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Microsoft tells Windows 10 users to just trade in their PC for a newer one, because how hard can it be?

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  • moe90@feddit.nlM [email protected]
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    Seriously, use Linux. What is the problem?

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      When will Commerce Secretary Sputnik shill for Windows 11 on Fox?

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        Nobara or Pop! OS would be good choices.

        Yeah, VR is still catching up, but I feel like (dual) booting to Win 10 just for specific purposes would greatly reduce the risk.

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        Just installed ZorinOS on my PC (dual boot with Windows 11) and I'm playing Diablo 4 on Linux. How cool is this?

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          Seriously, use Linux. What is the problem?

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          my main problems are the lack of support for Adobe programs and several online games

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            my main problems are the lack of support for Adobe programs and several online games

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            Fair, but that's not a Linux problem. Publishers need to support the platform. Is windows bad for not "running" final cut?

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              Nobara or Pop! OS would be good choices.

              Yeah, VR is still catching up, but I feel like (dual) booting to Win 10 just for specific purposes would greatly reduce the risk.

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              Bazzite is better imo

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              • kazerniel@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

                my main problems are the lack of support for Adobe programs and several online games

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                Go to https://www.goeuropean.org/#products-list and try to enter the Adobe search word. 🙂 Could it be an alternative for you?

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                  Fair, but that's not a Linux problem. Publishers need to support the platform. Is windows bad for not "running" final cut?

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                  Not the fault of Linux, but these are still the "problem" OP asked about regarding switching to Linux.

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                    I really want to put Linux on my gaming PC, but I'm doubtful I can get my Rift S working on there. 😕

                    Apparently there is an openxr driver for it, though, so I suppose I should at least give it a shot.

                    There's absolutely no way I'm going to win11, though.

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                    As someone who routinely used to sink thousands of hours into games, and by that I mean 3000 hrs. on R6-3, 2500 hrs. on Squad and so on, the predatory practices of Microsoft, Steam and game developers have just turned me off gaming completely.

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                      Not the fault of Linux, but these are still the "problem" OP asked about regarding switching to Linux.

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                      It is, but i wanted to contextualize it for them and others reading. People sometimes have some idea that it would be impossible to port due to some inhernat aspect to linux. Might be true for something that makes heavy windows API use, but for many others its just a business case. And I wanted emphasis that a bit

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                        Go to https://www.goeuropean.org/#products-list and try to enter the Adobe search word. 🙂 Could it be an alternative for you?

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                        Sadly nothing for Adobe InDesign, which is like 2/3 of my workflow 😞 (Also I don't see an option to filter to Linux programs on that site.)

                        I spent half hour searching on alternativeto.net just now, but for the 3 Adobe programs I use (InDesign, Illustrator, Photoshop) all FLOSS Linux options seem to be lacking essential features. Based on comments, even in more popular alternatives, features like PDF exporting or CMYK colour handling require workarounds or additional external programs.

                        (Re. searching only for FLOSS: I'm not opposed to paying for software, but when I enabled that option on alternativeto.net, a lot of results were subscription-based, which I do strongly oppose 😕 )

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                          Hot take from an IT guy: save your important data, make a plain vanilla W11 boot USB (nothing fancy, no Rufus tricks), wipe your hard drive to zeroes, and install W11 like normal. I've reimaged a ton of older PCs and literally never seen it not work. My 10 year old Optiplex, supposedly ineligible for W11, runs W11 just fine.

                          Microsoft might someday break it, sure. That's not new. Microsoft products were always, in practice, available to us at Microsoft's pleasure. This is the same company that allows massgrave to exist on git because they'd rather we pirate MS Office than allow LibreOffice any oxygen. We'll probably be fine.

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                          Also IT guy. Hot take indeed. I've done this but won't support this.
                          I will almost guarantee some update will break shit at the most inconvenient time humanly possible and the people you've done this for will need your help, all at the same time.

                          I'm using this opportunity to expand Linux market share.

