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OR. Hear me out. They haven't released any game for 8 years. And the amat game they made did really well. (Shadow of war)
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OR. Hear me out. They haven't released any game for 8 years. And the amat game they made did really well. (Shadow of war)
Reports were they took 8 years because they spent almost 3 of them making a game in a new IP, knowing that WB wouldn't be happy about it, but it's what they wanted to make. When that got shut down and forcibly changed into Wonder Woman, most of the talent that had been there the longest decided to just leave.
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Reports were they took 8 years because they spent almost 3 of them making a game in a new IP, knowing that WB wouldn't be happy about it, but it's what they wanted to make. When that got shut down and forcibly changed into Wonder Woman, most of the talent that had been there the longest decided to just leave.
So why didn't the guys get back together. Make their own studio and release the game they were working on by themselves?
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So why didn't the guys get back together. Make their own studio and release the game they were working on by themselves?
According to Jason Schreier, most did go on to form a new studio at EA.
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Reports were they took 8 years because they spent almost 3 of them making a game in a new IP, knowing that WB wouldn't be happy about it, but it's what they wanted to make. When that got shut down and forcibly changed into Wonder Woman, most of the talent that had been there the longest decided to just leave.
If they knew that WB wouldn't like it but still did it anyway, thats honestly on them. They were under WB, they gotta follow their rules. If you want to.make your own thing, dont be owned by a parent company. Leave and make your own studio. Don't waste your time for years just to leave in the end, thats stupid.
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If they knew that WB wouldn't like it but still did it anyway, thats honestly on them. They were under WB, they gotta follow their rules. If you want to.make your own thing, dont be owned by a parent company. Leave and make your own studio. Don't waste your time for years just to leave in the end, thats stupid.
The article didn't speculate, but that may have been the point. "We're miserable only making games out of WB movie properties, so you'll let this next one through, or we're gone, and someone else will surely have us instead."
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The article didn't speculate, but that may have been the point. "We're miserable only making games out of WB movie properties, so you'll let this next one through, or we're gone, and someone else will surely have us instead."
Problem with that is that WB likely owns the IP that they were working on and creating while they were owned or working under a studio owned by WB. WB owns all that work that these developers could have kept for their new studio if they had formed one. Now they have to start over again, meaning all that time they worked on it was wasted. They can't use it, and WB sure isn't going to.
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Problem with that is that WB likely owns the IP that they were working on and creating while they were owned or working under a studio owned by WB. WB owns all that work that these developers could have kept for their new studio if they had formed one. Now they have to start over again, meaning all that time they worked on it was wasted. They can't use it, and WB sure isn't going to.
I can tell you that no professional (non indie) gamedev cares about that. We know damn well we have no rights over the stuff we make for our overlords.
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I can tell you that no professional (non indie) gamedev cares about that. We know damn well we have no rights over the stuff we make for our overlords.
Creatives absolutely care about art they spend 3 years making, professional or not. They definitely don't feel happy about wasting all that time for something they can no longer work on.
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Creatives absolutely care about art they spend 3 years making, professional or not. They definitely don't feel happy about wasting all that time for something they can no longer work on.
Care might not have been the right word. I care about my code too, but we know our work belongs to the company so we don't get too attached. The thing that hurts the most with these layoffs is stopping working with the people (or entire teams) you had a good work relationship with, and, of course, suddenly being out of work.
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Care might not have been the right word. I care about my code too, but we know our work belongs to the company so we don't get too attached. The thing that hurts the most with these layoffs is stopping working with the people (or entire teams) you had a good work relationship with, and, of course, suddenly being out of work.
Thats true, but art and code are almost completely different. Nobody puts in their personal emotions into the code they write. Nobody feels personally attached to that code, as there is no personal connection to it other than "I wrote it."
That's not true of art. The parts of a game that are not mechanical (mechanical being code, gameplay design, the "ugly" stuff, if you will) are often created by people that put their own personal emotions, feelings, and other such things into the art. It has a part of them, often deeply personal that perhaps nobody else could understand except for them, and thus having to let that go can be incredibly challenging. Though a professional artist accepts that this may happen someday with their work, when push comes to shove it is generally not easy for them to completely walk away from it. It becomes effectively, from an emotional standpoint, like their child.
I am not saying it hurts more or less than no longer working with someone else, only that the artists that created the art are definitely not feeling good about having to walk away from it and never being able to work on it again.
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Thats true, but art and code are almost completely different. Nobody puts in their personal emotions into the code they write. Nobody feels personally attached to that code, as there is no personal connection to it other than "I wrote it."
That's not true of art. The parts of a game that are not mechanical (mechanical being code, gameplay design, the "ugly" stuff, if you will) are often created by people that put their own personal emotions, feelings, and other such things into the art. It has a part of them, often deeply personal that perhaps nobody else could understand except for them, and thus having to let that go can be incredibly challenging. Though a professional artist accepts that this may happen someday with their work, when push comes to shove it is generally not easy for them to completely walk away from it. It becomes effectively, from an emotional standpoint, like their child.
I am not saying it hurts more or less than no longer working with someone else, only that the artists that created the art are definitely not feeling good about having to walk away from it and never being able to work on it again.
It becomes effectively, from an emotional standpoint, like their child.
It's the same with code. It involves more basic logic than art but it's still creative work imo. Hell, there's even artistic forms of coding.
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