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  • C [email protected]

    Who is buying all these Teslas that Tesla owners are all selling because nobody wants a Tesla?

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    Nobody which is why the used market on them is crashing.

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      I feel bad for Nikola Tesla having his name associated with all this nonsense. Not even death let him escape from rich assholes taking credit for the work of others.

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      His legacy can live on with Dr Parkinstein. (Parker Edmondson)

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        The GMC Hummer EV Pickup Truck has entered the chat.

        205-kWh capacity battery [three times the size in a crossover], still gets only 275 miles [2023 version].

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        GMC Hummer EV Pickup Truck

        ...yeah, we are a very dumb species and it's good that we're going to go extinct in WW3.

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          Elon is getting slapped by the invisible hand.

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          fun fact: the people who originally coined the phrase 'invisible hand of the market' called it 'the invisible hand of providence' which basically means 'gods inscrutable will'. capitalism-at least market capitalism-is literally a religion.

          and its god is smiting his favorite special boy. so sad.

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          • heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

            if Nikola Tesla weren't a eugenicist i'd agree with you

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            it was the turn of the 20th century; everybody was a eugenicist. that's why we say 'people from the past sucked'.

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              We did pay for it.

              We're still giving Elon $80 million a day.

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              im in favor of any company these fuckers were on the board of or were allowed to hold substantial shares of being nationalized as punishment, if we don't end up with some form of communism or blasted wastelands after all this. The capital class needs to be shown consequences, and if we don't get guillotines, they need to at least be forced to watch us sautee their balls.

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                Your argument that 5 years ago he was just another rich person is utter bullshit. I remember him a decade ago being legit insane.

                Again, everyone just wants to cry wolf now that has been supporting him

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                I can guarantee you that 95% of car owners don't know the name of the CEO of their car company. Most people who bought Teslas years ago didn't know or care who Elon Musk is.

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                  It should be a part of NASA

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                  Honestly I'm surprised Elon hasn't killed the SLS and given SpaceX that contract; it's one of the few things that would both benefit him and increase the efficiency of the government. He's probably scared of Boeing suiciding him.

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                  • corno@lemm.eeC [email protected]

                    The customer service part... 😂

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                    Our team will handle all the paperwork and finer details of filing insurance claims and police reports to provide you a smooth transition of ownership and plausible deniability.

                    That should be higher up on the page, since that'd be the primary value of that service.

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                      it was the turn of the 20th century; everybody was a eugenicist. that's why we say 'people from the past sucked'.

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                      Imagine disregarding the entire domain of Tesla's work - changing the entire world as we know it with his research and innovations - and the comment they need to make for online points is some virtue-oriented pat-me-on-the-back-im-ethical blorp about random social norms of the time. lol but cry.

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                        Imagine disregarding the entire domain of Tesla's work - changing the entire world as we know it with his research and innovations - and the comment they need to make for online points is some virtue-oriented pat-me-on-the-back-im-ethical blorp about random social norms of the time. lol but cry.

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                        yeah, dude was so good at electrical shit I literally cannot comprehend how he got to some of his ideas from where he was.

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                          Saw a Tesla today that someone stuck an old Rover badge on, cracked me up

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                            I shamefully admit I almost pulled the trigger on a Tesla Model S Plaid back in 2021 or 2022. Flush with a shit ton of cash, but fortunately I was reading reports of production build quality issues, many recalls, and ultimately pulled back my deposit.

                            Looking back at it. The one decision I have no regrets on.

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                            That's the part I never understood. Even if you weren't a Musk fan boy and before Musk showed his true colors, Telsa has always, ALWAYS been shit quality. I remember back in 2015, or so, there was a video of someone finally getting their Telsa and it had a massive crack running the length of the driver side A-pillar, yet they just ignored it.

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                              I feel bad for Nikola Tesla having his name associated with all this nonsense. Not even death let him escape from rich assholes taking credit for the work of others.

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                              If it makes you feel any better his first name has fared just as poorly in terms of automakers lmao

                              https://www.reuters.com/legal/convicted-nikola-founder-milton-owes-electric-truck-maker-168-million-judge-2024-09-10/

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                                I disagree on it mattering, and there are plenty of correlations including executives with histories across the auto industry. These companies aren’t as nimble or efficient as their branding suggests - they’ve operated with the same tactics for decades and the holocaust was not that long ago. Id argue the only thing that’s changed is corporate rebranding & propaganda because a new image was profitable, not because they magically became altruistic. Companies that escaped their problematic moments should not have escaped them - the fact that they did is itself problematic. ‘I’m sorry’ is not payment enough for profiteering off of genocide in my opinion. Well aware of how many companies are problematic, I just think we can do better.

                                Focusing on Elon for his actions right now is a great step and focus area tho!

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                                So, if the Volkswagen Group car brands all dissolved and the people in charge created a new company that'd be just fine? Why would we boycott a company for what happened 80 years ago? We can just build a wall around Germany then.

