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  3. In the latest Windows 11 preview build, Microsoft removed the “bypassnro” command, which let users skip signing into a Microsoft Account when installing Windows.

In the latest Windows 11 preview build, Microsoft removed the “bypassnro” command, which let users skip signing into a Microsoft Account when installing Windows.

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  • randint@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyzR [email protected]

    Agree. On iOS, if you don't login with an Apple ID, you can't really install apps. On Android though you can just use F-Droid to install apps just fine.

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    True, but realistically for most people the lack of Google Play is a non starter. Unless you’re really technical and committed to FOSS, you’re going to need every day apps in there.

    IMO the biggest issue on mobile is not even the stores but the fact that both platforms are so tightly integrated with the cloud and the account signed into the OS. Again, if you’re an ordinary user, you can barely do anything without it being tied to your Google account or whatever.

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      That's all well and good, what happens to your kids when they can't tick the Windows and MSOffice boxes on job applications?

      I'm not having a go at you, I'll assume you've taught your kids how to approach the new and unknown in the IT fields, but if they have limited or zero experience with Microsoft products, they'll be at a disadvantage.

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      Oh, I don't discourage them from using/learning Microsoft products at all - they just don't happen to be in our home, because as consumers, my wife and I don't spend our money in Microsofts direction. While I can't say it with accuracy anymore, because it's been 20 years since my switch, one of the selling points with the Linux distributions was that some of them looked and felt like either Mac or Windows. My Ubuntu distribution looks pretty similar to my wife's Mac, and the initial installation of Linux Mint, several years ago was made to look and feel like Windows XP. Honestly, the last time I touched Windows was before retiring from the US Navy, where the Submarine LAN was run on Windown NT - but I retired in 2009.

      If my kids came home with a Windows PC, or the cheaper option, wanted to turn one of my laptops into a dual-boot machine, I wouldn't care...more exposure to (that bad word) diversity in operating systems. I don't think they're missing out on not having Microsoft in our home though. Microsoft Word in the Tux world is Open Office, Microsofts Excel is Calc, etc....if you know one, you'll be able to work on the other.

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      • R [email protected]

        I put this in another thread:
        It's not a big deal. They're removing the bypassnro.cmd script, which is just this:


        @echo off

        reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\OOBE /v BypassNRO /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f

        shutdown /r /t 0


        You can still use shift-F10 at the same point, type those two lines (not the @ECHO OFF), and it will achieve the same result.

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        upvoted for visibility.

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          You also would not have access to your password manager when logging into your OS, would you?

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          While that is true, logging into your OS can also be done via 2FA, namely via a smartcard. It'd offer a similar protection to it, if not better.

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            Is this a US thing? I had to install windows 11 in a VM like a month ago and I didn't have to create MS account or use any bypass scripts.

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            in the latest preview build

            i assume you didn't install today's beta release a month ago 😉

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              Just had to set up two pcs for work. Trying to get around the account setup and thinking about all the bullshit that comes with windows I just installed Linux mint.

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                Fix:

                open this site: https://schneegans.de/windows/unattend-generator/

                check your options that you like

                download your xml

                download win 11 iso

                put on stick with the downloaded xml file

                install win 11

                profit

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                • ? Guest

                  did you ever PC game at all? If so, I'm curious what you did for work around. The main thing holding me back right now from jumping into the linux world before the end of Win10 support is how much I game and use Premier Pro and Photoshop.

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                  I'm in my mid-50s. I play Warzone 2100 and BOS wars on my computer. I've has Steam for several years, and have a game there....I think it's "World of Goo." I like to stick to games that serve as stress relievers, and take no more than about an hour. Between owning a business, 2 teens, 3 schools, 4 sports, a wife, a house that would love to fall apart if I'd only let it, a lawn to mow, and 2 antique cars I love to keep driving, I don't have much more time to let myself be sucked in to some of the really cool stuff I see.

