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Self-Driving Tesla Crashes into Wall Painted to Look Like a Road… Just Months Before Planned Robotaxi Launch

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    Teslas did this in the past. There was also the issue of thinking that the moon was a red light or something.

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    That's almost as bad as Sidewinder missiles locking onto the sun.

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      I disagree with this being a good test. Where on earth would you find a wall on a road with a fotorealistic continuation of the road printed on it? This would trick many human drivers. Self driving cars fail in many realistic situations that are a lot more concerning. This is just clickbait.

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      Where on earth would you find a wall on a road with a fotorealistic continuation of the road printed on it?

      Spoken like a man who has never relentlessly pursued a roadrunner, nor taken a wrong turn at Albuquerque.

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        This is a very good test, and the car should have past. That said though, I hate the click bait format where they show a stupidly obvious cartoonish wall, when the real wall is way more convincing.

        The Video:

        That sort of clickbait is 100% sure to get a "do not recommend channel" from me, I'm so sick of it. And it's sad when the video has such a good point.

        The Clickbait

        I can see it's kind of funny, but it's misleading.

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        Have you heard of DeArrow? https://dearrow.ajay.app/

        It's a browser extension that replaces clickbait thumbnails with good community sourced ones

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          This doesnt just affect teslas. This affects any car that uses AI assistance for driving.

          Except for, you know.. cars that don't solely rely on optical input and have LiDAR for example

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          Fair point. But it doesn't address the other things i said, really.

          But i suppose,based on already getting downvoted, that I've got a bad take, either that or people who are downvoting me dont understand i can hate tesla and elon, think their cars are shit and still see that tests like this can be nuanced. The attitude that paints with a broad brush is the type of attitude that got trump elected....

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          • kayleadfoot@fedia.ioK [email protected]

            Mark Rober just set up one of the most interesting self-driving tests of 2025, and he did it by imitating Looney Tunes. The former NASA engineer and current YouTube mad scientist recreated the classic gag where Wile E. Coyote paints a tunnel onto a wall to fool the Road Runner.

            Only this time, the test subject wasn’t a cartoon bird… it was a self-driving Tesla Model Y.

            The result? A full-speed, 40 MPH impact straight into the wall. Watch the video and tell us what you think!

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            Who was the idiot that removed LiDar to cut costs?

            /s

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              Who was the idiot that removed LiDar to cut costs?

              /s

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              Elon removed the radar. Tesla cars never had lidar. What an idiot Musk.

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                Fair point. But it doesn't address the other things i said, really.

                But i suppose,based on already getting downvoted, that I've got a bad take, either that or people who are downvoting me dont understand i can hate tesla and elon, think their cars are shit and still see that tests like this can be nuanced. The attitude that paints with a broad brush is the type of attitude that got trump elected....

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                No, it's just a bad take. Every other manufacturer of self driving vehicles (even partial self driving, like automatic braking) uses LiDAR because it solves a whole host of problems like this. Only Tesla doesn't, because Elon thinks he's a big brain genius. There have been plenty of real world accidents with less cartoonish circumstances involving Teslas that also would have been avoided if they just had LiDAR sensors. Mark just chose an especially flashy way to illustrate the problem. Sometimes flashy is the best way to get a point across.

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                  You think you're reliably going to notice this after a hundred miles of driving? (X) doubt.

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                  Dude.

                  You could at least look at what you're replying to before jumping in and going full outrage mode. I didn't even say anything about what I thought of the validity of that experiment.

                  Keep putting yourself forward to defend the poor, misjudged car company belonging to a crazy asshole.

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                    What's cool is that Teslas used to have radar sensors, at least, but Elon removed them from production to save money. Even if you have a car from back then, the software no longer uses them and they'll just physically unplug them the next time you have the car serviced, as it's just a drain on the battery at this point 🙃

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                    meanwhile our subaru has lidar for adaptive cruise control and emergency braking

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                    • paraphrand@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

                      I remember there being claims from him or his team about lidar being a dead end that would not scale as well as computer vision.

