Organic Maps migrates to Forgejo due to GitHub account blocked by Microsoft.
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I do, what I don't know is how Forgejo works
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I do, what I don't know is how Forgejo works. Doesn't having to make an account for every project mean it's already decentraliced, but just doesn't communicate between instances?
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Its also a really great base project to build on top of. The routing system is a plug in library which can be easily replaced. That means if someone wants to build something that collects and utilizes live data for traffic/construction avoidance they can totally do that. Adding new map layers is also a big one that they made sure is going to be easy to do.
Has anyone actually created a traffic plugin yet? This is one of the main reasons I use Magic Earth still. I regularly bounce between that, Organic, and OsmAnd. They all have slightly different features.
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Whyyy???
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You can import it on an alternative like gitlab. The process of moving something from github to gitlab is just as smooth as if everything was contained in the repo itself.
Personally, recommend forgejo, gitlab has a lot of features I didn't need and I found the upgrade process if you didn't keep on top of it annoying. Forgejo actions are pretty similar to github ones and setting up runners is super straightforward.
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I retired and doing hobby projects in Python and java, so I get choices (including not playing) but wtf, big tech figured out how to take over open source?
That's particularly evil.
They can support these languages because they have the resources to do so.
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Has anyone actually created a traffic plugin yet? This is one of the main reasons I use Magic Earth still. I regularly bounce between that, Organic, and OsmAnd. They all have slightly different features.
Has anyone actually created a traffic plugin yet?
Nah, because the organic team doesnt wanna deal with collecting user data. Getting live location data from millions of people requires using and feeding into google services and thats a no go.
Location data is just too sensitive and impossible to anonymize properly. No matter what you do, there will always be some company that has to collect all the data. That company no matter how cool and FOSS will eventually be forced to cooperate with law enforcement and then you are back to what we have now.
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We need something like Forgejo, but decentralized, like Lemmy. I don't want to create a new account for every Forgejo instance.
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I retired and doing hobby projects in Python and java, so I get choices (including not playing) but wtf, big tech figured out how to take over open source?
That's particularly evil.
A cynical explanation would be using the EEE theory to explain all of this.
A more nuanced one would be that corporations benefit from open source since it creates an easier pipeline to onboard engineers and they also benefit from the free labor that people put into the projects out of passion. Whether they want to kill OSS after embracing it is debatable, but they definitely want to have as much leverage on it as possible.
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I've switched to CalyxOS 6 or 7 months ago, OrganicMaps came with it. I have never looked back.
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Seemingly one of the contributors has visited a disputed region and logged into GitHub from there. By law (export controls) Microsoft must not provide service to that place. So some automatism flagged the account and also the organic maps repo. So far so normal. But either Microsoft dragged it's feet in communicating and resolving the issue or the organic maps team was not doing their part in the process. Doesn't matter, the outcome is still worth it.
What are we, North Korea? We can't accept information from certain countries? I can understand being wary of state-sponsored information terrorism, but "Hey, here's a Cuban road? A good place for a guava and cheese pastry?"
Come on. This was really the trigger?
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I've been testing Zed for the last couple weeks for some Vue / Nuxt projects. It works great for that and seems very stable so far, but is also developed by a for-profit. Curious to see how the Zedless project works out.
I actually think their comments when it first went open source are pretty compelling. I don’t disagree with you and I’m interested to see how zedless fares, but new projects of this scale are tough to do well and quickly. I’m pretty happy with their current approach.
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There is some serious crapitalist hate for organic maps. I never heard of it util is was taken off the play store for a bit. I side loaded it that day.
It works well, and I'm a huge fan and contributor to Open Street Maps (which it's bassed on). But it doesn't do traffic, which is unfortunately wha I need from my navigation apps 99% of the time.
If they had a paid option to cover the costs of using TomTom's traffic API, I'd make the switch.
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A cynical explanation would be using the EEE theory to explain all of this.
A more nuanced one would be that corporations benefit from open source since it creates an easier pipeline to onboard engineers and they also benefit from the free labor that people put into the projects out of passion. Whether they want to kill OSS after embracing it is debatable, but they definitely want to have as much leverage on it as possible.
Bill Gates stated: "One thing we have got to change in our strategy – allowing Office documents to be rendered very well by other people's browsers is one of the most destructive things we could do to the company. We have to stop putting any effort into this and make sure that Office documents very well depend on proprietary IE capabilities. Anything else is suicide for our platform. This is a case where Office has to avoid doing something to destroy Windows."
That Wikipedia is a gold mine of evil.
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Codeberg is a non-profit that has no fees, but accepts donations. They only allow FOSS projects.
Are you talking about Fossil ?
Fossil's commands are just like git's & with the added benefit of having Github-in-a-box -
They can support these languages because they have the resources to do so.
I feel like a good illustration would be a bicycle.
- My bicycle works fine, a little slow, but it beats walking, and requires little to no outside resources or upkeep.
- My neighbor, Joe Microsoft, slaps an 80cc motor on my bike. It's a lot faster, and less work for me, and Joe keeps it full of gas and tuned up, and fixes it when it breaks.
- I need Joe now to support my biking. I no longer have the resources to do it at this level, but Joe does.
Is that about right? Are we selling open source for speed and convenience?
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So why were they blocked.
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We need something like Forgejo, but decentralized, like Lemmy. I don't want to create a new account for every Forgejo instance.
Rather have it on IPFS or something like OrbitDB, so no one can just lock/delete stuff.
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We need something like Forgejo, but decentralized, like Lemmy. I don't want to create a new account for every Forgejo instance.
Git is already decentralized, nothing is stopping you from adding multiple remotes to your repo.
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Anyone have the story behind this? Fuck Microsoft and all that, but Github has historically been pretty good when it comes to not banning people for stupid reasons. Usually, it's a DMCA thing or a valid security threat.
Recently, there was some controversy about closed source code powering a component of the project (https://github.com/orgs/organicmaps/discussions/9837) but I didn't keep up with that. Could this ban be related to that?
