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Split Keyboards Are Superior And The Reason I’m The Writer I Am Today.

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    Do you mean the CharaChorder? I thought about getting one in the past bit it looks like a super steep learn curve and I'm not sure if I'm willing to subject myself to it.

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    YES, thank you.

    My brain was stuck on chroma, which made no sense, lol.

    I thought the exact same thing, but the thing is, i switched to a trackball mouse and I will never go back...

    So some times it's worth it.

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    • plutoniumacid@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

      I was the lucky owner of a rare FingerWorks Touchstream keyboard for many years. If you don't know it, it's the precursor to the keyboards used in Star Trek Enterprise.

      It's a keyless keyboard. Two large flat mousepads with a keyboard layout printed on top, and you type by pure touch. There's no mouse; the surface just cleverly detects when you are doing mouse gestures. Or a lot of other gestures.

      Trekkie joke aside, it's actually the magic tech that made the iPhone possible. Of course Apple didn't invent anything, they bought existing future tech.

      I miss that keyboard. They still sell on ebay, for 1400$!

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      Many, many moons ago (must have been around 2006?) I managed to procure a FingerWorks. It was magic, like holding a piece of computing history!

      It allowed a lot of the gestures we take for granted, to switch applications or workspaces, to go back a page, etc. But it also had really cool stuff.
      You could bind gestures like twisting your fingers clockwise to open a file (just like opening a jar!) or counterclockwise to close it. Pinch and zoom for copy and paste.

      I was only able to get a hold on a Dvorak copy. And because the key labels were printed on the board, you couldn't really change the layout. Getting used to a split layout, no keys and Dvorak at the same time was too much and I had to sell it again. But I've been using split keyboards ever since!

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        There is a guy out there developing a mouse less solution so you never have to take your fingers off the keyboard too called www.mouseless.click I'm just waiting for him to release the Windows version. Only on apple atm

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        IDK, a mousetrapper (or similar) effectively does the same but doesn't require retraining your entire workflow and still allows for precision mouse work.

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          Both of mine died lately and I want to get them working again, but qmk is a nightmare I don't want to have to touch again.

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            IDK, a mousetrapper (or similar) effectively does the same but doesn't require retraining your entire workflow and still allows for precision mouse work.

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            I googled mousetrapper but dont understand what it is? Looks like an old school trackpad?

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              I googled mousetrapper but dont understand what it is? Looks like an old school trackpad?

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              It's just a mouse-device that enables full regular mouse control without taking your hands off the keyboard as well. It's not actually a trackpad, it's a mechanical two dimensional scrolling plate (or bar) which is much nicer to use because it provides better feedback than a trackpad.

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                I've used plenty of ergo keyboards and fancy layouts, but as soon as I try to use a regular keyboard I have to re-learn how to type and it really halts any productivity.

                This sort of thing may be nice if you only ever use one computer or you're willing to pack around your keyboard.

                Even still, I never liked ergo boards enough to think it's worth the effort, especially considering being useless on other keyboards once I'm used to ergo.

                Now I just stick to a 75% or TKL. Keeps me versatile.

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                  I find the topic interesting and want to both experiment with the ortholinear and split concepts. But the main thing holding me back is the same reason I am using zsh and not fish: compatibility. I don’t want to confuse myself with two ways of typing when I need to work on another pc and I will not be using a split keyboard on my laptop for example.

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                    I googled mousetrapper but dont understand what it is? Looks like an old school trackpad?

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                    I found this, looks interesting https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q7kjtvNuaHs

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                    • plutoniumacid@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

                      I was the lucky owner of a rare FingerWorks Touchstream keyboard for many years. If you don't know it, it's the precursor to the keyboards used in Star Trek Enterprise.

                      It's a keyless keyboard. Two large flat mousepads with a keyboard layout printed on top, and you type by pure touch. There's no mouse; the surface just cleverly detects when you are doing mouse gestures. Or a lot of other gestures.

                      Trekkie joke aside, it's actually the magic tech that made the iPhone possible. Of course Apple didn't invent anything, they bought existing future tech.

