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Microsoft tells Windows 10 users to just trade in their PC for a newer one, because how hard can it be?

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  • ptz@dubvee.orgP [email protected]

    It's one new PC, Michael. How much could it cost? $10?

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    What's 10 dollars? The people saying this are too rich to understand poor numbers. They probably think in terms of "a new pc costs less than an hour at my favorite spa, people are complaining too much".

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      eli5? people can continue using windows 10 but becomes insecure?

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      Ms will stop supporting windows 10. Windows 11 has hardware requirements for a specific security chip and processors with specific features, so upgrading components isn’t an option.

      If you have an old pc you can’t easily upgrade. Theres ways of forcing it to work but it’s not supported.

      A lot of businesses will be getting rid of their old pcs so they dont need to deal with the hassle.

      Linux will still support and run on the older hardware, so a lot of people are expecting used hardware prices to drop.

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        What's 10 dollars? The people saying this are too rich to understand poor numbers. They probably think in terms of "a new pc costs less than an hour at my favorite spa, people are complaining too much".

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        It's a joke from a tv show. The rich out of touch lady thinks bananas "only cost" ten dollars.

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          Yes. The totaly real PC trade-in market...

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          • shininghero@pawb.socialS [email protected]

            Or better yet, windows 10 LTSC. Which will be supported for another 2 years. 4 if you subsequently switch the product key to the IOT LTSC version.

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            oh nice - thanks for sharing, i was not aware of this and will add it to my toolbox!

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              It's a joke from a tv show. The rich out of touch lady thinks bananas "only cost" ten dollars.

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              Ahead of its time, predicting the consequences of tariffs like that.

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                Just in case anyone reading doenst know - the free tool Rufus can write a Win 11 ISO to your usb drive md remove all the silly soft requirements.

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                Windows updates don't work correctly a lot of the time if you've bypassed the requirements. My predecessor at work installed 11 on some ancient systems and it's been a hassle.

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                  The hurdles windows users are willing to put up with is nothing less than amazing. That's not a good thing.

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                  Or look at it the other way: they hate Linux so much they'd rather deal with that than deal with Linux.

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                    eli5? people can continue using windows 10 but becomes insecure?

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                    No, the police will show up at your door on October 11th and arrest you on the spot.

                    If you're in the US you'll be sent to El Salvador. If you're anywhere else you'll be sent to the US, receive a few tattoos, then El Salvador.

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                      Just in case anyone reading doenst know - the free tool Rufus can write a Win 11 ISO to your usb drive md remove all the silly soft requirements.

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                      Yeah, but will updates work? And even if they do, what's stopping Microsoft in disabling them somehow?

                      Nowadays if you want to have usable Windows installation you need to use a bunch of 3rd party scripts that might break on next update. Learning Linux is easier than this shit.

                      I can't wait for someone to ask me how to solve some shit in Windows, and me saying that I don't have patience for this crap.

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                        Windows updates don't work correctly a lot of the time if you've bypassed the requirements. My predecessor at work installed 11 on some ancient systems and it's been a hassle.

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                        I’ve had no issues on the machines i’ve done this with, aside from having to do an upgrade in place with a major update (used rufus, write the latest iso, did the upgrade from the bootable usb.

                        regular windows updates work without hassle. perhaps your predecessor didn’t use a complete solution 🤷

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                          I installed linux on my PC a couple months ago. The other day I wanted to log back into my windows partition for the first time in a while in order to clean up some of the files on that partition (even though the drive is mounted in linux, the windows "fast boot" option apparently leaves it in a state that linux considers read-only). Windows apparently wouldn't let me log in without a microsoft account, instead of just using my regular windows username.

                          So yeah, that partition's gone now. No going back!

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                            Yeah, but will updates work? And even if they do, what's stopping Microsoft in disabling them somehow?

                            Nowadays if you want to have usable Windows installation you need to use a bunch of 3rd party scripts that might break on next update. Learning Linux is easier than this shit.

                            I can't wait for someone to ask me how to solve some shit in Windows, and me saying that I don't have patience for this crap.

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                            updates work.

                            MS won’t disable them - they want people to move to Windows 11.

                            Congrats on migrating to Linux! it’s what i’ve been pushing friends and family towards for decades, and thankfully Ubuntu is in a position right now to be a fine desktop OS, esp for the average user who lives in a web browser.

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                              Or better yet, windows 10 LTSC. Which will be supported for another 2 years. 4 if you subsequently switch the product key to the IOT LTSC version.

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                              IOT version is supported until 2032

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                                Or look at it the other way: they hate Linux so much they'd rather deal with that than deal with Linux.

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                                I would love to learn and deal with Linux, unfortunately the software I need for work only supports Mac or Win

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                                  Trade in their PCs to who? Fucking Aquaman?

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                                    Let's get all IT people together and fight through the hassle to help friends and family switch to Linux

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                                      updates work.

                                      MS won’t disable them - they want people to move to Windows 11.

                                      Congrats on migrating to Linux! it’s what i’ve been pushing friends and family towards for decades, and thankfully Ubuntu is in a position right now to be a fine desktop OS, esp for the average user who lives in a web browser.

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                                      I am using Debian stable, since I no longer care about having latest stuff and the whole Debian-like ecosystem is what I am the most familiar with. As for Ubuntu I never had good experience with it, with random crashes all the time last time I used it (about 10-12 years ago), and when I tried it last year, I encountered random crashes in GNOME apps just after finishing setup.

                                      Linux Mint (regular or LMDE) is what I'd probably install on other people computers though. Literally never had problems with it (used it about 10 years ago on a netbook).

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                                        Is that Sam Reich in a penguin suit!?

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                                          I would love to learn and deal with Linux, unfortunately the software I need for work only supports Mac or Win

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                                          It's possible you can run it through wine, might be worth a try

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