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Self-Driving Tesla Crashes into Wall Painted to Look Like a Road… Just Months Before Planned Robotaxi Launch

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  • Z [email protected]

    Human drivers also make automobiles one of the most dangerous ways to travel.

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    I think it's also reasonable to say a human dying because of their own actions is different than a human dying because a big corp cut costs on safety features in an entirely autonomous car where the human has no ability to stop what's happening. (You can control them in current teslas, but they're working on cars without human controls as well)

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      Elon removed the radar. Tesla cars never had lidar. What an idiot Musk.

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      Tesla had camera+radar+sonar, and that wasn't their own tech - they used mobileye EyeQ back then. When they switched to in house tech they gradually ditched the radar and sonar which made no sense to me. But at the time I saw their lead say in an interview that this is superior and I believed. not anymore.

      they said doing so cut costs but obviously lidar/radar/sonar only gets cheaper over time, let alone the extra r&d costs because a vision only system is much more difficult to develop.

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      • spankmonkey@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

        He also said the government doesn't use sql.

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        Bahaha, what kind of a bizarre statement is that?

        Was he trying to imply the government only uses spreadsheets and nosql DBs?

        Or did he think it was necessary to point out that your average government employee isn't writing their own SQL to grab data they need?

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        • B [email protected]

          Since most grownups aren't interested in safety, I just thought it would be even less for kids.
          All sales promotion stats show that car buyers basically don't care about safety features. Almost all significant safety features are there because of regulation.

          Edit:
          I can only laugh at the downvoters, you know nothing. It's been a well established fact that safety doesn't sell cars since the 50's.

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          Seems like a strange application of stats when, as you say, the regulated safety features - the important ones - need not come into a decision-making process and advertising them would be a waste of time.

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            This is a very good test, and the car should have past. That said though, I hate the click bait format where they show a stupidly obvious cartoonish wall, when the real wall is way more convincing.

            The Video:

            That sort of clickbait is 100% sure to get a "do not recommend channel" from me, I'm so sick of it. And it's sad when the video has such a good point.

            The Clickbait

            I can see it's kind of funny, but it's misleading.

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            Well if your thumbnail is not good enough and catchy people will not watch it. Which wont make the channel profitable. Which will cause it to not exist.

            I hope you know that usually youtubers will not even start making the video if they don’t have a killer thumbnail to it. Thats the platform.

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            • Z [email protected]

              Bahaha, what kind of a bizarre statement is that?

              Was he trying to imply the government only uses spreadsheets and nosql DBs?

              Or did he think it was necessary to point out that your average government employee isn't writing their own SQL to grab data they need?

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              Someone said something he didn't like so he blurted out the first ignorant thing that he thought of, as usual.

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              • K [email protected]

                Yikes, there’s a 25 around here that shows up as a 55 in Google Maps.

                Also a 55 that goes down to I think 35 for just a moment when it joins up with a side road. I wonder what a Tesla would do if it was following that data.

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                The same thing a Tesla always does: behave erratically and dangerously.

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                • K [email protected]

                  This is why it's fucking stupid Tesla removed Lidar sensors and relies on cameras only.

                  But also who would want a tesla, fuck em

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                  I was horrified when I learned that the autopilot relies entirely on cameras. Nope, nope, nope.

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                    This is why it's fucking stupid Tesla removed Lidar sensors and relies on cameras only.

                    But also who would want a tesla, fuck em

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                    They never had lidarr. They used to have radar and uss but they decided "vision" was good enough. This conveniently occurred when they had supply chain issues during covid.

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                    • S [email protected]

                      It wasn't because of phantom braking.
                      It was to cut costs.

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                      It was because covid interrupted supply chains. Same reason they removed lumbar support from passenger seats.

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                      • kayleadfoot@fedia.ioK [email protected]

                        Mark Rober just set up one of the most interesting self-driving tests of 2025, and he did it by imitating Looney Tunes. The former NASA engineer and current YouTube mad scientist recreated the classic gag where Wile E. Coyote paints a tunnel onto a wall to fool the Road Runner.

