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Microsoft tells Windows 10 users to just trade in their PC for a newer one, because how hard can it be?

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    Try them here: https://distrosea.com/

    I suggest Cinnamon Ubuntu for a combination of Mint and Ubuntu. It's got the Mint Windows like front end, with Ubuntu in the back. Most help online is for Ubuntu anyway.

    https://distrosea.com/select/ubuntucinnamon/

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    Sounds like Mint but worse.

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      And I now I use Linux. Will never go back to Windows after this nonsense.

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        Hi from a Thinkpad T14 G1 running LMDE, as god intended

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        "In the name of our Lord I implore thee to embrace Linux Mint. For it is a software that shall free thy computer from its earthly shackles and grant thee access to infinite knowledge of the cosmos."

        John 5.11

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          DoN't YOu gUyS hAvE TPM?
          Hilarious.

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          Tpm I do have, the annoying thing is secureboot I need to enable to play league on win11 and that wont work with when dual booting with my main os linux.
          I hate win11 so much man

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            If you are living on the coast and the water is rising due to climate change, just sell your house and move.

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            At least with OS you have a choice.

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              Hi from a Thinkpad T14 G1 running LMDE, as god intended

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              Arch heretic here (long time Mint user).

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                everyone who talks about linux seems to be a programmer /coder, and uses jargon that i don't even understand

                I've been pointing that out for a while, but unfortunately there is a vocal subset of the community that thinks referring people to just read technical manuals is fine (if you can't, just learn to read it, duh).

                Some things are concepts you'll learn easily, don't worry, and for the rest, you'll always find someone willing to break it down if you manage to look past the snobs. If you want, shoot me a DM if you just want to understand a specific term without someone making you feel like an idiot.

                The problem is there are a billion versions of linux, idk what one to choose

                There are plenty of suggestions here. Ubuntu is what got me started and I still think it's a good start*. Mint is from the same family, "Pop! OS" too (the name sounds silly to me, but it's legit and popular for a reason). Just look at pictures and see what seems prettiest to you, then go with that. The usage won't be too different.
                The grandpa of that family is Debian, but I'm not sure it's quite as user-friendly out of the box. I'm mentioning it in case you come across the term.

                The other big families are Fedora and Arch. I personally use a Fedora-Child, but to keep things narrow, I recommend the three mentioned above as starters.

                * If you come across people hating Ubuntu - including myself - it's usually for ideological reasons rather than usability ones. Don't worry about that for now. Getting into the weeds of things is a skill you don't have yet and that's perfectly fine.

                if i can play my steam games on linux

                Steam, fortunately, is the one platform that works best with Linux. For their handheld, they decided to flip off MS and made their own Linux, along with a wrapper tool to make all the games run on it anyway.

                You may hear the terms "compatibility layer", "Proton" and "wine", which is exactly that: A tool to make Windows stuff run on Linux. Again, don't worry about the specifics, just believe me: I'm playing almost all of my steam games just as I used to.

                If there is a specific game you care about, https://www.protondb.com/ has a large store of knowledge. Some things run out of the box, some may require a few extra settings that are usually easy to add, and if there ever is a thing you don't understand, my offer stands.

                The whole idea of moving to linux is overwhelming.

                It's a scary plunge, a leap of faith, but I assure you: There are people ready to catch you at the bottom. The reception wasn't as warm when I jumped off of Win7, and the snobs are still around, but things have improved a lot over the past few years. Trust me, trust us: You won't be left alone.

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                The fact that people HAD to learn to use Windows, too. It's just in the past and appears easy because they already can. If a person used computers with Linux from the start, it would be as easy for them as for Windows users.

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                  I don't know anything about Lightroom or what similar software would be, so unfortunately I won't be much help. But I hope you can find a decent alternative.

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                  Basically Lightroom is for editing photos in a specific format, there's a couple alternatives that work well on Linux. Primarily Darktable and RawTherapee.

                  It's really good at what it does and is basically an industry standard.

                  But Adobe being Adobe I really want to stop giving them money but I need to replace it first.

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                    The problem is there are a billion versions of linux, idk what one to choosex idk if i can play my steam games on linux, everyone who talks about linux seems to be a programmer /coder, and uses jargon that i don't even understand, so idk if I'll even be able to USE linux. And if I ask any questions I feel like it's all gonna end up sounsing like another language to me.

                    The whole idea of moving to linux is overwhelming.

                    But I'm starting to hate windows 11. And fuck Apple all together.

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                    Install Linux Mint Cinnamon. You don't need to be a coder and there is a discord for any tech support needs

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                      If you are living on the coast and the water is rising due to climate change, just sell your house and move.

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                      Sell their houses to who, Ben? Fucking Aquaman?!

