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Self-Driving Tesla Crashes into Wall Painted to Look Like a Road… Just Months Before Planned Robotaxi Launch

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  • Z [email protected]

    Human drivers also make automobiles one of the most dangerous ways to travel.

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    Human drivers also make automobiles one of the most dangerous ways to travel.

    Same goes for Teslas. Just that the human that's making them a dangerous way to travel is Elon Musk.

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      A camera will show it as being more convincing than it is. It would be way more obvious in real life when seen with two eyes. These kinds of murals are only convincing from one specific point.

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      That's true, but it's still way more understandable that a car without lidar would be fooled by it. And there is no way you would ever come into such a situation, whereas the image in the thumbnail, could actually happen. That's why it's so misleading, can people not see that?
      I absolutely hate Elon Musk and support boycott of Tesla and Starlink, but this is a bit too misleading even with that in mind.

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      • mentaledge@sopuli.xyzM [email protected]

        How is it misleading?

        The title asks "can you fool a self driving car" and the thumbnail illustrates a cartoon situation that immediately explains how they will attempt to do so in the video.

        The video then goes on to not only answer the question, but explore the technology involved in-depth.

        It MORE than delivers on the "clickbait".

        Thumbnails can't be subtle, they typically get viewed at a tiny size compared to the full video and that's why large high-contrast features work better than a random screencap from the video.

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        How is it misleading?

        You can't be serious? The clickbait image is not something that might actually possibly happen. The image in the video is.

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        • magnus919@lemmy.brandyapple.comM [email protected]

          I remember Elon foolishly saying his cars don’t need radar or lidar. Even software-disabling radar in cars that already had the hardware.

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          I mean his right, his cars don't need radar or lidar. They just drive into things.

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            It was removed because of supply chain issues.

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            That would make sense if they put it back after, but they didn't

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            • kayleadfoot@fedia.ioK [email protected]

              Mark Rober just set up one of the most interesting self-driving tests of 2025, and he did it by imitating Looney Tunes. The former NASA engineer and current YouTube mad scientist recreated the classic gag where Wile E. Coyote paints a tunnel onto a wall to fool the Road Runner.

              Only this time, the test subject wasn’t a cartoon bird… it was a self-driving Tesla Model Y.

              The result? A full-speed, 40 MPH impact straight into the wall. Watch the video and tell us what you think!

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              I am very glad that Elon and Trump have overreached and now Tesla is suffering. I hope Starlink is the next domino to fall.

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                I mean his right, his cars don't need radar or lidar. They just drive into things.

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                Yeah but the radar/lidar may allow them to drive into things quicker.

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                • B [email protected]

                  A camera will show it as being more convincing than it is. It would be way more obvious in real life when seen with two eyes. These kinds of murals are only convincing from one specific point.

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                  …and clearly this photo wasn’t the point. In fact, it looks like a straight road from one of the camera angles he chooses later, not afaict from the pov of the car

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                    I am very glad that Elon and Trump have overreached and now Tesla is suffering. I hope Starlink is the next domino to fall.

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                    Yup plus the European Union is making their alternative to launch in a year or 2

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                      Yup plus the European Union is making their alternative to launch in a year or 2

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                      Good.

                      I'm not rooting for America to fail, but I'm 100% rooting for Elon to fail.

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                      • kayleadfoot@fedia.ioK [email protected]

                        Mark Rober just set up one of the most interesting self-driving tests of 2025, and he did it by imitating Looney Tunes. The former NASA engineer and current YouTube mad scientist recreated the classic gag where Wile E. Coyote paints a tunnel onto a wall to fool the Road Runner.

                        Only this time, the test subject wasn’t a cartoon bird… it was a self-driving Tesla Model Y.

                        The result? A full-speed, 40 MPH impact straight into the wall. Watch the video and tell us what you think!

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                        Meep meep!

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                        • kayleadfoot@fedia.ioK [email protected]

                          Mark Rober just set up one of the most interesting self-driving tests of 2025, and he did it by imitating Looney Tunes. The former NASA engineer and current YouTube mad scientist recreated the classic gag where Wile E. Coyote paints a tunnel onto a wall to fool the Road Runner.

                          Only this time, the test subject wasn’t a cartoon bird… it was a self-driving Tesla Model Y.

                          The result? A full-speed, 40 MPH impact straight into the wall. Watch the video and tell us what you think!

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                          Make Elon test ride the first Tesla robotaxi and there's a chance the funniest thing of all time will happen.

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                            Apparently they keep getting tickets in China because they didn't bother to adjust the settings to accommodate Chinese roads and traffic laws. Result is Tesla is getting utterly crushed by BYD in their one major market that doesn't care about Elon's antics.

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                            Huh, now I’m mildly interested in the differences in traffic laws in China vs US vs Europe that lead to Teslas getting more tickets in China than elsewhere.

