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Why Lemmy is so superior to Reddit: No Karma, Just Value Content

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    Lemmy's design is focused on quality content by ditching the Karma farmers and addicts. No more chasing upvotes—people here actually focus on real value instead of feeding the ego.

    EDIT: I know there are upvotes and downvotes, but the problem with Reddit is you can't post in most communities if your karma or reputation is bad. This is a big problem because herd mentality prevails there and if ypu have unpopular opinions you're basically censored.

    Lemmy isn't designed to milk ypur dopamine with notifications every 10 upvotes, so you focus more on posting valuable cont instead of farming for approval and upvotes.

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    ...what do you think "karma" is?

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      Seems like a not so good way to me, and thats why people are complaining.

      You can just look through the communities and sub to good ones.

      Maybe it would be helpful to use ALL with scaled sorting. It boosts smaller communities.

      I gave up using all on reddit a very long time ago, and Lemmy is basically the same.... But at least on Lemmy you have scaled sorting to try and help.

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      For what it's worth I generally agree with you, and especially think the people who treat /all as their own personal feed are nuts, but nonetheless it's something that some people do 🫠

      Everyone has their own preferences about how to use things!

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      • dual_sport_dork@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

        Like that guy who never posts any comments shorter than three paragraphs all perfectly formatted and punctuated.

        'Sup.

        Yes, I realize this particular comment is somewhat self defeating and probably not a great example. But that's not the point.

        The point is it's apparently become my mission in life to annoy all the people on the internet who just check out any time they see a string of text that's longer than 160 characters. I've been doing this since the early '90's and you punks will never stop me.

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        The user I'm thinking of has a cat themed username. They comment quite a bit, or at least they used to.

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          Well yeah, that's what ALL is right? The most generic stuff. You can browse communities and subscribe as needed.

          If you are going to use all It might help to enable scaled sorting.

          It boosts small communities in the sort.

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          I'll try, thank you 🙂

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            Seems like a not so good way to me, and thats why people are complaining.

            You can just look through the communities and sub to good ones.

            Maybe it would be helpful to use ALL with scaled sorting. It boosts smaller communities.

            I gave up using all on reddit a very long time ago, and Lemmy is basically the same.... But at least on Lemmy you have scaled sorting to try and help.

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            Or just…browse all and then block communities you don’t want to see. Most stuff I block is furry shit. Nothing against it, I just don’t want to see it.

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            • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comF [email protected]

              Yeah, lemmy suffers a lot of from this. Too many posts that try to just make the front page, too many popular communities that dominate c/all. I've even had a friend quit over this.

              I genuinely miss communities about games, linguistics and niche hobbies - they just aren't as popular as news/politics/general memes and that. I do try to post them as much as i can, but since they're niche there's only so much content you can find.

              I'd love for the frontpage to have some [optional, ofc] changes that encourage more of this type of content.

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              For games, make sure you are subscribed to:

              • [email protected]
              • [email protected]
              • [email protected]
              • [email protected]

              All are healthy and active, and I'm sure there are more. I suggest cross-posting stuff from a niche community you contribute to, to one of these, to bring traction to the smaller community.

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                Really? I have like 15 meme communities blocked, and there are comparably very few niche communities.

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                With time we’ll get there! The more we slowly contribute to the niche topics, the more we’ll see these communities grow. I’m sure there are a sizable amount of people from Reddit looking for their niches on here to start growing more for them to fully hop over. I’ve got a good chunk of mine on Lemmy now, but still a handful of ones I haven’t found a comparable server for yet. If I understood running a server more I probably would have started a couple of my own for these topics.

                Is there anywhere on Lemmy people can request for servers to get started? I think that would be helpful to have since missing topics are some of the barriers of entry for some people.

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                • ? Guest

                  Lemmy's design is focused on quality content by ditching the Karma farmers and addicts. No more chasing upvotes—people here actually focus on real value instead of feeding the ego.

                  EDIT: I know there are upvotes and downvotes, but the problem with Reddit is you can't post in most communities if your karma or reputation is bad. This is a big problem because herd mentality prevails there and if ypu have unpopular opinions you're basically censored.

                  Lemmy isn't designed to milk ypur dopamine with notifications every 10 upvotes, so you focus more on posting valuable cont instead of farming for approval and upvotes.

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                  Lemmy is small enough, that without even seeing a karma total, some users have an unofficial "rapport", where I've seen them around enough to recognize whether they are the type to go against the grain, a perpetual troll, or a usually reasonable person with an unusually spicy take.

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                  • mhloppy@fedia.ioM [email protected]

                    For what it's worth I generally agree with you, and especially think the people who treat /all as their own personal feed are nuts, but nonetheless it's something that some people do 🫠

                    Everyone has their own preferences about how to use things!

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                    I usually doomscroll all. on reddit, i used to sub to subs, but on lemmy, because it's quite small, I just use all.

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                    • semi_hemi_demigod@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                      One feature I liked about Kbin was that my own comments weren’t upvoted automatically

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                      Kbin didn't federate downvotes which was pretty funny. No one from it knew when they were being downvoted by lemmy.

