 46.9% for Galaxy.

    So, that’s a majority of users not even bothering with AI in the first place and a general disinterest in AI features from the user base overall, despite both Apple and Samsung making such a big deal out of AI.

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    The consumer-side AI that a handful of multi-billion-dollar companies keep peddling to us is just a way for them to attempt to justify AI to us. Otherwise, it consumes MASSIVE amounts of our energy capacities and is primarily being used in ways that harm us.

    And, of course, there's nothing they direct at us that isn't ultimately (and solely) for their benefit--our every use of their AI helps train their models, and eventually it will simply be groups of billionaires competing against one another to form the most powerful model that allows them to dominate us and their competitors.

    As long as this technology remains determined by those whose entire existence is organized around domination, it will be a sum harm to all of us. We'd have to free it from their grips to make it meaningful in our daily lives.

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      And what exactly is the difference between researching shit sources on plain internet and getting the same shit via an AI, except manually it takes 6 hours and with AI it takes 2 minutes?

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      I think the fact someone would need to explain this to you makes it pointless to try and explain it to you. I can't tell whether you're honestly asking a question or just searching for a debate to attempt to justify your viewpoint.

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      • O [email protected]

        People here like to shit on AI, but it has its use cases. It's nice that I can search for "horse" in Google Photos and get back all pictures of horses and it is also really great for creating small scripts. I, however, do not need a LLM chatbot on my phone and I really don't want it everywhere in every fucking app with a subscription model.

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        Most of the identification of things like 'horses' falls in line with the identification of things like 'crosswalks' and 'motorcycles'--in other words, the majority of the words associated with particular images in Google maps comes from people like us filling out Captcha, not from AI.

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        • O [email protected]

          That's so beautifully illustrative of what the LLM is actually doing behind the curtain! What a mess.

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          Yeah, it wonks the tokens up.

          I actually really like machine learning. It's been a fun field to follow and play around with for the past decade or so. It's the corpo-facist BS that's completely tainted it.

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          • N [email protected]

            I’m a software engineer and GitHub Copilot as an AI pair programmer has vastly improved my productivity. Also, I use ChatGPT extensively to help with miscellaneous stuff. Apart from these two, I don’t really find other AI implementations useful.

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            I’m a software engineer and GitHub Copilot as an AI pair programmer has vastly improved my productivity

            lol

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            • P [email protected]

              It is absolutely useless for everyday simple tasks I find.

              Who the fuck needs AI to SUMMARIZE an EMAIL, GOOGLE?

              IT'S FIVE LINES

              Get out of my face Gemini!

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              Who the fuck needs AI to SUMMARIZE an EMAIL, GOOGLE?

              The executives who don't do any real work, pretend they do (chiefly to themselves), and make ALL of the purchasing decisions despite again not doing any real work.

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              • O [email protected]

                Out of curiosity, what does AI do on a TV, other than voice recognition?

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                #210

                Steal more data

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                • M [email protected]

                  Definitely is. It's identical to the fear of immigrants. Like they just recycled the same articles. It's manufactured outrage. It'll either work or it doesn't. We'll find out. Not a big deal either way. Getting my information on this from media created by non tech literature journalists (who feel most threatened by AI) isn't a great move. It's like watching Fox News to stay on top of the latest immigration problems.

                  Take any articles on AI and put "immigrants" into the headline. It's weird how it's all the same crap. "They're taking our jobs" "they threaten our way of life" "society can't handle the influx of this thing".

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                  can we not compare the media’s complicity in the dehumanization of a group of people currently being targeted by fascist regimes to articles about whether a certain technology is useful or not

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                    Out of curiosity, what does AI do on a TV, other than voice recognition?

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                    Sometimes it adds unnecessary things like movie plots or cover for the program on a channel

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                    • A [email protected]

                      can we not compare the media’s complicity in the dehumanization of a group of people currently being targeted by fascist regimes to articles about whether a certain technology is useful or not

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                      Not being critical of the way media spreads propaganda in any form is what allows it to be used to dehumanize in the first place.

                      It's not a good idea to wait until the house is on fire to install the batteries in the fire alarm

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                      • sixtyforce@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                        I guess there's not much non English internet to scrape? I'm always surprised how few social media platforms exist outside of the USA. I went looking because I was curious what discourse online would look like without any Americans talking, and the answer was basically "there aren't any" outside of shit like 2ch.

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                        There are definitely non american social media platforms and groups and stuff, I'm guessing the same thing keeping you from knowing about them is keeping other americans from knowing about them

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                        • 9 [email protected]

                          I hate that i can no longer trust what comes out of my phone camera to be an accurate representation of reality. I turn off all the AI enhancement stuff but who knows what kind of fuckery is baked into the firmware.

                          NO, i dont want fake AI depth of field. NO, i do not want fake AI "makeup" fixing my ugly face. NO, i do not want AI deleting tourists in the background of my picture of the eiffel tower.