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                            • kayleadfoot@fedia.ioK [email protected]

                              Mark Rober just set up one of the most interesting self-driving tests of 2025, and he did it by imitating Looney Tunes. The former NASA engineer and current YouTube mad scientist recreated the classic gag where Wile E. Coyote paints a tunnel onto a wall to fool the Road Runner.

                              Only this time, the test subject wasn’t a cartoon bird… it was a self-driving Tesla Model Y.

                              The result? A full-speed, 40 MPH impact straight into the wall. Watch the video and tell us what you think!

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                              This is some amazing stuff! Buy $LAZR! 😁

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                              • kayleadfoot@fedia.ioK [email protected]

                                Mark Rober just set up one of the most interesting self-driving tests of 2025, and he did it by imitating Looney Tunes. The former NASA engineer and current YouTube mad scientist recreated the classic gag where Wile E. Coyote paints a tunnel onto a wall to fool the Road Runner.

                                Only this time, the test subject wasn’t a cartoon bird… it was a self-driving Tesla Model Y.

                                The result? A full-speed, 40 MPH impact straight into the wall. Watch the video and tell us what you think!

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                                Some cartoon shit

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                                • B [email protected]

                                  That's true, but it's still way more understandable that a car without lidar would be fooled by it. And there is no way you would ever come into such a situation, whereas the image in the thumbnail, could actually happen. That's why it's so misleading, can people not see that?
                                  I absolutely hate Elon Musk and support boycott of Tesla and Starlink, but this is a bit too misleading even with that in mind.

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                                  So, your comment got me thinking... surely, in a big country like the US of A, this mural must actually exist already, right?

                                  Of course it does. It is an art piece in Columbia, S.C: https://img.atlasobscura.com/90srIbBi-XX-H9u6i_RykKIinRXlpclCHtk-QPSHixk/rt:fit/w:1200/q:80/sm:1/scp:1/ar:1/aHR0cHM6Ly9hdGxh/cy1kZXYuczMuYW1h/em9uYXdzLmNvbS91/cGxvYWRzL3BsYWNl/X2ltYWdlcy85ZTUw/M2ZkZDAxZjVhN2Rm/NmVfOTIyNjQ4NjQ0/OF80YWVhNzFkZjY0/X3ouanBn.webp

                                  A full article about it: https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/tunnelvision

                                  How would Tesla FSD react to Tunnelvision, I wonder? How would Tesla FSD react to an overturned semi truck with a realistic depiction of a highway on it? JK, Tesla FSD crashes directly into overturned semis even without the image depiction issue.

                                  I don't think the test is misleading. It's puffed up for entertainment purposes, but in being puffed up, it draws attention to an important drawback of optical-only self-driving cars, which is otherwise a difficult and arcane topic to draw everyday people's attention to.

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                                    How is it misleading?

                                    You can't be serious? The clickbait image is not something that might actually possibly happen. The image in the video is.

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                                    That is a distinction without a difference.

                                    They are both images depicting a drivable path, on a flat surface.

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                                      I seem to recall that fElon prevented the self driving team from utilizing LIDAR for any part of the system, instead demanding that everything run off of optical input. Does anyone else remember the same?

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                                      Yes. He took too much inspiration from Stanford University’s “Stanley” winning the DARPA Grand Challenge in 2005. This was an early completion to build viable autonomous vehicles. Most of them looked like tanks covered in radar dishes but Stanford wound up taking home the gold with just an SUV with cameras on it.

                                      It was an impressive achievement in computer vision, and the LiDAR-encrusted vehicles wound up looking like over-complex dinosaurs. There’s a great documentary about it narrated by John Lithgow (who, throughout it, pronounces the word robot as “ro-butt”). Elon watched it, made up his mind, and like a moron, hasn’t changed it in 20 years. I’m almost Musk’s age so I know how the years speed up as we go on. He probably thinks about the Stanford win as something that happened relatively recently. Especially with his mind on - ahem - other things, he’s not keeping up with recent developments out in the real world.

                                      Rober just made Musk look like the absolute tool he is. And I’m a little worried that we may see people out there staging real world versions of this somehow with actual dangerous obstacles, not a cartoonish foam wall.

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                                      • J [email protected]

                                        Have you never heard of a mural before?

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                                        I have never seen a mural on a road depicting a road that is identical to the road that I am driving on. Hope that helps.

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                                          Doesn't address the point that humans would be equally deceived by this wall if they don't pay 100% attention.

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                                          With this paint job, in this environment? Maybe. Though IRL you would probably see it much clearer due to the lack of parallax effect on a 2D projection.

                                          But if we're talking e.g. about a dark-ish barrier at knee height, your brain does a much better job to quickly recognize it as obstacle. Whereas cameras without depth perception would fail completely.

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