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                        Blocked? Why? If you don't want to see them why are you subscribed to them?

                        I mean if you want niche communities you create them and subscribe to them right?

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                        I just see them in the Everything feed, and if I don't block them, they seem to dominate. I'm not actually against them, but I don't want my feed to be all memes.

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                        • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comF [email protected]

                          Yeah, lemmy suffers a lot of from this. Too many posts that try to just make the front page, too many popular communities that dominate c/all. I've even had a friend quit over this.

                          I genuinely miss communities about games, linguistics and niche hobbies - they just aren't as popular as news/politics/general memes and that. I do try to post them as much as i can, but since they're niche there's only so much content you can find.

                          I'd love for the frontpage to have some [optional, ofc] changes that encourage more of this type of content.

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                          Pretty much any game or random hobby I'm on at the moment, I could count on finding a decently populated and active Subreddit. This is what's missing from Lemmy.

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                            Why would anyone be on all? Even with reddit I I quit going to all probably 10 years ago....

                            And don't let my Lemmy age fool you, I drop my account every 6 to 8 months. It took my a lot longer to figure that out on reddit.

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                            Ok...then what do you recommend for a varied random feed of news and posts from various communities?

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                              I mean there are upvotes and downvotes so I don't know what you mean. But there isn't a real incentive to have lots of upvotes on here. I'm not even sure why karma farming even is a thing on reddit. Maybe cause you can sell the account to whatever guy wants to buy it?

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                              It’s because Reddit specifically optimizes the site so that upvotes give you the maximum dopamine and keep you hooked on it like a crack. Most corporate social media thrive on keeping their users hooked through cheap tricks.

                              Lemmy Marxist Leninist Stalinist Maoist dev on the other hand doesn’t care or isn’t even able to do this because he doesn’t have an army of psychology experts to design it that way

                              So no you don’t get anything out of karma but your brain thinks you do and every aspect of the site is built to maximise this. I hate it

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                                Lemmy's design is focused on quality content by ditching the Karma farmers and addicts. No more chasing upvotes—people here actually focus on real value instead of feeding the ego.

                                EDIT: I know there are upvotes and downvotes, but the problem with Reddit is you can't post in most communities if your karma or reputation is bad. This is a big problem because herd mentality prevails there and if ypu have unpopular opinions you're basically censored.

                                Lemmy isn't designed to milk ypur dopamine with notifications every 10 upvotes, so you focus more on posting valuable cont instead of farming for approval and upvotes.

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                                Lemmy still relies on upvotes for ranking the feed, so, farming them makes sense, it's just isolated per each post.

                                And I believe the issue might get worse as Lemmy grows. The reason Reddit came up with karma and all that is because the more people you have on your platform, the more baddies you have to account for.

                                For now, Lemmy is small enough for a basic interpersonal reputation to mostly just work, but as it grows, we need something else. Presumably, not karma.

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                                  Lemmy still relies on upvotes for ranking the feed, so, farming them makes sense, it's just isolated per each post.

                                  And I believe the issue might get worse as Lemmy grows. The reason Reddit came up with karma and all that is because the more people you have on your platform, the more baddies you have to account for.

                                  For now, Lemmy is small enough for a basic interpersonal reputation to mostly just work, but as it grows, we need something else. Presumably, not karma.

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                                  Perhaps a creddit system (for gits and shiggles)

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                                  • R [email protected]

                                    For games, make sure you are subscribed to:

                                    • [email protected]
                                    • [email protected]
                                    • [email protected]
                                    • [email protected]

                                    All are healthy and active, and I'm sure there are more. I suggest cross-posting stuff from a niche community you contribute to, to one of these, to bring traction to the smaller community.

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                                    Last one seems not to exist.

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                                    • R [email protected]

                                      For games, make sure you are subscribed to:

                                      • [email protected]
                                      • [email protected]
                                      • [email protected]
                                      • [email protected]

                                      All are healthy and active, and I'm sure there are more. I suggest cross-posting stuff from a niche community you contribute to, to one of these, to bring traction to the smaller community.

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                                      maybe my definitions of healthy and active are extremely biased, but these communities have several days-old posts with low numbers of comments and limited reply threads. not only that, but there's lots of news articles about the industry but not much stuff about GAMES, be that random reviews, discussions, or memes.

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                                        Not necessarily, I usually downvote comments where there are enough rebuttal replies but I still disagree heavily with what's being said. I am able to provide the Nth coherent rebuttal but I'm just either lazy or I don't want to contribute to the spam.

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                                          Lemmy's design is focused on quality content by ditching the Karma farmers and addicts. No more chasing upvotes—people here actually focus on real value instead of feeding the ego.

                                          EDIT: I know there are upvotes and downvotes, but the problem with Reddit is you can't post in most communities if your karma or reputation is bad. This is a big problem because herd mentality prevails there and if ypu have unpopular opinions you're basically censored.

                                          Lemmy isn't designed to milk ypur dopamine with notifications every 10 upvotes, so you focus more on posting valuable cont instead of farming for approval and upvotes.

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                                          Just value content

                                          Lemming36: Here is a high quality 46 MB photo of a shiny bat poop straight to .world HDD

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