                          NO, i do not want AI curating my memories and reality. Sure, my vacation photos have shitty lighting and bad composition. But they are MY photos and MY memories of something i experienced personally. AI should not be "fixing" that for me

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                          Is there a black mirror episode for that? A technology, that automatically edits your memories to be inaccurate, but "better".

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                          • kspatlas@sopuli.xyzK [email protected]

                            There are definitely non american social media platforms and groups and stuff, I'm guessing the same thing keeping you from knowing about them is keeping other americans from knowing about them

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                            Maybe but idk what you mean.

                            I could however use a list if you felt like making one for some rando online.

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                            • clonedhuman@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                              I think the fact someone would need to explain this to you makes it pointless to try and explain it to you. I can't tell whether you're honestly asking a question or just searching for a debate to attempt to justify your viewpoint.

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                              You're implicating, there are trusted sources, I am saying, there are no trusted sources whatsoever, and you should equally doubt any source. So, who's the one not understanding some principle?

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                                I agree it is a tool, and they should be taught how to use it properly, but I disagree that is like a pen or a ruler. It's more like a GPS or Roomba. Yes, they are tools that can make your life easier, but it's better to learn how to read a map and operate a vacuum or a broom than to be taught to rely on the tool doing the hard work for you.

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                                You are sincerely advocating for teaching how to read a physical map? When will you ever need that ever, without a Zombie apocalypse?

                                It might be good to teach them this skill additionally, for the sake of brain development. But we should stay in reality and not replace real tools with obsolete ones in education, because children should be prepared for the real world and not for some world, that does not exist (anymore).

                                Same reason, why I find it ridiculous, how much children are cushioned to the brim and are denied to see the real world for 17 years and ~355 days, in the USA system. As soon as they are 18, they start to see the real world and they are not at all prepared for this surprise.

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                                  You are sincerely advocating for teaching how to read a physical map? When will you ever need that ever, without a Zombie apocalypse?

                                  It might be good to teach them this skill additionally, for the sake of brain development. But we should stay in reality and not replace real tools with obsolete ones in education, because children should be prepared for the real world and not for some world, that does not exist (anymore).

                                  Same reason, why I find it ridiculous, how much children are cushioned to the brim and are denied to see the real world for 17 years and ~355 days, in the USA system. As soon as they are 18, they start to see the real world and they are not at all prepared for this surprise.

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                                  You are sincerely advocating for teaching how to read a physical map? When will you ever need that ever, without a Zombie apocalypse?

                                  I strongly advocate it, it's a basic skill. Like simple math, reading and writing, being able to balance a budget, cooking, etc, being able to read a map is a necessary basic skill.

                                  Maps aren't obsolete. GPS literally works off of the existence maps. Trying to claim maps are obsolete is like saying that cooking food at home is obsolete because you can order delivery.

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                                    I hate that i can no longer trust what comes out of my phone camera to be an accurate representation of reality. I turn off all the AI enhancement stuff but who knows what kind of fuckery is baked into the firmware.

                                    NO, i dont want fake AI depth of field. NO, i do not want fake AI "makeup" fixing my ugly face. NO, i do not want AI deleting tourists in the background of my picture of the eiffel tower.

                                    NO, i do not want AI curating my memories and reality. Sure, my vacation photos have shitty lighting and bad composition. But they are MY photos and MY memories of something i experienced personally. AI should not be "fixing" that for me

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                                    classic techbro overhype

                                    Add new feature into everything without seperating and offering choice to opt out of it

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                                    • nuko147@lemm.eeN [email protected]

                                      This is what happens when companies prioritize hype over privacy and try to monetize every innovation. Why pay €1,500 for a phone only to have basic AI features? AI should solve real problems, not be a cash grab.

                                      Imagine if AI actually worked for users:

                                      • Show me all settings to block data sharing and maximize privacy.
                                      • Explain how you optimized my battery last week and how much time it saved.
                                      • Automatically silence spam calls without selling my data to third parties.
                                      • Detect and block apps that secretly drain data or access my microphone.
                                      • Automatically organize my photos by topic without uploading them to the cloud.
                                      • Make everything i could do with TASKER with only just saying it in plain words.
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                                      How could you ensure AI to privately sort your pictures, if the requests to analyze your sensitive imagery need to be made on a server? (that based its knowledge of disrespecting others copyright anyway, lol)

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                                        How could you ensure AI to privately sort your pictures, if the requests to analyze your sensitive imagery need to be made on a server? (that based its knowledge of disrespecting others copyright anyway, lol)

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                                        Why it must connect to a server to do it? Why can not offline? Deepseek showed us that it is possible. The companies want everyone to think that AI only works online. For example AI image enhancements in my mid range Samsung phone work offline.

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                                        • nuko147@lemm.eeN [email protected]

                                          Why it must connect to a server to do it? Why can not offline? Deepseek showed us that it is possible. The companies want everyone to think that AI only works online. For example AI image enhancements in my mid range Samsung phone work offline.

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                                          oh my bad, sorry im not well versed.

                                          Thats why I asked 😛

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