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Used Tesla prices tumble as embarrassed owners look to sell

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  • jabjoe@feddit.ukJ [email protected]

    Don't know about that. Leaf has been pretty important as well.

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    Leaf's tech was a joke for a long time.

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      Leaf's tech was a joke for a long time.

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      Yes, because it was cheap.

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        It has been, but the leaf was very much a "second car" for a very long time. They had relatively short range, an air cooled battery, and as a result couldn't be charged particularly fast. The battery would also overheat if you tried to charge it multiple times.

        Tesla, on the water, had a water cooled battery pack, and could be fast charged multiple times per day, and much faster than other vehicles, meaning a road trip was actually possible.

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        The Leaf was cheap. It introduced many to EVs. They are super common third or fourth hand now. It was aimed at the other end of the market than the Tesla.

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        • P [email protected]

          Nah, quite the opposite. My point is that we have to live in the society we're in. You want to label one billionaire asshole as worse than the others just so you can feel smugly superior to people who are, for the most part, more leftist than the average and in the same working class bucket you presumably are. It doesn't help anyone.

          Shit on Musk, shit on Tesla. They deserve it. Don't shit on the people who should be your allies. It's counter productive.

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          Teslas are for the poor blue collar workin class folk, huh?

          Is that what you want to think of yourself as?

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          • eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.comE [email protected]

            It really is, I suspect the people replying to you own Teslas and are trying to go "N-no I gave money to him and I never knew he was an asshole for 30 years!"

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            look at the other reply from psi, trying to paint tesla owners as part of us poor workin class folk.

            Its fuckin nuttier than squirrel turds.

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            • jacksonlamb@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

              Take it from an old man, at a certain point you will grow beyond having to feel "embarassed" by your former self, because your ego won't be tied to it.

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              Old man here as well. I follow the doctrine of non-repudiation: I did a lot of stupid things when I was young. But I own them and don't hate my former self for doing them. Mind you, I didn't hurt anyone (except emotionally, and not intentionally) and wasn't a criminal. If that were different, maybe I'd have to process it differently.

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                Everytime I see our local cyber truck I hope someone vandalizes it.

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                • lustyargonianmana@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

                  https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/nikola-tesla-the-eugenicist-eliminating-undesirables-by-2100-130299355/

                  The year 2100 will see eugenics universally established. In past ages, the law governing the survival of the fittest roughly weeded out the less desirable strains. Then man’s new sense of pity began to interfere with the ruthless workings of nature. As a result, we continue to keep alive and to breed the unfit. The only method compatible with our notions of civilization and the race is to prevent the breeding of the unfit by sterilization and the deliberate guidance of the mating instinct. Several European countries and a number of states of the American Union sterilize the criminal and the insane. This is not sufficient. The trend of opinion among eugenists is that we must make marriage more difficult. Certainly no one who is not a desirable parent should be permitted to produce progeny. A century from now it will no more occur to a normal person to mate with a person eugenically unfit than to marry a habitual criminal.

                  Oof, that's a tough read.

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                  It was a common view, especially among progressives, from the late 1890s to the start of WW2. The temperance movement embraced eugenics, so did the family-planning movement, and through it, early feminism.

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                    I have read a number of comments from people with illnesses or other issues that are genetic, saying they don't want to pass their problems onto the next generation.

                    So, bizarrely enough, there is a certain amount of eugenics happening, it's just purely voluntary.

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                    It's the top-down nature of the eugenics movement that made it so morally repugnant. "We decide who's fit to have kids."

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                    • eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.comE [email protected]

                      Fuck every Tesla owner. Unironically, they knew what they bought.

                      Downvotes coming from Telsa owners who have buyer's remose for giving a Nazi money, i assume.

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                      Only now the chickens are coming home to roost and they wanna get out, not before though. When Elons stock was up they were happy to have the car.

                      This is why we see vandalism as well on these

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                        Old man here as well. I follow the doctrine of non-repudiation: I did a lot of stupid things when I was young. But I own them and don't hate my former self for doing them. Mind you, I didn't hurt anyone (except emotionally, and not intentionally) and wasn't a criminal. If that were different, maybe I'd have to process it differently.

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                        Probably not that much different tbh.

                        I think you can understand something without embracing it or condoning it. I did a few bad things, it's understandable that kids with that age and upbringing will, as long as you own what you did, put right what you can and atone for the rest, there's no need to hate yourself.

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                          What are your thoughts on doing a Nazi salute when seeing a cybertruck? Is it okay because we are mocking them? Or is it just never okay to do a Nazi salute?

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                            What are your thoughts on doing a Nazi salute when seeing a cybertruck? Is it okay because we are mocking them? Or is it just never okay to do a Nazi salute?

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                            don't do a nazi salute, you'll just end up making it socially acceptable. Middle finger instead.

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                              What are your thoughts on doing a Nazi salute when seeing a cybertruck? Is it okay because we are mocking them? Or is it just never okay to do a Nazi salute?

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                              Definitely do not. Might be a show of support.

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                              • C [email protected]

                                Sure, but not everyone is using Ublock? One could argue that they should be, but what's wrong with offering an alternative?

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                                I never said there was anything wrong. I was letting them know ublock works just fine on the Atlantic. Imagine that, the words I wrote were what I meant. You people are so fucking weird reading so much into the simplest sentence.

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                                • M [email protected]

                                  Only now the chickens are coming home to roost and they wanna get out, not before though. When Elons stock was up they were happy to have the car.

                                  This is why we see vandalism as well on these

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                                  "The working class folk who can easily afford luxury cars, you're just mad they got a Tesla and not a Lambo."

                                  If I had the money for a Tesla I'd be better off in general.

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                                  • a_random_idiot@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                                    look at the other reply from psi, trying to paint tesla owners as part of us poor workin class folk.

                                    Its fuckin nuttier than squirrel turds.

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                                    And they claim we're the idiots when we can see the history and facts and have memories longer than a gold fish.

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                                      It's the top-down nature of the eugenics movement that made it so morally repugnant. "We decide who's fit to have kids."

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                                      Fair enough.

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                                      • J [email protected]

                                        don't do a nazi salute, you'll just end up making it socially acceptable. Middle finger instead.

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                                        πŸ–•πŸ›žπŸ“πŸ›ž

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                                        • eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.comE [email protected]

                                          And they claim we're the idiots when we can see the history and facts and have memories longer than a gold fish.

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                                          its infuriating being a person who remembers history in the world of social media where people make up history on the spot to justify and protect themselves.

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