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DOGE Plans to Rebuild SSA Codebase in Months, Risking Benefits and System Collapse

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  • N [email protected]

    They're not rebuilding anything. They're just adding back doors everywhere. If anyone hasn't learned yet, these are crackpot script kiddies at best. Even If somehow control is take away from them, they are now going to definitely have to redo the entire thing to make sure none of their shit code survives.

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    AT BEST it's gonna be some ridiculous npm svalbard worth of projects in one tree, require all new hardware, and declare bankruptcy on the way. Canada did this with the Phoenix Pay System, except didn't have 'efficient' funding so it only sucked but didn't die.

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      Just adding. This and all the bad things that will happen if they get the green light, is not how this is done or should be done.

      'But all the waste and ineficciency!' Hog wash.

      From the system that is working? and serves thousands of people what they needed every day of every year.

      They have to say it's horribly broken. Its a lie, but they have to justify why.

      There are standards, procurement contracts, entire agency's to make sure ---
      Make sure what?

      March 28, 2025 - Make sure that what will happen, doesn't.


      coda: The trick this cabal is using is simple - take a thing most folk don't understand. Say it's broken. Open it. Rob it. Say its fixed. Collect profits and praise, leave town.

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      • cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zoneC [email protected]

        i hope elon and the entire "doge" team dies. i really do.

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        I hope they all fly around in Boeing aircraft together.

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        • thepowerofgeek@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

          Ah yes, a classic tale...

          "We're going to take this perfectly efficient and functional COBOL code base and rewrite it in Java! And we'll do it in a few months!"

          So many more competent people and organizations than them have already tried this and spectacularly crashed and burned. There's are literal case studies on these types of failed endeavors.

          I bet they'll do it in Waterfall too.

          It's interesting. If they use Grok, this could well be the deathknell for vibe programming (at least for now). It's just fucking traffic that their hubris will cause grief and pain to do many Americans - and cost the lives of more than a few.

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          I've worked on these "cost saving" government rewrites before. The problem is getting decades of domain logic and behavior down to where people can be productive. It takes a lot of care and nuance to do this well.

          Since these nazi pea brains can't even secure a db properly I have my doubts they'll do this successfully.

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          • rikudou@lemmings.worldR [email protected]

            Stupid term for when people who don't know how to program ask AI to generate code for them which they have no expertise to actually validate.

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            Of course Leo has a fish in his PFP

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            • F [email protected]

              Reminds me of that thing Lex Luthor did where he sponged off rounding errors in financial transactions

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              You're thinking of discount Gene Hackman from Superman III: 2 bad 2 crazy

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              • A [email protected]

                Australian here.

                They are robbing you

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                We know. Those of us who are paying attention, anyway.

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                • C [email protected]

                  I'm less than a decade from taking my SS early. I have already downloaded my SS deduction tables from their website in anticipation of them doing something this stupid. "Oh.. you think you are eligible for earned benefits? We can't seem to locate your contribution history... so sorry for you."

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                  I'm on SSDI and VA disability. I can't work. I'm terrified every time they even breath in the direction of either place. I'd be super fucked. Even losing SSDI would destroy us. That's about 3/4 of our mortgage payment. So many other vets are in the same boat.

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                  • T [email protected]

                    AGI is definitely just around the corner! We just need to throw more money and the energy produced by half the country at it!

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                    And work 60hrs a week!

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                      These comments are completely missing the truth.

                      They have zero intention of rebuilding anything, this is just an excuse to destroy SSA ...

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                      • thepowerofgeek@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                        Ah yes, a classic tale...

                        "We're going to take this perfectly efficient and functional COBOL code base and rewrite it in Java! And we'll do it in a few months!"

                        So many more competent people and organizations than them have already tried this and spectacularly crashed and burned. There's are literal case studies on these types of failed endeavors.

                        I bet they'll do it in Waterfall too.

                        It's interesting. If they use Grok, this could well be the deathknell for vibe programming (at least for now). It's just fucking traffic that their hubris will cause grief and pain to do many Americans - and cost the lives of more than a few.

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                        I bet they'll do it in Waterfall too.

                        Nah B. This will be Extreme Agile XP with testing exclusively in Prod. Xitter will be the code repository.

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                          I bet they'll do it in Waterfall too.

                          Nah B. This will be Extreme Agile XP with testing exclusively in Prod. Xitter will be the code repository.

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                          Pair programming with Grok.

                          Spotty DOGE intern developer: "what's a for loop?"

                          Grok: "Look it up yourself, noob! Holy shit do I hate Elon Musk in every fucking way!"

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                          • K [email protected]

                            There are only two reasons softwares goes for decades without being replaced:

                            1. It’s so unimportant that nobody uses it
                            2. It’s so important that the last major bug was squashed 15 years ago
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                            Also : it's very complex and it happens to work fine for decades.

                            If one day i write a code project and manage to make it work without any major issues for several decades, there is no way i attemptto rewrite it.

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                              I've worked on these "cost saving" government rewrites before. The problem is getting decades of domain logic and behavior down to where people can be productive. It takes a lot of care and nuance to do this well.

                              Since these nazi pea brains can't even secure a db properly I have my doubts they'll do this successfully.

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                              well the new rule they will implement are quite simple:

                              IF user wants money AND user is rich THEN accept request ELSE fuck off

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                                This clusterfck has me seriously considering whether taxes are quite as certain as death anymore.

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                                • J [email protected]

                                  Refactoring a code base is kinda like general maintenance for the application. Over time deprecated features, temp fixes, etc. start to be a lot of the code base. By cleaning things up you can make it more maintainable, efficient, etc.

                                  That being said, for systems this large you usually fix up parts of it and iterate over time. Trying to do the whole code base is hard cause it's like replacing the engine while the car is in motion.

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                                  refactor is one thing, rewrite everything in a new language is another thing.

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                                  • Y [email protected]

                                    He can't be this delusional, right? It is almost like he is just trying to inflict damage?

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                                    He's not dellusional, he just don't have a clue of whathe's talking about and just throw around keywords and try to look smart.

                                    As longas you're not familiar with the subject it works well.

                                    remember when he told programers to print some code they wrote previous weeks ? Or when he tried to impress people with his knowledge of PoE2 and Diablo 4 ? Qe has done the same for decades, at spacex and tesla as well.

                                    It's a known fact that SpaceX have an entire eam of full time people whose job is listening to elon bullshit and being the yesmen so he feels validated, then actual engineers take decisions.

                                    IIRC there were the same with tesla and for some reason the system stopped working. And then, the cybertruck happened.

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                                      refactor is one thing, rewrite everything in a new language is another thing.

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                                      Oh yeah, definitely.

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                                        Better shrubs than them have tried and failed. Same as with the ATC system.

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                                          "risking"? No no no. "promising"

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