                          Most people only use browser.
                          People that ask me about Windows 10 eol get pushed towards Linux.

                          Only if they need stuff that won't work on Linux or they really really want Windows to use Chrome or Firefox on for some reason I'll recommend complying with Microsoft's hubris.

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                            Also IT guy. Hot take indeed. I've done this but won't support this.
                            I will almost guarantee some update will break shit at the most inconvenient time humanly possible and the people you've done this for will need your help, all at the same time.

                            I'm using this opportunity to expand Linux market share.

                            Most people only use browser.
                            People that ask me about Windows 10 eol get pushed towards Linux.

                            Only if they need stuff that won't work on Linux or they really really want Windows to use Chrome or Firefox on for some reason I'll recommend complying with Microsoft's hubris.

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                            I will almost guarantee some update will break shit at the most inconvenient time humanly possible and the people you’ve done this for will need your help, all at the same time.

                            Well, yeah. That's life as an admin under the best circumstances. There's a running list of Windows ticking time bombs over on r/sysadmin. There are lots of good reasons to ditch Windows, but I wouldn't say the risk of MS shutting down technically unsupported hardware is one of them (because I don't agree it's a substantial risk).

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                              Microsoft is getting billions for AI datacenters (they're now turning back on) why do you buy me a fucking new PC Microsoft

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                              Why have 1bil when you could have 1.1 bil

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                                Much business oriented software just hasn't had the work done on it to work on Wine. Really the only reason I have to run Windows now is the 3D CAD software I use and my best option at this point is running it in a Windows VM on my server. And no Freecad and Fusion360 aren't suitable options, they both suck.

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                                Ouch that's unfortunate. At least keep your old hardware for personal use Linux when you get new work PC. Get your feet wet with the ecosystems

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                                  So, uh... You gonna trade me a better machine for my current one, Microsoft?

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                                    Ah, the old Ben Shapiro logic. If you don't want your house that's at risk of flooding, don't worry, simply sell it! Someone's bound to give you a good price for it!

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                                      Seriously, use Linux. What is the problem?

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                                      Adobe and ease of use

                                      I need Adobe, specifically Lightroom, because there’s no alternative. I can’t just stop using it as a semi-professional photographer (I make money from it, just not a ton).

                                      Darktable doesn’t handle large libraries well and also is missing features such as AI remove and integration with photoshop for splitting photos up for social media posts.

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                                        Fair, but that's not a Linux problem. Publishers need to support the platform. Is windows bad for not "running" final cut?

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                                        I'm going to go against the grain here a bit and say that people considering a switch to Linux need to have certain expectations going into it. There are zero guarantees that anything Linux will be a "just works" operation. Especially when you get into the laptop scene and proprietary hardware.

                                        Like sometimes an update will break things. Sometimes you will break things and spend time fixing it. Sometimes a piece of software and/or hardware will just not work at all and you'll try convoluted workarounds that may or may not work. Linux support is often an afterthought considering <5% of desktop users use it. Popular programs and software are often just not available at all and the FOSS alternatives lack features you may need.

                                        I truly feel that Linux is like the "I own an old hotrod in my garage and work on it as a hobby" compared to "I drive a cheap commuter car and just want it to work". Yes windows breaks sometimes too, and I hate using their current operating system at work with telemetry and ads and knee-crippling limitations or random ass crashes, etc.

                                        But I've also been in the position that I woke up one day and updated Garuda Linux and spent the entire day trying to not boot into a plain black screen when I had my KVM connected. I finally got my fstab working to mount my NFS share of my NAS after months of fucking with it when I feel like this is an incredibly easy "problem" that's solution should have been apparent for the last 30 years or so and in my eyes should be something the OS should just "do on its own" automatically.

                                        All that being said, I still love Linux and will never use anything else on my systems. I enjoy the tweaking of things, experimenting, having all the control I could ever want.

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                                          Seriously, use Linux. What is the problem?

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                                          Gaming. The only reason I went from Ubuntu to Windows.

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