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US tells French companies to comply with Donald Trump’s anti-diversity order

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  • K [email protected]

    France replies to trump with "we wave our genitalia in your general direction."

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    Do you bite your thumb at me, sir?

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      France replies to trump with "we wave our genitalia in your general direction."

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      • cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.comC [email protected]

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        They know how to build guillotines, asshole!

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        • oce@jlai.luO [email protected]

          The interesting part

          France has not traditionally been a place where DEI programmes have taken root because of legal limitations on the collection of racial and ethnic data. Employers are not allowed to factor people’s origins into hiring or promotion decisions.

          In France, you cannot really base any official decision on the origin of someone, even just using the concept of race is considered racist and against the law.

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          And they know how to build guillotines.

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            We still have DEI policies focusing on gender, disability and on socio-economic background (which does correlate with ethnicity in a lot of places). Of course in a lot of companies it's mostly for show, but in some it's done with a sincere will and has real effects.

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            And they know how to build guillotines.

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            • oce@jlai.luO [email protected]

              It may correlate with ethnicity, but the cases when it doesn't are important too and it makes it a better condition. It's also better at countering some far right arguments against help programs.

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              And they know how to build guillotines.

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                trebuchet Trojan Rabbit

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                  They know how to build guillotines, asshole!

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                  Have you seen the size of his turkey neck? They're going to need to build a double wide for him.

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                  • a_norny_mousse@feddit.orgA [email protected]

                    "If you don't play by our rules you can't do business with us!"

                    They just keep shooting themselves in both feet.
                    As if a tariff war wasn't enough.

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                    Damn. No chlorinated chicken for Europeans I guess.

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                    • zagorath@aussie.zoneZ [email protected]

                      No, the EU has a habit of protectionism disguised as legitimate interest. I recall a case study from when I was in high school, where the EU set the safety limits on a certain contaminant in a product—peanuts, I think it was—way, way stricter than any evidentiary basis, because EU farms could meet the restriction, but African or South American farms could not.

                      It's hardly comparable to anything Trump is doing, but it's worth mentioning, since you did claim EU laws are all about affecting everyone equally.

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                      This deserves a post of its own.

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                      • farraigeplaisteach@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                        This deserves a post of its own.

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                        Maybe, but it's hardly news. I graduated highschool well over a decade ago, and the case study I mentioned was not exactly new when I was studying economics in school.

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                          And they know how to build guillotines.

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                          It's not rocket science. (Although coincidentally we Frenchmen know how to build rockets too)

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                            I think the issue is not about applying DEI in French companies, nor it exist. The problem is a foreigner leader telling an independent country how he should manage his companies, or at least, to foreign companies how they should hire people.
                            You can't be a libertarian from one side and tell such things... until you want to fire every human and make every company in the world running with Musk AI and robots ...

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                            • G [email protected]

                              It's not rocket science. (Although coincidentally we Frenchmen know how to build rockets too)

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                              Have you ever tried to build rocket powered guillotines? You could send one of them over the atlantic

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                                Interesting, thanks for sharing.

                                I understand this to mean that job adverts shouldn't explicitly target DEI hires. That is not, however, the same as not implementing DEI targets in a company.

                                The intelligent way to implement DEI has always been to interview and identity the top candidates for a role, and then if you have 2 capable and competent candidates and one is a women / minority, they get the job. This law wouldn't prevent that.

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                                French companies do have to implement "DEI" policies by law. In France, companies have to monitor inequalities between men and women (in hiring opportunities, salary, promotions, autonomy, etc) and implement plans to reduce them (they can't discriminate on job adverts, but can take other actions). They also have to hire a certain proportion of people with disabilities.

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                                  Have you ever tried to build rocket powered guillotines? You could send one of them over the atlantic

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                                  The British managed that, though we are more than happy to share with our European cousins.

                                  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Shrapnel

                                  He invented the idea of an explosion powered guillotine blade. Perfect for a rocket warhead.

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                                    French companies do have to implement "DEI" policies by law. In France, companies have to monitor inequalities between men and women (in hiring opportunities, salary, promotions, autonomy, etc) and implement plans to reduce them (they can't discriminate on job adverts, but can take other actions). They also have to hire a certain proportion of people with disabilities.

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                                    Makes sense, thanks for clarifying.

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                                      Government so small it can fit inside your office.

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                                      • zagorath@aussie.zoneZ [email protected]

                                        Maybe, but it's hardly news. I graduated highschool well over a decade ago, and the case study I mentioned was not exactly new when I was studying economics in school.

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                                        Old news is usually “new” to a lot of people. I should look into it myself as someone who has a vote in EU elections.

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                                          The best!

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