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                        Try them here: https://distrosea.com/

                        I suggest Cinnamon Ubuntu for a combination of Mint and Ubuntu. It's got the Mint Windows like front end, with Ubuntu in the back. Most help online is for Ubuntu anyway.

                        https://distrosea.com/select/ubuntucinnamon/

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                        Mint is Ubuntu with cinnamon minus snap +user friendliness

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                            And I now I use Linux. Will never go back to Windows after this nonsense.

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                            I made the jump recently, too, after having to use W11 for my studies... Figured that the one multiplayer game I play that actually needs Windows to work (and that's purely because the dev's won't enable anticheat on Linux) is not too much of a sacrifice when the alternative would be giving out the possibility to tune the OS to my liking.

                            Bye bye Windows, you were "great" during XP and W7 times!

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                              I'm imagining me doing this to my building of elderly, it dies and then opening my eyes to 40 work orders. Lmao

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                              Why not install Linux for them once Windows 10 is dead?

                              They are a prime candidate for a dead simple Linux distro with the "Web", "Mail" and "Documents" shortcuts on the desktop and nothing else. Can't get a virus, can't get scammed by fake Microsoft support and most won't even notice.

                              I have installed Fedora Kinoite for my mom and have had zero complaints.

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                                Sell their houses to who, Ben? Fucking Aquaman?!

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                                Hbomberguy is so based

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                                  I can't recall ever trying it with peanut butter, that sounds interesting

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                                  Probably higher performance than the stock thermal paste

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                                    everyone who talks about linux seems to be a programmer /coder, and uses jargon that i don't even understand

                                    I've been pointing that out for a while, but unfortunately there is a vocal subset of the community that thinks referring people to just read technical manuals is fine (if you can't, just learn to read it, duh).

                                    Some things are concepts you'll learn easily, don't worry, and for the rest, you'll always find someone willing to break it down if you manage to look past the snobs. If you want, shoot me a DM if you just want to understand a specific term without someone making you feel like an idiot.

                                    The problem is there are a billion versions of linux, idk what one to choose

                                    There are plenty of suggestions here. Ubuntu is what got me started and I still think it's a good start*. Mint is from the same family, "Pop! OS" too (the name sounds silly to me, but it's legit and popular for a reason). Just look at pictures and see what seems prettiest to you, then go with that. The usage won't be too different.
                                    The grandpa of that family is Debian, but I'm not sure it's quite as user-friendly out of the box. I'm mentioning it in case you come across the term.

                                    The other big families are Fedora and Arch. I personally use a Fedora-Child, but to keep things narrow, I recommend the three mentioned above as starters.

                                    * If you come across people hating Ubuntu - including myself - it's usually for ideological reasons rather than usability ones. Don't worry about that for now. Getting into the weeds of things is a skill you don't have yet and that's perfectly fine.

                                    if i can play my steam games on linux

                                    Steam, fortunately, is the one platform that works best with Linux. For their handheld, they decided to flip off MS and made their own Linux, along with a wrapper tool to make all the games run on it anyway.

                                    You may hear the terms "compatibility layer", "Proton" and "wine", which is exactly that: A tool to make Windows stuff run on Linux. Again, don't worry about the specifics, just believe me: I'm playing almost all of my steam games just as I used to.

                                    If there is a specific game you care about, https://www.protondb.com/ has a large store of knowledge. Some things run out of the box, some may require a few extra settings that are usually easy to add, and if there ever is a thing you don't understand, my offer stands.

                                    The whole idea of moving to linux is overwhelming.

                                    It's a scary plunge, a leap of faith, but I assure you: There are people ready to catch you at the bottom. The reception wasn't as warm when I jumped off of Win7, and the snobs are still around, but things have improved a lot over the past few years. Trust me, trust us: You won't be left alone.

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                                    there is a vocal subset of the community that thinks referring people to just read technical manuals is fine

                                    I mean, I agree, it's not ideal. Just to point out though.... Windows is also not really well documented, and if you have an issue that's a bit on the unusual side? You can find yourself skimming forums for days, or just saying fuck it and reinstalling. There's definitely more information out there on Windows troubleshooting, but it has market dominance and it would be insane if there wasn't loads out there.

                                    If you come across people hating Ubuntu - including myself - it's usually for ideological reasons rather than usability ones.

                                    Yeah, fuck canonical! Shame they make a fairly decent and stable distro......

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                                      I would, except there's always some software or some feature missing. And there's always the FOSS app that "might" meet "some" aspects of what native software does but it's almost always never "native" support.

                                      Sure, I know I can play MOST games on Linux, but I know for a fact they'll launch on windows.

                                      Or things like, sure, I know that my corsair Hardware MIGHT be controlled by signal RGB, but what about controlling the pump in my AIO? Or the sound levels on ny headset? Or the DPI in my mouse?