                      I miss that keyboard. They still sell on ebay, for 1400$!

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                      That sounds awful though. There's a reason why touch pads are so unpopular in cars, there's no tactile feedback to the buttons. Part of learning to type is getting a feel for the keys.

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                        Hear me out, take the optic sensor from a mouse and put it on the bottom of one of those boards. Then you wouldn't have to move your hand to use a mouse.

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                          Where's the rest of the keys? Also these things give off Nintendo Power Glove vibes.

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                            I built and configured an Arkenswoop some time in 2023. It's really nice. However... I have gotten quite fast on a conventional keyboard just by using it over the years, and re-learning that is just so tedious. Every time I try, something with a deadline comes up, and I switch back "temporarily".

                            Anyone have experience overcoming this?

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                              Here's what I want: tiny, one handed bluetooth chord keyboard.

                              For typing on my phone. Can someone make one?

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                                I built and configured an Arkenswoop some time in 2023. It's really nice. However... I have gotten quite fast on a conventional keyboard just by using it over the years, and re-learning that is just so tedious. Every time I try, something with a deadline comes up, and I switch back "temporarily".

                                Anyone have experience overcoming this?

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                                I have had to use swedish (various), english, american, french and german keyboards, I have to look at the keyboard when I type 😕

                                Maybe I should just go DVORAK or something and always carry one with me...

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                                  I've used plenty of ergo keyboards and fancy layouts, but as soon as I try to use a regular keyboard I have to re-learn how to type and it really halts any productivity.

                                  This sort of thing may be nice if you only ever use one computer or you're willing to pack around your keyboard.

                                  Even still, I never liked ergo boards enough to think it's worth the effort, especially considering being useless on other keyboards once I'm used to ergo.

                                  Now I just stick to a 75% or TKL. Keeps me versatile.

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                                  TKL FTW BTW!

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                                  • E [email protected]

                                    IDK, a mousetrapper (or similar) effectively does the same but doesn't require retraining your entire workflow and still allows for precision mouse work.

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                                    Oh thanks. I'll look into it!

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                                      I have had to use swedish (various), english, american, french and german keyboards, I have to look at the keyboard when I type 😕

                                      Maybe I should just go DVORAK or something and always carry one with me...

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                                      As somebody who fully switched to Dvorak about 10 years ago, it has its benefits, but man oh man, does it bring out the shitty programmers who don’t realize that anything other than US QWERTY exists.

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                                        I built and configured an Arkenswoop some time in 2023. It's really nice. However... I have gotten quite fast on a conventional keyboard just by using it over the years, and re-learning that is just so tedious. Every time I try, something with a deadline comes up, and I switch back "temporarily".

                                        Anyone have experience overcoming this?

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                                        I switched to a new key layout and was slowed down for like a month, and almost every day I could literally feel myself speeding back up. It was such a cool experience, and one that I imagine has beneficial like neural effects, that sometimes I think about switching it up just for fun.

                                        I'd suggest just sticking with it. I now use English, German, and my custom Workman layout at home without any issue switching between them. Practice makes perfect and cause a bunch of work and fun things encourage typing a lot, practice comes easy and getting back to your normal speed happens quickly.

                                        Picking a new layout like Workman or Dvorak where you can feel the benefits, plus a split keyboard's ergonomic benefits, and I think anyone would struggle to go back (assuming they do it for a month and give it a fair shake).

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                                          Here's what I want: tiny, one handed bluetooth chord keyboard.

                                          For typing on my phone. Can someone make one?

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                                          you can make a ferris sweep. you would just choose which side you'd want and setup your layout with QMK. If you want Bluetooth, just use the nice! Nano controller. A coworker built one. It's tiny, about the size of your hand. He would also carry it around in his pockets and connect through USB to his phone for emails.

                                          The only problem is he customized the hell out of the layout. I think he used Colemak. His layers kinda looked like this:

                                          He said he had trouble using regular keyboards after getting used to it. He always had to carry it around with him.

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