                        Only this time, the test subject wasn’t a cartoon bird… it was a self-driving Tesla Model Y.

                        The result? A full-speed, 40 MPH impact straight into the wall. Watch the video and tell us what you think!

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                        Apparently they keep getting tickets in China because they didn't bother to adjust the settings to accommodate Chinese roads and traffic laws. Result is Tesla is getting utterly crushed by BYD in their one major market that doesn't care about Elon's antics.

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                          It was removed because it was giving false positives. They should have upgraded it with lidar but decided to just remove it.

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                          It was removed because of supply chain issues.

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                            Wow you guys even lost the ability to do syntax. I guess it was only a matter of time.

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                            Not only can the right still not meme, it has apparently also lost all ability to recognize meme.

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                            • kayleadfoot@fedia.ioK [email protected]

                              Mark Rober just set up one of the most interesting self-driving tests of 2025, and he did it by imitating Looney Tunes. The former NASA engineer and current YouTube mad scientist recreated the classic gag where Wile E. Coyote paints a tunnel onto a wall to fool the Road Runner.

                              Only this time, the test subject wasn’t a cartoon bird… it was a self-driving Tesla Model Y.

                              The result? A full-speed, 40 MPH impact straight into the wall. Watch the video and tell us what you think!

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                              Don't want to rock the boat but apart from being a you tube money earner this doesn't prove or disprove anything. A lot of humans would be fooled by this also.

                              I am suspicious of the way the polystyrene wall broke in cartoon like shagged edges, almost like they were precut.

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                                Don't want to rock the boat but apart from being a you tube money earner this doesn't prove or disprove anything. A lot of humans would be fooled by this also.

                                I am suspicious of the way the polystyrene wall broke in cartoon like shagged edges, almost like they were precut.

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                                What would the wall being precut have to do with the car deciding to drive through it?

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                                  Don't want to rock the boat but apart from being a you tube money earner this doesn't prove or disprove anything. A lot of humans would be fooled by this also.

                                  I am suspicious of the way the polystyrene wall broke in cartoon like shagged edges, almost like they were precut.

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                                  The point of the test is to demonstrate that vision-only, which Tesla has adopted is inadequate. A car with lidar or radar would have been able to "see" that the car was approaching an obstacle without being fooled by the imagary.

                                  So yes, it seems a bit silly, but the underlying point is legitimate. If the software is fooled by this, then can you ever fully trust it? Especially when sensor systems exist that don't have this problem at all. Would you want to be a pedestrian in a crosswalk with this car bearing down on you in FSD?

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                                  • S [email protected]

                                    Still astounded people use anything other than the subscription section on YouTube.

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                                    That would require signing in and allowing tracking.

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                                    • kayleadfoot@fedia.ioK [email protected]

                                      Mark Rober just set up one of the most interesting self-driving tests of 2025, and he did it by imitating Looney Tunes. The former NASA engineer and current YouTube mad scientist recreated the classic gag where Wile E. Coyote paints a tunnel onto a wall to fool the Road Runner.

                                      Only this time, the test subject wasn’t a cartoon bird… it was a self-driving Tesla Model Y.

                                      The result? A full-speed, 40 MPH impact straight into the wall. Watch the video and tell us what you think!

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                                      Is this video being suppressed by the YouTube algorithm? I wonder if it's because of Tesla or Disney. Or maybe it's because of simulated child harm?

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                                        The actual wall is way more convincing though.

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                                        A camera will show it as being more convincing than it is. It would be way more obvious in real life when seen with two eyes. These kinds of murals are only convincing from one specific point.

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                                          What would the wall being precut have to do with the car deciding to drive through it?

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                                          Yes but the main point that has been shown is that putting a screen up with the exact copy of the road and surroundings behind the screen is a daft and dangerous idea. It would be a better test if they had put up a polystyrene tree in the middle of the road and then checked if the car stopped.

                                          I have never driven through a polystyrene wall with a picture of a road on it in 40 years because people just don't put those things up, they don't grow on roads etc etc.

                                          Great YT clip for entertainment though.

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