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                      I believe he claimed that since humans use their vision to drive that computer vision was more than enough.

                      I don’t know about you, but I also rely on sounds & feel when I drive. I also know that the human eye has evolved to detect motion, filter out extraneous information, and send just the important bits to the brain so that it doesn’t get overloaded with everything the eye sees. Computer vision is the exact opposite from that, having to process every bit of every image the camera sees.

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                      • maestro@fedia.ioM [email protected]

                        Have you heard of DeArrow? https://dearrow.ajay.app/

                        It's a browser extension that replaces clickbait thumbnails with good community sourced ones

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                        Thanks no I hadn't. Is that available as a Firefox extension. I do most of my browsing on desktop.

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                          Dude.

                          You could at least look at what you're replying to before jumping in and going full outrage mode. I didn't even say anything about what I thought of the validity of that experiment.

                          Keep putting yourself forward to defend the poor, misjudged car company belonging to a crazy asshole.

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                          👌👍

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                            Iirc they were using a combination of lidar and radar, but Elmo wanted to cut costs.

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                            Funny thing is, the price of lidar is dropping like a stone; they are projected to be sub-$200 per unit soon. The technical consensus seems to be settling in on 2 or 3 lidars per car plus optical sensors, and Chinese EV brands are starting to provide self driving in baseline models, with lidars as part of the standard package.

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                              I disagree with this being a good test. Where on earth would you find a wall on a road with a fotorealistic continuation of the road printed on it? This would trick many human drivers. Self driving cars fail in many realistic situations that are a lot more concerning. This is just clickbait.

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                              True, but Mark's video basically about comparing Tesla's Camera Sensors Vs Self Driving car with a Lidar Sensor.

                              They also simulated some real life scenarios which the car with Lidar sensors passed easily, while Tesla failed some of them.

                              So I guess Lidar sensors are superior compared to Teslas cameras.

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                                Thanks no I hadn't. Is that available as a Firefox extension. I do most of my browsing on desktop.

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                                Yes, but you could have just clicked the link to find that out

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                                  Yes, but you could have just clicked the link to find that out

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                                  Imagine being in the middle of a friendly conversation where you ask a question and the person says, "Why are you asking me?? Just google it."

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                                    Self driving is supposed to improve on humans, so there's that.

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                                    We're far from perfect, please don't get me wrong, but self driving IS already even if not better when compared with most drivers in many situations. It's a low bar.

                                    https://storage.googleapis.com/waymo-uploads/files/documents/safety/Comparison of Waymo and Human-Driven Vehicles at 25M miles.pdf

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                                      Mark Rober just set up one of the most interesting self-driving tests of 2025, and he did it by imitating Looney Tunes. The former NASA engineer and current YouTube mad scientist recreated the classic gag where Wile E. Coyote paints a tunnel onto a wall to fool the Road Runner.

                                      Only this time, the test subject wasn’t a cartoon bird… it was a self-driving Tesla Model Y.

                                      The result? A full-speed, 40 MPH impact straight into the wall. Watch the video and tell us what you think!

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                                      • N [email protected]

                                        What's cool is that Teslas used to have radar sensors, at least, but Elon removed them from production to save money. Even if you have a car from back then, the software no longer uses them and they'll just physically unplug them the next time you have the car serviced, as it's just a drain on the battery at this point 🙃

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                                        they’ll just physically unplug them the next time you have the car serviced

                                        So, (looks at watch), in an hour?

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                                          We're far from perfect, please don't get me wrong, but self driving IS already even if not better when compared with most drivers in many situations. It's a low bar.

                                          https://storage.googleapis.com/waymo-uploads/files/documents/safety/Comparison of Waymo and Human-Driven Vehicles at 25M miles.pdf

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                                          Humans include those who are drunk. Real annalisys relies on data that should exist but those who have it never seem to talk about it.

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