                  I recently bought a replacement PS2 though...the old one broke, and I'm still in love with GTA Vice City. I usually just steal a cop car and do vigilante mode until I'm killed though.

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                    did you ever PC game at all? If so, I'm curious what you did for work around. The main thing holding me back right now from jumping into the linux world before the end of Win10 support is how much I game and use Premier Pro and Photoshop.

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                    Oh, you can set up a dual boot system, so you don't have to completely jump ship. They also have setups that run entirely on a thumb drive now.

                    I did dual boot for a little bit when I want into business 14 years ago. While I liked Linux, I wasn't sure I could run a business without Windows, but soon discovered that everything would be just fine without Windows, and got rid of it.

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                      Just had to set up two pcs for work. Trying to get around the account setup and thinking about all the bullshit that comes with windows I just installed Linux mint.

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                      I'm switching as soon as I finish grad school.

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                      • C [email protected]

                        Thank you! I had no idea that this existed. This is a solution for me personally, but also a solution for our clusterfuck IT people at work that do not understand that we have hundreds of millions of dollars in contracts that need to be fulfilled with software that costs us $12 per day to use and probably wont run on windows 11, instead of breaking everything and migrating it to a software that costs us $32 a day to use but will work on windows 11.

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                        Let me know how that goes!

                        I used the 21H2 Enterprise IoT version, for personal use, i can't share openly how i obtained it.

                        Here are the versions of W10 and their extended support dates.
                        https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/release-information

                        (Since you said you are a enterprise user, I am not sure what is the eligibility for IoT exactly, but for non-IoT, you can go up to 2029 with version 1809)

                        Upgrading from W10 to W10 Enterprise IoT was as simple as a few clicks, no need to reinstall.

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                        • I [email protected]

                          Apple does this.

                          Microsoft is now doing this.

                          I wonder how long until Google start doing it with Android 🤔

                          This future is so fucking dystopian

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                          The future is bright on Linux

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                            You also would not have access to your password manager when logging into your OS, would you?

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                            Your new account will be online. Can access OneDrive and everything Microsoft Online offers. That means anyone with internet access can try to login to it so it has to be very secure.

                            Windows Hello can be used for local login. But I agree with you. I would love to be able to access my Keepassxc vault during the login process. But that might be hard to archive so better to use Windows Hello.

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                              So happy that I switched to linux. Microsoft has been one of the main forces of enshitification of the world. Fuck em. I cant play a bunch of games with my friends anymore, and I have to learn a few new CAD programs, which is like 10 thousand hours of work that I am flushing down the toilet. Worth it.

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                                What is hdr and why do people care about it?

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                                Simplest explanation is HDR enables more color bits per pixel so you have much higher contrast in bright and dark images. It's pretty much essential if you are using OLED panels as these can turn off pixels for a realistic/not washed out black.

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                                  Noooooo!!!! You can't just force us to use a Microsoft account!!! You have to allow us to use the bypasserino!!! Noooooooo!!!

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                                    The future is bright on Linux

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                                    Sadly, no linux phones that are actually usable.

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                                      Simplest explanation is HDR enables more color bits per pixel so you have much higher contrast in bright and dark images. It's pretty much essential if you are using OLED panels as these can turn off pixels for a realistic/not washed out black.

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                                      Interesting, thanks. I just assumed monitors themselves handle that.

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                                        More and more people just need to switch to Linux and grow the userbase so more and more proprietary software create Linux builds just like how Maya and Davinci Resolve are available for Linux. If your computer is a web browser, you should be on Linux. Firefox, Chrome, Edge are all on Linux

                                        If you're a casual photo editor, Darktable. A casual photo editor can probably be well served with GIMP or Krita. If you're a web browser and digital painter Krita. If you edit videos, Davinci Resolve and Kdenlive. Office - OnlyOffice, Libre office, WPS Office

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                                          Sadly, no linux phones that are actually usable.

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                                          Amen. Not a non-Android one, at least.

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