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Greenland visit cancelled after locals refuse to welcome Usha Vance

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    bummer. i was kinda hoping to see them actually denied entry.

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    IMO this is way better. Being denied would have given them a great opportunity to complain about "the Danish government suppressing the will of the Greenlandic people to join the US". The fact that they can come but noone there likes them is so much more devastating for their narrative.

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      Why were they issued visas?

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      No visas are needed between Europe and USA. EU will very soon begin an ESTA-like scheme, but that's not in effect yet. And, since Greenland is not in EU, probably it won't come into effect either.

      Vance could therefore simply appear at the border and the one individual border guard is then alone responsible for deciding whether to allow or refuse entry for USA's vice president.

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        This is the first time I'm learning about the USA's second lady and I did NOT expect her to be a DEI hire /j

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        I guess you could say their wives took the jobs American women didn't want to do.

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          Sorry, I think this was a mistake.

          I think it would have been better for one household to welcome them warmly, say they were proud to have them in their home.

          And when they showed up, sat down, had tea, had 100 greenlanders in with literal torches and pitchforks come in screaming obscenities of every kind and demanding they leave while streaming the whole thing.

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          You don't think diplomatic immunity would apply? I'm sure the secret service would just sit there while a hundred people swarm. Enjoy your fantasy, but that would never happen irl.

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            You don't think diplomatic immunity would apply? I'm sure the secret service would just sit there while a hundred people swarm. Enjoy your fantasy, but that would never happen irl.

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            You don’t think diplomatic immunity would apply?

            "... has just been REVOKED!" and then they shoot her in the head.

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              I’d meet her, so as I could ask her how she can stand by these awful policies …but I’m not a woman. Or from Greenland.

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              • tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyzT [email protected]

                No visas are needed between Europe and USA. EU will very soon begin an ESTA-like scheme, but that's not in effect yet. And, since Greenland is not in EU, probably it won't come into effect either.

                Vance could therefore simply appear at the border and the one individual border guard is then alone responsible for deciding whether to allow or refuse entry for USA's vice president.

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                Greenland is not part of Europe, EU or the Schengen region. No visa or esta is required for entry.

                Greenland is an autonomous territory in the Kingdom of Denmark, Danish Krone is used and Danish is spoken by many, although Greenlandic is more popular.

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                  This is the first time I'm learning about the USA's second lady and I did NOT expect her to be a DEI hire /j

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                  Even more interesting is that her mother (VP Vance's mother-in-law) was instrumental in advancing DEI at the university she works at (UCSD).

                  I would pay a lot of money to see a journalist ask JD Vance if he approves of his mother-in-law's work in promoting DEI. Just knowing how awkward that next family gathering would be would make it worth it.

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                    I like to think they didn't want to meet the Vances because they were afraid for the safety of their couches.

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                      When you're so cringe you don't even know.

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                        Sorry, I think this was a mistake.

                        I think it would have been better for one household to welcome them warmly, say they were proud to have them in their home.

                        And when they showed up, sat down, had tea, had 100 greenlanders in with literal torches and pitchforks come in screaming obscenities of every kind and demanding they leave while streaming the whole thing.

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                        Way too much. Just put a rug over the ice fishing hole in the living room and let the problem take care of itself.

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                          You don't think diplomatic immunity would apply? I'm sure the secret service would just sit there while a hundred people swarm. Enjoy your fantasy, but that would never happen irl.

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                          Diplomatic immunity is in effect only for people invited to the country as diplomats. The ambassador of USA to Finland does not have immunity when he travels to Sweden.

                          What I wonder: what are the laws regarding a person coming to Greenland in order to work there as a worker of a foreign company/organization? Did Vance enter Greenland as a tourist? Since he was working from Greenland's soil without a work visa, was he an illegal immigrant?

                          Three weeks with lights constantly on, amirite?

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                            Maga maga!

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                            It uses dumb!

                            It's not very effective.

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                              Even more interesting is that her mother (VP Vance's mother-in-law) was instrumental in advancing DEI at the university she works at (UCSD).

                              I would pay a lot of money to see a journalist ask JD Vance if he approves of his mother-in-law's work in promoting DEI. Just knowing how awkward that next family gathering would be would make it worth it.

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                              I’d actually pay for a newspaper printing Vance’s mother in laws opinion of her son in law.

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                                Sorry, I think this was a mistake.

                                I think it would have been better for one household to welcome them warmly, say they were proud to have them in their home.

                                And when they showed up, sat down, had tea, had 100 greenlanders in with literal torches and pitchforks come in screaming obscenities of every kind and demanding they leave while streaming the whole thing.

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                                In trumps first week of his first term he invited a dictator here and his security beat the fuck out of American protesters on American soil.

                                Nothing happened. They got on a plane and left.

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                                  You don't think diplomatic immunity would apply? I'm sure the secret service would just sit there while a hundred people swarm. Enjoy your fantasy, but that would never happen irl.

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                                  Diplomatic immunity applies to criminal charges.

                                  This is different, this is not diplomatic in any way, the only issue is that the government is bound to protect foreign dignitaries and foreign citizens.

                                  HOWEVER: a state of hostility can be interpreted, and since there is no formal diplomatic delegation this can be interpreted as a hostile incursion.

                                  In any case, since they have been asked not to come Greenland has 0 obligation to protect them in any way, and they have 0 diplomatic protection as persona non grata.

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                                    Diplomatically, this is as good as it gets, unfortunately.

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                                    And Vance's wife, compared to Trump, Melania, and JD, is exceedingly capable at putting a reasonable face on this shit-stain of a regime, which makes it all the more satisfying that she's being rebuffed the same as any of the others.

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                                      It uses dumb!

                                      It's not very effective.

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                                      It's actually been shockingly effective.

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                                        what the fuck did they expect? a welcoming party to rival none other? With drumpf constantly going on about how he's gonna take greenland? JFC. Fucking morons.

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                                        It wouldn't surprise me if they did think that. They're still stuck on American Exceptionalism and little self awareness. They pretend trump is JFK and we're back in the Camelot era. Let that sink in.

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                                          what the fuck did they expect? a welcoming party to rival none other? With drumpf constantly going on about how he's gonna take greenland? JFC. Fucking morons.

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                                          Putin's men thought Ukrainians would welcome them with open arms too...

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