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France and Germany, in joint collaboration, have developed a Google Docs alternative - and its awesome! (Netherlands are currently onboarded)

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  • W [email protected]

    no office software requires admin eighter unless you want to install it for all users

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    it's often a pain to install in computers that don't have it by default, like school computers or similar, but alright, didn't know it!

    +some people don't like installing stuff

    +you can't collaborate with other people on the default LibreOffice I iirc

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      I guess I don't mind if I can self host the server. If I can't I have no interest in touching it.

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      For sure! self hosting is the way

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        Onlyoffice seems a little slack on the security and updates. I saw the warnings in the desktop package, have they made sure the online offerings are secure?

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        #131

        If there are issues like this, sounds like a good goal for a country that wants to divest from US tech companies.

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          Is there a German-hosted instance? The URL https://docs.numerique.gouv.fr/login/ is making me wanna barf and no way I'm clicking it to risk seeing more Fr*nch.

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          #132

          It's okay, you can curse on the internet.

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          • N [email protected]

            It says in one of the first paragraphs, that its open-source

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            Ah, I missed that detall!
            https://github.com/suitenumerique/docs

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            • S [email protected]

              It's pretty easy if you use NextCloud with the AIO image, but if you're doing anything fancier than that, strap in because there aren't many decent tutorials.

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              #134

              Even nextcloud-not-AIO offers a way to install the server of office suites through the settings of the admin account all in the web GUI. I've chosen onlyoffice but it could have been nextcloud docs or collabora (and soon maybe, this thing)

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              • C [email protected]

                Is there a German-hosted instance? The URL https://docs.numerique.gouv.fr/login/ is making me wanna barf and no way I'm clicking it to risk seeing more Fr*nch.

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                #135

                lol what did the French do to you?

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                  Really cool. I tried to sign up but you have to be part of an officially recognized organization in France and input their registration number as part of the process.

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                  • azalty@jlai.luA [email protected]

                    For sure! self hosting is the way

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                    True: self hosting is beneficial, Foss office suite is great to empower us, users... etc.

                    The point of the software presented isn't aimed at regular computer users that would enjoy a bit of independence, it looks more like something aimed at the enterprise administrative level that people may stumble upon while searching for a document (who needs versioning apart from filename extensions if you alone work on the documents).See it as: you may find , download and use updated packaged software on github but in reality it's really a tool aimed at devs before being a software repository for end users.

                    I see this as software mainly for the French or German state administration being made public for others to enrich, integrate... Like Olvid is a matrix based E2E encrypted, real authenticated identity based messenger made available to the public once the French government financed it's development for it's own use.

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                      Really cool. I tried to sign up but you have to be part of an officially recognized organization in France and input their registration number as part of the process.

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                      I definitely don't want the government attached to my personal files, in any country.

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                      • L [email protected]

                        What does this do over what the collabora tools in Nextcloud do?

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                        NGL I keep forgetting NextCloud has collaboration tools.

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                        • panarab@lemm.eeP [email protected]

                          Calligra and LibreOffice already exist though. I am not against this in principle but couldn’t they have invested in an existing FOSS project?

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                          A lot of government programs don't really make sense and are there just to put a name on a CV sadly.
                          Collabora Online does exactly that and is primary licensed under Mozilla Public License.

                          They could have easily expanded Collabora. But you know, can't stamp your name on it.

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                          • trihilis@ani.socialT [email protected]

                            Thanks I'll definitely check that out. I've seen some posts about it working on Synology Nas devices so that's very interesting.

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                            If you ever diverge away from proprietary Synology solution, NextCloud has 100% integration with Collabora too.

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                              Really cool. I tried to sign up but you have to be part of an officially recognized organization in France and input their registration number as part of the process.

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                              Yeah I thought this was open to the general public, I didn't realize that it was not

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                                Nice to see Lemmy is not just a place for complete nerds!

                                FOSS is free and open-source software. In simple terms, it is any program for which the source code (i.e. the actual code that forms the program, its entire backbone) is available for anyone to see and modify as they see fit, without any technical or legal limitations.

                                This is normally seen as very positive, because everyone with the knowledge of respective programming languages can inspect the program to see it doesn't do anything malicious, and everyone can change the program to their needs. Also, the original creator of the program does not have power to put any limitations on its use, like introducing payment requirements, or deleting important features, because everyone can immediately spawn a version of the program that doesn't have these changes, while still having the rest.

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                                So... how do I use it? I tried signing up on the site, but.... it said something about an organization it was poorly transltaed from French to English, so I couldn't tell what I was doing.. I got as far as registering my current email address

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                                • panarab@lemm.eeP [email protected]

                                  Calligra and LibreOffice already exist though. I am not against this in principle but couldn’t they have invested in an existing FOSS project?

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                                  Wait LibreOffice has a cloud?

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                                  • loudwaterenjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.comL [email protected]

                                    In case you didn't understood by now, it's free open source software

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                                    So how do I use it?

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                                      We already have kDrive you get 1TB storage for only 2€ a month, it's based in Switzerland

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                                        So... how do I use it? I tried signing up on the site, but.... it said something about an organization it was poorly transltaed from French to English, so I couldn't tell what I was doing.. I got as far as registering my current email address

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                                        It might be a bit early for you. It's in a way like Lemmy, somebody has to put it on a server and let you use it.

                                        It's meant for government agencies to deploy and use (although anybody with some self hosting knowledge can do on their servers, including hobbiests and companies)

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                                          Nice, DINUM is doing a lot so great to see go beyond with supra national collaboration!

                                          I'm using NextCloud (Germany and international open source community) hosted on Webo (Slovenia) with data centers in Germany and Helsinki (so I bet on Hetzner). I'm happy with it but I'll keep on eye on https://github.com/suitenumerique/docs

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