Hundreds of Gazans march in rare anti-Hamas protest
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Yes, I did click through to the findings PDF and carefully looked at how the questions were worded.
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For Israelis peace means not getting attacked any more by any of their neighbours.
If that were true they would’ve had peace long ago. https://decolonizepalestine.com/myth/israel-has-always-sought-peace/
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Just a reminder that Israel already left willingly in the past.
And control gazans water, literally claim any water even rain water, and their ability to build anything.
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Good they are breaking.
That's pretty gross
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This is patently false. Netanyahu has an abysmal approval rating and something like 70% want a ceasefire.
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Good they are breaking.
They are literally not even resisting. Israel has been bombing humans in a barrel for 18 months.
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In a rare event in the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip, hundreds of Gazan citizens marched in the northern town of Beit Lahiya carrying white flags, calling to end the Hamas rule, and even calling to hand over the Israeli hostages.
The protests took place in front of the Indonesian Hospital in the northern part of the Gaza Strip. One protester who filmed the events questioned where Qatari Al Jazeera and its Gaza correspondent Anas al-Sharif are, implicitly referring to the channel’s no criticism of Hamas policy.
people are demanding the press to cover these events!” he said. “People are demanding freedom, they’re demanding a halt to the hostilities against Gaza, they’re demanding peace and an end to this war.” One of them said, “The press entered the hospital so as to not document this event.”
Slogans shouted in the protest included “Out out out! Hamas out!” and “Where is the press?” and “We want to live!” Signs held by protesters included slogans such as “We refuse to be the ones who die” and “Stop the war.”
Another video showed hundreds of marchers walking in the streets of Beit Lahiya, with the cameraman saying: “Large crowds are protesting now against the rule of Hamas. The situation in Gaza is catastrophic. The people here are calling to free the prisoners so we can remain alive,” possibly referring to the remaining Israeli hostages.
fuck hamas but for Israel hamas is just an excuse not the end goal.
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Just a reminder that Israel already left willingly in the past.
Is this what Israel leaving looks like? wow...
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I have never understood why people are so unequivocal and quick to take sides in this conflict. Either people insist on "No criticism of Hamas" or "No criticism of Israel". It has always seemed clear to me that both the Israeli people and the Palestinian people are victims of their and each other's respective warmongering hardline governments. It is possible for both sides to be completely in the wrong, and arguing about which is "more wrong" and trying to tally up historical injustices to debate who has the biggest total is fruitless and counterproductive. Until both sides are willing to admit they've been wrong and done wrong to each other and accept that very justified criticism, the violence is never going to end. Criticism of both sides is not only deserved it is necessary and probably the only answer. Both sides need to be forced to take responsibility for what they've each done wrong instead of justifying and defending it and acting like they're completely innocent before this is ever going to have a chance at resolution.
The only conclusion I can draw is that some people REALLY don't want it to ever have a peaceful resolution, and I think that's probably closest to the actual truth of the situation. Really sickening and sad, for everyone victimized by this conflict. And I'm not even going to start getting into all the various foreign governments "supporting" both these sides. These are the ones who don't want it to ever have a peaceful resolution, I suspect.
I am hoping that maybe these protests are at least a sign that Gazans are willing to start vocally criticizing Hamas' role in perpetuating this violence. Now for us to be getting somewhere we'd need to start to see the same from the Israeli people too. But I'm not holding my breath. These protest efforts may be too little too late. Israel is clearly the better equipped and supported regime here; globally we seem to be returning to the horrible principle of "might makes right". As we know history is written by the victor, and genocide is an unfortunately practical and well-tested way of silencing your critics.
Initially I had a similar view until I learned of the following 3 things:
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Palestinians signing the Oslo after which the Israeli prime minister was assassinated by an Israeli ultranationalist.
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The Palestinian government in the West Bank put down their weapons and still get attached by settlers and the IDF and imprisoned with essentially no rights.
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The Israelis are literally murdering them by the hundreds
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fuck hamas but for Israel hamas is just an excuse not the end goal.
Doesn't help that the IDF knew the attack was coming. They let their civilians get killed and captured so they had an excuse.
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This is patently false. Netanyahu has an abysmal approval rating and something like 70% want a ceasefire.
His approval ratings were low and falling well before the start of this onslaught. He is using this "war" as a way to stay in power for longer and to not face the various criminal charges against him.
Wanting a ceasefire does not mean they want a free Palestine.
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Here's hoping these protests become a daily occurrence and they're finally able to give Hamas the boot.
The destruction of Gaza would have resulted in new Hamas recruits several times the number of this little protest.
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In a rare event in the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip, hundreds of Gazan citizens marched in the northern town of Beit Lahiya carrying white flags, calling to end the Hamas rule, and even calling to hand over the Israeli hostages.
The protests took place in front of the Indonesian Hospital in the northern part of the Gaza Strip. One protester who filmed the events questioned where Qatari Al Jazeera and its Gaza correspondent Anas al-Sharif are, implicitly referring to the channel’s no criticism of Hamas policy.
people are demanding the press to cover these events!” he said. “People are demanding freedom, they’re demanding a halt to the hostilities against Gaza, they’re demanding peace and an end to this war.” One of them said, “The press entered the hospital so as to not document this event.”
Slogans shouted in the protest included “Out out out! Hamas out!” and “Where is the press?” and “We want to live!” Signs held by protesters included slogans such as “We refuse to be the ones who die” and “Stop the war.”
