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Why Lemmy is so superior to Reddit: No Karma, Just Value Content

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  • C [email protected]

    If/when it does get big enough, what would be a good solution? It would be possible to do the same as Reddit

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    #231

    If/when it does get big enough, what would be a good solution?

    The best solution is to do nothing and don't try to bring reddit's groupthink enforcement flaws to lemmy.

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      Unpopular opinions deserve to be silenced? Terrible idea. We already have way too much group think.

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      #232

      Hey, I've got unpopular opinions. No, it's usually someone who is trolling.

      It's far from perfect but of the people I've seen, they are usually so bad that they are damaging dialogue, not fostering it.

      Usually it's eventually reversed if they are not a troll. People here are pretty decent and upvote most things.

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      • T [email protected]

        by ditching the Karma farmers

        How, exactly? Decentralization aside, lemmy is a reddit clone, but on a smaller scale. The same human psychology that drives reddit also drives lemmy. I think your assessment is more applicable to mastodon because there you really have to figure out how to fill your feed with content.

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        #233

        Not really, because votes are only counted on a "by content" basis in any way that I'm aware of that is used

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        • B [email protected]

          Give it another year or two and we’ll have some website that tallies the karma of lemmy users. Clout is an insidious disease that grows like a social cancer.

          It has already happened with this piece of cancer.

          https://join.piefed.social/2024/06/22/piefed-features-for-growing-healthy-communities/

          Find people who have low karma

          When someone is consistently getting downvoted it’s likely they are a problem. PieFed provides a list of accounts with low karma, sorted by lowest first. Clicking on their user name takes you to their profile which shows all their posts and comments in one place. Every profile has “Ban” and “Ban + Purge” buttons that have instance-wide effects and are only visible to admins.

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          #234

          Wow. I definitely do not love that.

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          • ? Guest

            I have a question though:

            On Reddit the same post won't usually show up twice in my feed (unless it's a repost). So once you've seen it, Reddit notices that and kind of marks it as seen I guess.

            Using Lemmy however I happen to see the same posts over and over again for days. Is there any way to fix this?

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            #235

            In addition to what's been said, I prefer to sort by top 6 hours in everything, and I get plenty of good fresh content all the time that way.

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            • P [email protected]

              You guys are both wrong. It's the number times in life that you've farted and lied about it.

              dumbass@leminal.spaceD This user is from outside of this forum
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              #236

              Nah it can't be that, that numbers way too low to be that.

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                Give it another year or two and we’ll have some website that tallies the karma of lemmy users. Clout is an insidious disease that grows like a social cancer.

                It has already happened with this piece of cancer.

                https://join.piefed.social/2024/06/22/piefed-features-for-growing-healthy-communities/

                Find people who have low karma

                When someone is consistently getting downvoted it’s likely they are a problem. PieFed provides a list of accounts with low karma, sorted by lowest first. Clicking on their user name takes you to their profile which shows all their posts and comments in one place. Every profile has “Ban” and “Ban + Purge” buttons that have instance-wide effects and are only visible to admins.

                rickyrigatoni@lemm.eeR This user is from outside of this forum
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                Well guess I'm not using piefed. Still pissed about getting automatically temp muted on reddit years ago just for saying I didn't like skyrim that much.

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                  Does that feel good?

                  I just want the absolute value of my comment's karma to be high. That means it has been read at least that many times.

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                  #238

                  Oh, so if it's going to be down voted anyway, then a lot of down votes feels good? Guess that's more validating than a middling response

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                  • gedaliyah@lemmy.worldG [email protected]

                    Hey, I've got unpopular opinions. No, it's usually someone who is trolling.

                    It's far from perfect but of the people I've seen, they are usually so bad that they are damaging dialogue, not fostering it.

                    Usually it's eventually reversed if they are not a troll. People here are pretty decent and upvote most things.

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                    Hey, I’ve got unpopular opinions. No, it’s usually someone who is trolling.

                    A lot of people can't tell the difference and just assume that someone with an unpopular opinion must be trolling.

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                    • ? Guest

                      Lemmy's design is focused on quality content by ditching the Karma farmers and addicts. No more chasing upvotes—people here actually focus on real value instead of feeding the ego.

                      EDIT: I know there are upvotes and downvotes, but the problem with Reddit is you can't post in most communities if your karma or reputation is bad. This is a big problem because herd mentality prevails there and if ypu have unpopular opinions you're basically censored.