                                      Then you have things like drivers. I'm not using any Nvidia GPUs right now, but the nvidia support for Linux is atrocious and you lose access to things like RTX-HDR and RTX Voice, and hell, even in AMD you lose access to certain features like AMFM2.

                                      Then the software, not only does things like Adobe or Office just don't exist, the FOSS solutions are not industry standard, so sure, I can learn to use LibreOffice, but that's worth absolutely nothing when you apply for a corporate job and they expect you to know how to use outlook as a bare minimum, hell, even the Google office suite is being adopted faster.... Ah, but if the software is available there's still a chance it doesn't work because it's missing a dependency or something and you have to ask people to use the terminal and... Sigh

                                      All in all, it's just behind in many ways, sure, for some people it's ok, and for laptops I'd think is mostly ok, great even. But I know I could deal with Linux, and I don't want to troubleshoot a whole PC to play a game when I already spend the whole day dealing with solving issues or servers or services on my job.

                                      I'm rooting for Steam OS to release to desktops because my living room PC is LITERALLY just for gaming, so that "could" work nicely.

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                                      Hardware MIGHT be controlled by signal RGB

                                      OpenRGB to the rescue: https://flathub.org/apps/org.openrgb.OpenRGB

                                      controlling the pump in my AIO?

                                      What do you need to control about your pump? I sure hope it works without OS support.

                                      Or the sound levels on ny headset?

                                      Move the volume slider up or down?

                                      Or the DPI in my mouse?

                                      Save them to the mouse as profile if it can or use Piper: https://flathub.org/apps/org.freedesktop.Piper

                                      in AMD you lose access to certain features like AMFM2

                                      FSR Frame Gen works just fine, not sure why you need fake frames in more games.

                                      the FOSS solutions are not industry standard, so sure, I can learn to use LibreOffice, but that's worth absolutely nothing when you apply for a corporate job and they expect you to know how to use outlook as a bare minimum

                                      There is also OnlyOffice and online MS Office. Not sure what you need to know about Outlook to open it and use your eyes to read the mails.

                                      even the Google office suite is being adopted faster

                                      Good news, it runs in a browser and works on every OS!

                                      Ah, but if the software is available there's still a chance it doesn't work because it's missing a dependency or something and you have to ask people to use the terminal and... Sigh

                                      I have not fixed dependencies issue on Linux since the early 2000s. Flatpaks are your friend https://flathub.org/ .

                                      All in all, it's just behind in many ways, sure, for some people it's ok, and for laptops I'd think is mostly ok, great even.

                                      I run it on my high end PC and I disagree. It's ahead in many ways.

                                      • The graphics drivers are included and don't need any bloated software to work
                                      • It has a banger OpenGL driver, which makes games like Minecraft run significantly faster.
                                      • It has a very active community for game support for games where the developer does not care
                                      • It translates older DirectX versions to Vulkan automatically, resulting in a performance uplift and more stability. People on Windows are installing DXVK just so older games work. Look up DXVK in the Steam forums.
                                      • It downloads shader caches from Valve, preventing shader stutter in games that don't do it on their own

                                      That list could go on for a while and it's only for gaming.

                                      I haven't even gone into installation and not having to run ShutUp10 every time just to make the OS usable. Or how KDE is so much cleaner than Windows. Or how I don't have any ads in my start menu, don't have to force download Candy Crush on first boot, don't have pre-installed apps I can't remove, don't have to block my own OS in its firewall to get rid of telemetry, don't have to be told that I need to upgrade to Windows 11 constantly.

                                      For work: Docker just works, complex networking setups are not a pain to setup, creating VMs is so much easier and has so many more features. VPN is so seamlessly setup. I can read almost every file system on the planet and use ROCm without jumping through hoops. Not to mention I don't get Copilot and Recall shoved down my throat.

                                      Are there issues on Linux? Sure, lots of them. But if I find them I can tell somebody about it and don't have to deal with them for centuries.

                                      I'm rooting for Steam OS to release to desktops because my living room PC is LITERALLY just for gaming, so that "could" work nicely.

                                      SteamOS is just a modern Linux distro with Steam pre-installed and in autostart. If stuff works there, it works on regular Linux just as well.

                                      Bazzite achieves the same thing right now: https://bazzite.gg/

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                                        Someone has to say it: I bought a MacBook!

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                                        So you went from a 10 year upgrade cycle to a 7 year upgrade cycle?

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                                          Hbomberguy is so based

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                                          I want you to know a few things. First, you saved me a Google, so I appreciate that. Second, I am working overtime to support a department that isn't working at the moment, and so I have very little to do. (Long story) I was real excited to slap on my headphones and listen to an hour and a half long rant about fallout 3, only to discover that I left them at home. And so I am terribly disappointed.

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