Another video showed hundreds of marchers walking in the streets of Beit Lahiya, with the cameraman saying: “Large crowds are protesting now against the rule of Hamas. The situation in Gaza is catastrophic. The people here are calling to free the prisoners so we can remain alive,” possibly referring to the remaining Israeli hostages.
Why are links to this trash website even allowed
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In a rare event in the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip, hundreds of Gazan citizens marched in the northern town of Beit Lahiya carrying white flags, calling to end the Hamas rule, and even calling to hand over the Israeli hostages.
The protests took place in front of the Indonesian Hospital in the northern part of the Gaza Strip. One protester who filmed the events questioned where Qatari Al Jazeera and its Gaza correspondent Anas al-Sharif are, implicitly referring to the channel’s no criticism of Hamas policy.
people are demanding the press to cover these events!” he said. “People are demanding freedom, they’re demanding a halt to the hostilities against Gaza, they’re demanding peace and an end to this war.” One of them said, “The press entered the hospital so as to not document this event.”
Slogans shouted in the protest included “Out out out! Hamas out!” and “Where is the press?” and “We want to live!” Signs held by protesters included slogans such as “We refuse to be the ones who die” and “Stop the war.”
Another video showed hundreds of marchers walking in the streets of Beit Lahiya, with the cameraman saying: “Large crowds are protesting now against the rule of Hamas. The situation in Gaza is catastrophic. The people here are calling to free the prisoners so we can remain alive,” possibly referring to the remaining Israeli hostages.
If such demands are met and Hamas is removed from Gaza make no mistake, the Gazan people will be the next thing they remove from Gaza.
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Why are links to this trash website even allowed
Something about not guiding public opinion or stuff like that
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Doesn't help that the IDF knew the attack was coming. They let their civilians get killed and captured so they had an excuse.
Worse, the IDF was under orders to expand the Hannibal Protocol to civilians the whole time, too.
Hannibal Protocol is the order to kill Israelis rather than allow them to become hostages.
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Is this what Israel leaving looks like? wow...
Hub, I wonder what happened that made them come back?
Try 'murdering and kidnapping hundreds of Israeli citizens' for a start. -
Hub, I wonder what happened that made them come back?
Try 'murdering and kidnapping hundreds of Israeli citizens' for a start.Nothing feeds extreme islam like blowing people's loved ones into pieces in front of their eyes and destroying their livelihoods. So they sure know how to make this perpetuate.
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I mean, sure, it's an ethnic conflict with a bunch of bad blood on both sides. That's a bit of a whataboutism, though, since this was about whether most Israelis want peace.
If you directly asked Palestinians and Israelis if they want peace, the vast majority would answer either yes. The conditions of what’s considered a viable peace is different.
The two state solution was favored among Israelis during the peace process up to the second intifada. Afterwards an increasing number of Israelis rejected two states as unrealistic because they didn’t see a willing partner on the Palestinian side. Put it another way, many Israelis don’t believe a Palestinian state would actually bring peace. The withdrawal from Gaza and the continued attacks on Israel from Gaza over the last decades is seen as an example of that.
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First, that's irrelevant because it's Israel holding all the power in their Apartheid and genocide project. Second, no I won't. You compare and make your own point.
https://www.pcpsr.org/en/node/991
But when asked about support or opposition to the establishment of an independent Palestinian state in the territories occupied in 1967, i.e. defining the borders of the state and without linking it to the two-state solution, support rises to 59% (60% in the West Bank and 59% in the Gaza Strip), while 37% do not support the establishment of such a state.
Support for a two-state solution is usually linked to public assessment of the feasibility of such a solution and the chances for a Palestinian state. Today, 57% (compared to 65% three months ago) believe that the two-state solution is no longer practical due to settlement expansion, but 39% (compared to 34% three months ago) believe it remains practical. Moreover, 69% believe that the chances for the establishment of an independent Palestinian state alongside Israel in the next five years are slim or non-existent and 30% believe the chances are medium or high.
When asked about the public's support or opposition to specific political measures to break the deadlock, 57% supported joining more international organizations, 45% supported resorting to unarmed popular resistance, 51% supported a return to confrontations and armed intifada, 49% supported the dissolution of the Palestinian Authority, and 22% supported abandoning the two-state solution and demanding one state for Palestinians and Israelis. Three months ago, 63% supported a return to confrontations and an armed intifada, 49% supported unarmed popular resistance, 62% supported the dissolution of the PA, and 22% supported abandoning the two-state solution in favor of a one-state solution.
We asked about the public support for three possible solutions to the conflict: the two-state solution based on the 1967 borders, the solution of a confederation between the two states of Palestine and Israel, and a one-state solution in which the Jews and Palestinians live with equality, 51% (49% in the West Bank and 54% in the Gaza Strip) prefer the two-state solution based on the 1967 borders, while 19% (14% in the West Bank and 27% in the Gaza Strip) prefer a confederation between two states. 10% (11% in the West Bank and 9% in the Gaza Strip) prefer the establishment of a single state with equality between the two sides. 21% said they did not know or did not want to answer.
As you can clearly see, the answer percentage depends a lot on what question is asked specifically.
Two state solution also depends a lot on the details. The biggest issue is the so called right of return, which would permit millions of descendants of Palestinian refugees to immigrate into Israel proper. That’s of course unacceptable to Israel.