                      Lemmy isn't designed to milk ypur dopamine with notifications every 10 upvotes, so you focus more on posting valuable cont instead of farming for approval and upvotes.

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                      #240

                      Then why are there so many beans and jeans on my front page?

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                        They will do it so long as not doing it greatly increases the amount of busywork, spam moderation and troll moderation.

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                        They will do it so long as not doing it greatly increases the amount of busywork, spam moderation and troll moderation.

                        Then they are unfit to be moderators because they are subtracting value from free discussions. I would much rather have to little moderation than lazy heavy handed moderation.

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                          They will do it so long as not doing it greatly increases the amount of busywork, spam moderation and troll moderation.

                          Then they are unfit to be moderators because they are subtracting value from free discussions. I would much rather have to little moderation than lazy heavy handed moderation.

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                          In this case, its automation. It's also a partial response to Reddits ineffectual moderator system. No-one is gunna spend all day monitoring comments from trolls and spammers on basic communities usually flooded with comments. I can't see anyone especially truly engaged to do so in (for example, and I have no idea if these communities do this) in r/aww or r/pics or r/jokes or r/videos, which are just pretty basic subreddits that aren't really hobbyist.

                          Whereas say, r/AskHistorians or some video game community or a music subgenre community likely will by their hobbyist nature attract more engaged moderators.

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                          • S [email protected]

                            Then why are there so many beans and jeans on my front page?

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                            Just Value Content

                            Literally right there in the title.

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                            • rickyrigatoni@lemm.eeR [email protected]

                              Well guess I'm not using piefed. Still pissed about getting automatically temp muted on reddit years ago just for saying I didn't like skyrim that much.

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                              oh ok so we're just allowing straight hate speech now cool

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                                Lemmy's design is focused on quality content by ditching the Karma farmers and addicts. No more chasing upvotes—people here actually focus on real value instead of feeding the ego.

                                EDIT: I know there are upvotes and downvotes, but the problem with Reddit is you can't post in most communities if your karma or reputation is bad. This is a big problem because herd mentality prevails there and if ypu have unpopular opinions you're basically censored.

                                Lemmy isn't designed to milk ypur dopamine with notifications every 10 upvotes, so you focus more on posting valuable cont instead of farming for approval and upvotes.

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                                There can be many reasons reddit sucks, but I'd argue its mostly because Spez is a mega douche and Reddit was captured by mods who had agendas and just silenced anyone who disagreed. Or they were paid to do it.

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                                  Lemmy's design is focused on quality content by ditching the Karma farmers and addicts. No more chasing upvotes—people here actually focus on real value instead of feeding the ego.

                                  EDIT: I know there are upvotes and downvotes, but the problem with Reddit is you can't post in most communities if your karma or reputation is bad. This is a big problem because herd mentality prevails there and if ypu have unpopular opinions you're basically censored.

                                  Lemmy isn't designed to milk ypur dopamine with notifications every 10 upvotes, so you focus more on posting valuable cont instead of farming for approval and upvotes.

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                                  I just wanted to let everyone know there is an option in your settings so you don't see upvotes or downvotes.

                                  None of these imaginary points fucking matter.

                                  So why don't you do yourself a favor and uncheck these boxes and not give a fuck what others think about your comment.

                                  I know I have.

                                  (Lemmy is rad as fuck)

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                                  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG [email protected]

                                    I just hope that Lemmy stays nice. I don't want it to reach 100 million+ users and be overwhelmed with RAGEBAIT and scams.

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                                    Instances will rise and fall, but we can always just crack open a cold one with each other and open a new instance.

                                    No more switching services... finally!

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                                      I just hope that Lemmy stays nice. I don't want it to reach 100 million+ users and be overwhelmed with RAGEBAIT and scams.

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                                      Bots are already the ones posting most of the articles here. Disguised #ads are also on Lemmy and will become a problem if ever Lemmy grows substantially (which I don't believe will ever happen).

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                                      • ivanafterall@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                                        oh ok so we're just allowing straight hate speech now cool

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                                        Waking up to this message made me scared of what sleepy me said last night lmao

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                                        • ultragigagigantic@lemmy.mlU [email protected]

                                          I just wanted to let everyone know there is an option in your settings so you don't see upvotes or downvotes.

                                          None of these imaginary points fucking matter.

                                          So why don't you do yourself a favor and uncheck these boxes and not give a fuck what others think about your comment.

                                          I know I have.

                                          (Lemmy is rad as fuck)

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                                          I upvoted you for what it's worth. More worthless karma for you

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