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Elon Musk sells X to his own xAI for $33 billion in all-stock deal

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  • N [email protected]

    Root access is not given. It is taken.

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    And said, chmod 000 came I out of my mother's LLM, and chmod 000 shall I return thither: the root gave, and the root hath taken away; blessed be the name of the root.

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    • stardustsystem@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

      You think Elon actually does anything besides sign the check?

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      I mean, I think that's their point, that Elon isn't directly involved, and he's constantly shitcanning important people who would prevent something like this happening.

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        using AI hype to finance X loans?

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        • stardustsystem@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

          You think Elon actually does anything besides sign the check?

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          So far I’ve seen/heard Elon:

          • Start shitty arguments
          • Be a fascist
          • Fire people they probably needed
          • Cut funding or drop useful projects
          • Spew senseless, poorly thought out catch phases
          • Censor people that were right but didn’t align with his narrative
          • Take credit for other people’s work
          • Pass the blame for failures

          Have yet to see him sign a check… it’s why they lost their boulder office, for instance.

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          • pelespirit@sh.itjust.worksP [email protected]

            I keep wondering what Elon wanted with all of our information from the government. He has who we are, our relatives, our net worth, where we live and have lived. Now he's probably going to feed it into his AI. Why though?

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            Behavioral predictions. Squash any dissent before it starts. Welcome to the world of precrime.

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            • stardustsystem@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

              You think Elon actually does anything besides sign the check?

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              He’s an egotist and a man child, while also being the richest man in the world. All he has to do is say he wants something and people have to do it. He doesn’t have to “do” anything to be fully influencing what happens. Look at Twitter, look at the federal government. Sycophants surround these assholes and basically have to bend the knee and do what they say. When capital equals power, this is what happens. Just like when blood line meant power, the kings didn’t “do” anything. But the people who took their orders from them did.

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                • J [email protected]

                  Because this way he gets the AI with data that OpenAI couldn't get, and now likely won't get until foreign spies steal it from DOGE and sell it to them.

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                  Eh. You just need to wait till you get added to signal

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                    I’m surprised the Twitter investors would approve this. Their worthless Twitter stock is now worthless xAI stock. How does that help them?

                    I guess they’ll try to take xAI public with a massively overpriced IPO.

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                    • A [email protected]

                      I’m surprised the Twitter investors would approve this. Their worthless Twitter stock is now worthless xAI stock. How does that help them?

                      I guess they’ll try to take xAI public with a massively overpriced IPO.

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                      The whole point of buying Twitter was to take it private. IPO for xAI would hilariously undo that.

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                        I’m surprised the Twitter investors would approve this. Their worthless Twitter stock is now worthless xAI stock. How does that help them?

                        I guess they’ll try to take xAI public with a massively overpriced IPO.

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                        Xitter investors got scammed and there was no way that xitter would be able to pay 1 billion per year in interest. Better having someone else holding the bag

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                        • darkassassin07@lemmy.caD [email protected]

                          $33 billion, 3/4 what it was valued in 2022 when he bought it.

                          Honestly I'm surprised it's still worth that much. (or rather, that's he's succeeded in claiming it's worth that much).

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                          xAI has raised maybe $12B from investors. And, supposedly, makes $100M/yr.

                          The valuations are absurd.

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                          • stalinwolf@lemmy.caS [email protected]

                            His juvenile enthusiasm for the letter X is so ten-year-old boy with sunglasses.

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                              using AI hype to finance X loans?

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                              Correct.

                              It's actually a smart move.

                              The dumb money are those pouring hundreds of billions into the AI hype. This is .com bubble on steroids.

                              And sure, AI obviously is becoming an important market, but it will not be the current leaders who will dominate the tech. Like the internet, it's just too easy to catch up for competitors. Pouring $100B into AI today will only mean you lose out to the $1B startup in 2 years. The incumbents will go broke.

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                                Who did that‽ It's so beautiful, it should be posted all over Xitter lol

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                                  Correct.

                                  It's actually a smart move.

                                  The dumb money are those pouring hundreds of billions into the AI hype. This is .com bubble on steroids.

                                  And sure, AI obviously is becoming an important market, but it will not be the current leaders who will dominate the tech. Like the internet, it's just too easy to catch up for competitors. Pouring $100B into AI today will only mean you lose out to the $1B startup in 2 years. The incumbents will go broke.

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                                  The incumbents will go broke.

                                  Can't wait! Gonna stock up on some popcorn lmao

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                                    I’m surprised the Twitter investors would approve this. Their worthless Twitter stock is now worthless xAI stock. How does that help them?

                                    I guess they’ll try to take xAI public with a massively overpriced IPO.

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                                    I am more surprised xAI investors approved. Especially for such a high price.

                                    Twitter actually imo had (and still has) quite a bit of value, but that is only to further Elons ideological goals. As a business it is on a downward trend and was never a cash cow to begin with. Comparatively little room for speculation. It's a stagnating or declining business and doesn't generate large profits if any.

                                    xAI on the other hand is pretty much in the same spot as most other ai companies. It has yet to prove to be a highly profitable business, but there is plenty of room for speculation. So as long as the bubble doesn't burst, it has a high valuation.

                                    Which is all that would matter for any Twitter investor that wants to unload his shares. Although I doubt it would be via ipo, but rather in private funding rounds.

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                                      Well, not really. Twitter was his own private property that he bought with borrowed money secured against his Tesla shares. xAI on the other hand is financed by investors whose money he used to bail himself out at a price he made up himself since Twitter is no longer publicly traded. So this is, in my opinion, misuse of investor funds; the picture would be true if xAI used how own money to do this, but no.

                                      On one hand,I think this is serious fraud. On the other, my understanding for anyone investing into his companies is very limited, there are so many red flags on so many levels.

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                                      • A [email protected]

                                        Correct.

                                        It's actually a smart move.

                                        The dumb money are those pouring hundreds of billions into the AI hype. This is .com bubble on steroids.

                                        And sure, AI obviously is becoming an important market, but it will not be the current leaders who will dominate the tech. Like the internet, it's just too easy to catch up for competitors. Pouring $100B into AI today will only mean you lose out to the $1B startup in 2 years. The incumbents will go broke.

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                                        The incumbents will go broke.

                                        Who do you mean with that? Companies like OpenAI or Anthropic, or do you also include the likes of Google/Amazon/Microsoft?

                                        With the former I can see it, but the later also profit from providing the infrastructure (and have other profitable business), so imo those will be just fine.

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                                          I mean, with an Elon company who knows.

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                                          it probably runs as root.. all things considered..

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