How Gamergate foreshadowed the toxic hellscape that the internet has now become.
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That and 8chan. Did we all collectively forget about 8chan? Functionally, I was hoping it would be like lemmy. It quickly turned into a place where every racist, violent, pedophile trickled to when they get deplatformed. Now they just use facebook.
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That's the problem with 'deplatforming.'
The crazies migrate to another platform and then that platform gets bigger and crazier and perhaps eventually competes with the original, more mainstream platforms.
We need some sort of "immune system" to handle these extremes, deplatforming is kinda like moving the disease to another part of the body where there is no "immune system". Defederating might create the same effect.
I don't know how to handle it, but we might need more "normal" average people participating in a compassionate understanding way, with those that have lost their way. Because right now there are plenty of Russian bots that encourage the wildest conspiracies and world views, but also plenty of people with idle time on their hands encouraging it also.
We will meet this challenge more and more as the fediverse grows. At this moment it's not worth the investment to spread misinformation probably.
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Gamergate was at least easy to ignore. I still don't really know what it was about. Always seemed like pointless internet drama to me. That may or may not be true but it hasn't been a problem to stay ignorant about the topic. You can't ignore what's happening now unless you don't use the internet at all and even that isn't going to be completely effective.
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That and 8chan. Did we all collectively forget about 8chan? Functionally, I was hoping it would be like lemmy. It quickly turned into a place where every racist, violent, pedophile trickled to when they get deplatformed. Now they just use facebook.
We even forgot about Twitter during Trump‘s campaign and first term. No way anyone remembers 8Chan.
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We need some sort of "immune system" to handle these extremes, deplatforming is kinda like moving the disease to another part of the body where there is no "immune system". Defederating might create the same effect.
I don't know how to handle it, but we might need more "normal" average people participating in a compassionate understanding way, with those that have lost their way. Because right now there are plenty of Russian bots that encourage the wildest conspiracies and world views, but also plenty of people with idle time on their hands encouraging it also.
We will meet this challenge more and more as the fediverse grows. At this moment it's not worth the investment to spread misinformation probably.
It might also be necessary to find new ways of discussion that do not favor short, emotionally impactful but factually wrong arguments so much. Our political discussions tend to have a lot of repetition all over the place anyway that is a waste of our collective time.
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Lowtax banning hentai on something awful was the catalyst for the acceleration of fascism in the US.
At least he took the fascist's way out.
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We need some sort of "immune system" to handle these extremes, deplatforming is kinda like moving the disease to another part of the body where there is no "immune system". Defederating might create the same effect.
I don't know how to handle it, but we might need more "normal" average people participating in a compassionate understanding way, with those that have lost their way. Because right now there are plenty of Russian bots that encourage the wildest conspiracies and world views, but also plenty of people with idle time on their hands encouraging it also.
We will meet this challenge more and more as the fediverse grows. At this moment it's not worth the investment to spread misinformation probably.
PieFed has not merely several but MANY concepts along these lines.
Lemmy, for ah... "reasons", seems to have none. In fact, having a modlog but no modmail, nor any type of active notification of a moderation event occuring (e.g. content removal, locking, or banning), nor any method of asking whoever removed the content why (worse: the modlog used to say the account name that did so, but now merely says "mod"), there is a very compelling argument to say that Lemmy is more authoritian than even Reddit is, at least at the end-user level (though not for instance admins or mods).
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Gamergate was at least easy to ignore. I still don't really know what it was about. Always seemed like pointless internet drama to me. That may or may not be true but it hasn't been a problem to stay ignorant about the topic. You can't ignore what's happening now unless you don't use the internet at all and even that isn't going to be completely effective.
I literally did not know about the facts of gamer gate until like two years ago. It was all Twitter bullshit, and that'd why I had no idea what it was. Some of the people involved made a loving out of it is seems.
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Gamergate was at least easy to ignore. I still don't really know what it was about. Always seemed like pointless internet drama to me. That may or may not be true but it hasn't been a problem to stay ignorant about the topic. You can't ignore what's happening now unless you don't use the internet at all and even that isn't going to be completely effective.
Gamergate was at least easy to ignore.
Except if you're a woman and operated in gaming spaces.
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I literally did not know about the facts of gamer gate until like two years ago. It was all Twitter bullshit, and that'd why I had no idea what it was. Some of the people involved made a loving out of it is seems.
Yeah I heard some stuff about it at the time but not much. About 5 years later I started reading an article about it but only got like 2 paragraphs in before I remembered why I never paid attention to it the first time around and quit reading.
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Gamergate was at least easy to ignore.
Except if you're a woman and operated in gaming spaces.
Which I'm not so yeah, it was pretty easy.
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I literally did not know about the facts of gamer gate until like two years ago. It was all Twitter bullshit, and that'd why I had no idea what it was. Some of the people involved made a loving out of it is seems.
Some of the people involved made a living out of it is seems.
Like that animated chunk of rotten Spam, Bannon.
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We need some sort of "immune system" to handle these extremes, deplatforming is kinda like moving the disease to another part of the body where there is no "immune system". Defederating might create the same effect.
I don't know how to handle it, but we might need more "normal" average people participating in a compassionate understanding way, with those that have lost their way. Because right now there are plenty of Russian bots that encourage the wildest conspiracies and world views, but also plenty of people with idle time on their hands encouraging it also.
We will meet this challenge more and more as the fediverse grows. At this moment it's not worth the investment to spread misinformation probably.
Neutralizing a few troll farms would be a good start.
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It might also be necessary to find new ways of discussion that do not favor short, emotionally impactful but factually wrong arguments so much. Our political discussions tend to have a lot of repetition all over the place anyway that is a waste of our collective time.
This isn't about debating tactics, this is about power.
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I met a gamergate weirdo on Lemmy today
It's crazy and sad that they still exist. That shit was a decade ago.
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Gamergate was at least easy to ignore. I still don't really know what it was about. Always seemed like pointless internet drama to me. That may or may not be true but it hasn't been a problem to stay ignorant about the topic. You can't ignore what's happening now unless you don't use the internet at all and even that isn't going to be completely effective.
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This isn't about debating tactics, this is about power.
Convincing a lot of people you are correct is a form of power.
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It's crazy and sad that they still exist. That shit was a decade ago.
In a time when I read this kind of news on Gamespot or GameSpy. G8tv and a lot of convention goers that became internet famous before twitch existed. The "gamergate" news happened at the worst time in the gaming industry where game reviewers were bribed for a 10/10 clipart seal. And the shady stuff happening with cosplay cons... Etc it only concerned people in the business.
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Which I'm not so yeah, it was pretty easy.
I read your comment as 'not yet' so i was concerned about the down votes till i reread it.
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