                                What exactly is problematic? The past has happened and it cannot be changed; how you deal with it is the only question, and the Germans in particular have dealt with it admirably. It only matters what they do with they're given. Nothing is static, especially not a company which is just a reflection of their owners and employees.

                                Would it make you or anyone happier if we drove in Skodas rather than Volkswagens?

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                                  I have one that’s nearly 7 years old, fully paid for and still works well. I hate having to own any car and environmentally, the best car is the one you already have. Getting an equivalent car at a reduced trade-in price would cost 20k and I would do it on principle if I could afford to.

                                  BMW and Mercedes both supported Nazi’s during the holocaust and I believe they should receive the same treatment but it’s been the better part of a century and they’re still here. I’d go so far as to argue that cars are just consumerized war vehicles that a civil society has limited use for given the potential benefits of mass transit.

                                  Oil companies bribed and lobbied against clean, efficient, exciting transit decades ago and were all poorer for it.

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                                  BMW and Mercedes both supported Nazi’s during the holocaust and I believe they should receive the same treatment but it’s been the better part of a century and they’re still here

                                  If people knew what the Nazis were planning to do back then, they might have boycotted BMW and Mercedes too, strangling them in the crib. Americans know what Nazis are; they were literally our biggest enemy and our greatest military victory, and the vast majority of Americans oppose Nazis. I think the only hesitation seems to be that people either don't believe Elon actually is a Nazi, or that they think he's just "TrOlLiNg ThE LiBs!!!11".

                                  Getting an equivalent car at a reduced trade-in price would cost 20k and I would do it on principle if I could afford to.

                                  That really sucks, and I don't think you are a Nazi... but you're driving a BMW in 1933. You're not going to get any sympathy from people on the right side of history.

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                                    That's the part I never understood. Even if you weren't a Musk fan boy and before Musk showed his true colors, Telsa has always, ALWAYS been shit quality. I remember back in 2015, or so, there was a video of someone finally getting their Telsa and it had a massive crack running the length of the driver side A-pillar, yet they just ignored it.

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                                    I'll have to be honest and admit back when I was in high school or so, I was enthusiastic about electric cars and his seemed like some of the best. He was also opening up the charging standards so that there could be a mixed playing field. Back then, I was likely ready to dismiss small critiques as the retaliation of the fossil fuel industry.

                                    God I hate old me.

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                                      yeah, dude was so good at electrical shit I literally cannot comprehend how he got to some of his ideas from where he was.

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                                      I think he was just intuitively good at seeing what exactly is the portrayal of electricity and magnetism. A unique genius with a certain insight.

                                      I sometimes feel that there were many businesses concerns that grew around his early research and they were so successful that his newer research must have been a threat to that.

                                      Through all the mystery, half-truths, and frankly magical thinking people have with this man, it's really hard to know what he was up to in his final days of work, before he became a homeless bag-man. I somehow feel, without making any kind of declarative statement, that he was working on transmission of energy with longitudinal (vs transverse) waves, and discovering methods of conveying and extracting electrical potential from and through Earth.

                                      Inline Edit: To expand on the above paragraph: The Earth doesn't really "absorb" electrons like a pillow absorbing a ping pong ball. The energy in the negative charges that the Earth grounds must move in waves, therefore they're grounded but now the waves are bouncing around in the Earth; that energy still exists and may sum with other waves in an additive way. I believe, again without making a declarative statement, that Tesla recognized this and was pioneering research on how to transmit energy via, and gather momentum from those waves. There were successes transmitting energy and encoded information through Earth which can be repeated today with garbage dump salvage electronics. I believe he was discovering a few dangerous things as well: Harmonic discharges of electrical devices to ground could be captured (think telecommunications and military); and he was conducting novel elemental research on tapping Earth to harmonize and extract force(s) - what these things portended led to his complete scientific alienation.

                                      The word "free energy" always obliterates any form of rational discourse. But there was something to it in a way, but to clarify, not in a literal way. Not in the sense of violating fundamental laws of conservation, rather seeing the "other side of the coin" that if the Earth is effectively infinite Ground then it's also effectively an "infinite" source of power if harvested.

                                      I've never really "researched" the man directly but what I do know comes from quite a bit of my casual STEM self-study over decades.

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                                        Who will service those when Tesla goes out of business? Where will you get parts? Yeah, it's time to jump ship

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                                          I'll have to be honest and admit back when I was in high school or so, I was enthusiastic about electric cars and his seemed like some of the best. He was also opening up the charging standards so that there could be a mixed playing field. Back then, I was likely ready to dismiss small critiques as the retaliation of the fossil fuel industry.

                                          God I hate old me.

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                                          You're always supposed to hate or be embarrassed by the old you; that means you learned. It means growth. It's a good thing.

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