What people online think I drive when I mention owning a pickup truck versus what I actually drive
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The Subaru forester sedans were very popular in New England from the early 200s to like 2014. Idk just saying there are good option, there were even diesel wagons from WV that had solid efficiency later on .
I've been thinking about replacing my 2005 car but the only thing I want to replace it with is an electric station wagon, of which Europe has several options and America has 0. I don't want a compact SUV, I just want a wagon! I'll probably leave the country before I have any options lol
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I did the same when a coworker showed up with an F350 crew cab 6.5ft bed. Lifted, offroad lights, cb antenna, diesel (which is the HD option in the US). He lives in the suburbs and pays laborers for everything. So I plopped my dutiful little Mazda B2300 next to it (Ranger) that regularly hauls a little bit of wood.
Guaranteed he bitches about gas/diesel prices too.
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Unpopular opinion: unless you regularly haul things, you don't need a truck of any size. Unless you regularly go off-road or are transporting 5+ people and a dog or more, you don't need an SUV. You can rent one of those for the rare times you need it! And in the meantime, you'll save gas money and pedestrian deaths will go down...
If you haul anything pickup trucks are laughably bad to do so.
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I will never understand why truck owners love backing into stalls.
Regardless of the vehicle, It's overall safer.
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I've been thinking about replacing my 2005 car but the only thing I want to replace it with is an electric station wagon, of which Europe has several options and America has 0. I don't want a compact SUV, I just want a wagon! I'll probably leave the country before I have any options lol
Station wagons are for mommies in the 1980s; all the cool kids want SUV and pickups.
So car manufacturers made station wagons with upright seating positions and “off road” styling and called them Crossovers.
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Station wagons are for mommies in the 1980s; all the cool kids want SUV and pickups.
So car manufacturers made station wagons with upright seating positions and “off road” styling and called them Crossovers.
Yeah, my car I always though was a hatchback, but apparently is actually classified as a crossover. The main reason I still have it (other than having been paid off) is because it still gets competitive mpg and it's so practical. I used it to take all my crap to and from college. I can carry 9ft lumber in the cabin with the passenger seat down. I've gone on a service road in a state park and I didn't get stuck.
The thought has crossed my mind to get an electric conversion for it instead of buying a new spyware riddled car
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If you haul anything pickup trucks are laughably bad to do so.
Modern pickups are bad. Old pickups were fantastic for "I need to pile a bunch of (insert thing here) in the back."
But now every pickup is a massive motor for a tiny truckbed that my ford focus wagon has better hauling capacity.
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Sorry that 'murican fattism has reached you
I don't mind. I'm a car guy myself, and I like them in all shapes and sizes. I'd probably drive one too if I lived in the US, but over here they're just way too big and impractical not to mention they stick out in traffic like a sore thumb and, quite frankly, make you look kind of like a douche.
They're way too big here too we're just replacing infrastructure to satisfy thousands of people's penis envy instead of telling people no.
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So I plopped my dutiful little Mazda B2300 next to it (Ranger) that regularly hauls a little bit of wood.
My truck has the same engine as the Ford Pinto and that's the way I likes it!
iTs A liMa blah blah blah pinto, lima, it's beans inside, this is beans
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Guaranteed he bitches about gas/diesel prices too.
He didn't buy it for MPGs, he bought it to complain about $/gals
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All absolutely valid points and my only counter argument here is that is why wagon sedans exist. Growing up in Poland a wagon was the family hauler bringing all the stuff you mentioned to pretty much anywhere you need. People even haul rvs with the wagons and you’re still smaller and relatively more pedestrian friendly. Hell they even make performance cars in wagon spec like the bmw m3. Not saying that to discredit your point just that there was another option before the suv craze came about
...wagons nearly don't exist anymore in the US market, but i concur: hatchbacks, wagons, and minivans are purpose-designed vehicles for the way people use them in the real world, whereas modern trucks and SUVs are overwhelmingly poseur props for families in denial of their suburban utility lifestyle...
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I just looked up the dimensions of that thing and it has 10cm (3inch) shorter bed than mine. How you even manage to pull that off with a truck that big is beyond me.
These brodozers aren't used for anything useful. I like having 4' between the wheelwells and a box long enough to get a full toolbox across the front of the box and still get a 1000L fertilizer tote in it. And low enough that I can climb in the box without a ladder.
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we have reached a time when the normal size vehicle is called a compact
There's a reason there are "full-size" pickups. The box is 49" wide at the narrowest point across the wheelwells so you can fit full sheets in it. There have been compact pickups for a long, long time (Toyota), but they're narrower than fullsize and you have to build a deck in them above the wheels to get full sheets in. Sometimes even then you have troubles.
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If I remember correctly; around 2% of the cars sold in the US were wagons and of that, like 1.5% were Subarus.
I've owned two of them!
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It's so stupid, if you actually need a small truck your options are to buy used basically.
We just need a couple small (easy to navigate in cities, good on gas) 4wd trucks on the market. You're basically stuck in Ford Transitsright now, which they've just stopped making, or buying 20yr old Mazdas and Rangers. Or being forced into the same F150s every other fleet operator has. I know the market for these vehicles exists (though demand is low) why does no manufacturer try to fill it?
...manufacturers cater to the compact + economy truck market overseas but protectionist tariffs pretty much give them a captive market for luxury yank tanks stateside; your best bet for something new is finding it in puerto rico and paying the premium to ship it across the gulf...
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I will never understand why truck owners love backing into stalls.
Ass end can hang over the grass behind the curb, and you can see when you pull out so you don't run over anyone's kid. Pretty obviously.
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They are starting to at least make some more reasonable vehicles. Not exactly small but not the oversized monsters.
Ford Maverick, Honda Ridgeline, Hyundai Santa Cruz, Chevy Colorado, GMC Canyon, etc.
Honestly if the towing capacity was more I would have gotten the Maverick instead of the F150 for work. Sadly it can only haul 7,000lbs and I haul around a 10,000 GVW trailer all the time. The F150 in got cancelled haul 13K.
...i'm not sure they're actually made any differently; everything in europe gets a dramatically greater tow rating...
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Ass end can hang over the grass behind the curb, and you can see when you pull out so you don't run over anyone's kid. Pretty obviously.
My experience is that their ass end ends up hanging over the sidewalk, and the tow hook takes an extra foot or so.
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Unpopular opinion: unless you regularly haul things, you don't need a truck of any size. Unless you regularly go off-road or are transporting 5+ people and a dog or more, you don't need an SUV. You can rent one of those for the rare times you need it! And in the meantime, you'll save gas money and pedestrian deaths will go down...
unless you regularly haul things, you don’t need a truck of any size. Unless you regularly go off-road or are transporting 5+ people and a dog or more, you don’t need an SUV. You can rent one of those for the rare times you need it!
Maybe... but why not go further?
Unless you regularly transport more than 1 person, you don't need a car. You can rent one of those for the rare times you need it!
Buy a motorcycle or bike instead?
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He didn't buy it for MPGs, he bought it to complain about $/gals
I don't understand I maxed out my credit to buy this thing, drive and look like a douchebag and girls STILL avoid me?!?
