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Trump’s US doesn’t just think Europe is obsolete – it wants to see it dead

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  • A [email protected]

    I was dumbfounded the first time my ex-wife tried to tell me that because I was a (former) Catholic at the time, that it wasn't actually Christianity.

    My exact words were; "Bitch please! We were the fucking original christians, what the fuck are you on about?"

    That was before we got married and I should have listened to my gut in that moment.

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    Bitch please! We were the fucking original christians

    Orthodox Christians: excuse yourself bitch!

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      Meanwhile I'm trying to figure out how best to flee the US and set up in Denmark or some similar place with a much higher quality of life and fewer 21st century Nazis.

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      Careful with Denmark. Our immigration laws have become pretty strict. We're also a pretty tiny country.

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        Bitch please! We were the fucking original christians

        Orthodox Christians: excuse yourself bitch!

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        come at me, bro...

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        • tattorack@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

          Careful with Denmark. Our immigration laws have become pretty strict. We're also a pretty tiny country.

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          Unfortunately a lot of European countries have been going down that dark path, just not as far along as the US. I'm cautiously hopeful that the current events will help steer us back in the right direction but we'll see..

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            Bitch please! We were the fucking original christians

            Orthodox Christians: excuse yourself bitch!

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            I was raised Roman Catholic and I was taught about the schism.

            However, it was framed as the Eastern Orthodox Catholics broke off from mainstream Catholicism, therefore Roman Catholics were the "original Catholics."

            It does kind of tickle me how much the folks that taught me that, value tradition so highly that they try to rationalize this kind of thing until they once are "traditional."

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              You're a fucking joke if you think the last two months is representative of the US over the past 75 years.

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              I'd argue that the last two months have been the culmination of the last ~50 years of US fascism.

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                I was dumbfounded the first time my ex-wife tried to tell me that because I was a (former) Catholic at the time, that it wasn't actually Christianity.

                My exact words were; "Bitch please! We were the fucking original christians, what the fuck are you on about?"

                That was before we got married and I should have listened to my gut in that moment.

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                Southern Baptiats after schisming in order to make the Curse of Ham their dogmatic rationalization of slavery:

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                • infynis@midwest.socialI [email protected]

                  Interesting. Wild, but interesting. I consider Mormons to be Christian too, I didn't realize it was its own thing, I thought it was just the blanket term for religions that worship Jesus.

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                  Don't sweat it, everyone is just gatekeeping, because only their specific religion is true and everyone else is just evil and siding with Satan.

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                    Which makes it extra ironic the so-called White House faith office is pulling shit like selling $1,000 Easter miracles.

                    That’s practically the old Catholic indulgences and those were literally one of the reasons for the great schism; that kind of shit is why Protestants exist to begin with THAT’S WHAT THEY WERE PROTESTING

                    They have so utterly and comprehensively lost the plot and betrayed everything they claimed to stand for

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                    The sbc never, ever claimed to stand for anything except being pro-slavery.

                    That's why they schismed from the triennial convention, to endorse the Curse of Ham as core dogma for God to command white men to keep black people as slaves.

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                      I'd argue that the last two months have been the culmination of the last ~50 years of US fascism.

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                      I heard someone defederated from Hexbear, but I didn't think it was us.

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                        The difference these last few months has been the lack of any restraint when talking about it, because of the incredibly low IQ of people in charge rn. When did US ever engage in war without securing wealth or land? Selfless defence is not even on the list of general reasons for war. Number one is economic gain. It's always a defence contract or straight up looting. When all you have is a hammer..

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                        I assure you, the recent differences are more than just talk.

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                        • obi@sopuli.xyzO [email protected]

                          Unfortunately a lot of European countries have been going down that dark path, just not as far along as the US. I'm cautiously hopeful that the current events will help steer us back in the right direction but we'll see..

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                          Curious, why are strict immigration laws a "dark path"?

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                            Curious, why are strict immigration laws a "dark path"?

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                            Look at the US reasoning for their strict immigration and realize its the same motivations.

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                              Europe is a comparative bastion of liberal democracy,

                              I think you mean colonialism and white supremacy.

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                              As an Asian, please go fuck yourself.

                              We had just as much, if not far more cruelty to our own people, for instance our caste system was really just charming.

                              The British brought rule of law, sanitation and medicine, and they stopped the monstrous Muslims from genociding us every time they felt like it.

                              Seems like a great trade to me.

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                                Look at the US reasoning for their strict immigration and realize its the same motivations.

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                                You really believe Denmark is looking at the Trump's administration approach as something to model itself after? What are the common issues Denmark is facing that match the US response?

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                                  Don't sweat it, everyone is just gatekeeping, because only their specific religion is true and everyone else is just evil and siding with Satan.

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                                  And they’re all mutually exclusive! So if you’re religious and believe in one of the various Christian offshoots (or really, any faith of Abrahamic origin), no matter which one you pick, you’re going to hell according to most of the others.

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                                    Summary

                                    The "Signalgate" scandal confirms the Trump administration's deep disdain for Europe, viewing it not just as obsolete but actively wanting its demise.

                                    There are 3 major implications: an inevitable trade war where Europe must unite; continued US pressure on Greenland despite European pushback; and Europe needing to support Ukraine not just without US help, but potentially against US interests.

                                    European leaders who stand firm against US bullying are seeing rising approval ratings.

                                    Europe should "with firmness, courage and politeness" chart its own path forward.

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                                    The USA is well its way to becoming a danger to other countries and a force of evil in the world.

                                    Worse... It appears this change is intentional and deliberate

                                    Meaning they plan on it getting much much worse

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                                      As an Asian, please go fuck yourself.

                                      We had just as much, if not far more cruelty to our own people, for instance our caste system was really just charming.

                                      The British brought rule of law, sanitation and medicine, and they stopped the monstrous Muslims from genociding us every time they felt like it.

                                      Seems like a great trade to me.

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                                      Are you from india?

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                                        Europe is a comparative bastion of liberal democracy,

                                        I think you mean colonialism and white supremacy.

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                                        Right? What is this nonsense lol. Go and tell Belgian congo about being a bastion of liberal democracy 😂😂😂

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                                          You really believe Denmark is looking at the Trump's administration approach as something to model itself after? What are the common issues Denmark is facing that match the US response?

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                                          Listening to those that push for strict immigration in Europe you could easily confuse them for Republicans.

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