Europe goes into daylight saving time despite controversy
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I literally couldn’t care less which time we pick, I just want the madness to STOP
Totally this discussion has been going on for ages let's just say its dumb in this fay and age and stop it.
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The thing I don't get is why it happens in the summer rather than the winter.
In the UK it gets dark at about 4pm in winter. We basically get no leisure time during daylight but we do get a bit of light during getting ready for work time when we don't really need it.
In the US they claim it's about kids walking to school/the bus stop
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Summary
Most European countries moved clocks forward one hour on Sunday, marking the start of daylight saving time (DST), a practice increasingly criticized.
Originally introduced during World War I to conserve energy, DST returned during the 1970s oil crisis and now shifts Central European Time to Central European Summer Time.
Despite a 2018 EU consultation where 84% of nearly 4 million respondents supported abolishing DST, implementation stalled due to member state disagreement.
Poland, currently holding the EU presidency, plans informal consultations to revisit the issue amid broader geopolitical priorities.
They need to seriously quit this bullshit. It serves no practical purpose in our modern society, while also having tangible negative effects. So why keep doing it?
I enthusiastically support getting rid of this nonsense.
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I advocate for it. So far I'm always dismissed as a joke.
Yeah, that is silly. If you're going to be that radical, you may as well go decimal at the same time. 10 hours, 100 minutes, 100 seconds. Ignore when the sun rises. Have 400 days in a year, ignore when the seasons come. I bet you my best docker container people hate and ignore the broken system that bears no relationship to their reality.
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give me whichever option that maximizes sunlight during most people's free time
That’s not changed by adjusting clocks, it’s changed by adjusting work hours.
This makes no sense. Changing the clocks isn't what makes you change your sleep/wake cycle AT ALL. It's changing when the working day starts that does that.
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This makes no sense. Changing the clocks isn't what makes you change your sleep/wake cycle AT ALL. It's changing when the working day starts that does that.
Uh yeah, that’s what I said.
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Summary
Most European countries moved clocks forward one hour on Sunday, marking the start of daylight saving time (DST), a practice increasingly criticized.
Originally introduced during World War I to conserve energy, DST returned during the 1970s oil crisis and now shifts Central European Time to Central European Summer Time.
Despite a 2018 EU consultation where 84% of nearly 4 million respondents supported abolishing DST, implementation stalled due to member state disagreement.
Poland, currently holding the EU presidency, plans informal consultations to revisit the issue amid broader geopolitical priorities.
I fucking hate it
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Uh yeah, that’s what I said.
I score zero for reading comprehension!
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They need to seriously quit this bullshit. It serves no practical purpose in our modern society, while also having tangible negative effects. So why keep doing it?
I enthusiastically support getting rid of this nonsense.
More daylight in summer rocks. It would be equally rocking in Winter. The clocks shoud stay forward.
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Summary
Most European countries moved clocks forward one hour on Sunday, marking the start of daylight saving time (DST), a practice increasingly criticized.
Originally introduced during World War I to conserve energy, DST returned during the 1970s oil crisis and now shifts Central European Time to Central European Summer Time.
Despite a 2018 EU consultation where 84% of nearly 4 million respondents supported abolishing DST, implementation stalled due to member state disagreement.
Poland, currently holding the EU presidency, plans informal consultations to revisit the issue amid broader geopolitical priorities.
I'll take 7 hour workdays in summer instead.
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They need to seriously quit this bullshit. It serves no practical purpose in our modern society, while also having tangible negative effects. So why keep doing it?
I enthusiastically support getting rid of this nonsense.
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American here, trick question, it's E. Irrelevant, the driver is only paid through tips and the employer doesn't pay payroll taxes, so it's any.
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More daylight in summer rocks. It would be equally rocking in Winter. The clocks shoud stay forward.
But wouldn't it be neat if midnight was att 00:00 and mid day was 12:00?
Also, you don't get more daylight by moving the clock. You get more clock.
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The simple fact is that on the Monday after DST starts, more people have heart attacks and strokes.
Meaning that not going away from it means people will continue to die from it.
I wasn't sure if you were joking, but nope: https://newsroom.heart.org/news/heres-your-wake-up-call-daylight-saving-time-may-impact-your-heart-health
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It's the standard. It's what clocks are "supposed" to be set at. DST forces everyone to pretend it's another time. Let people take advantage of summer daylight how they see fit rather than forcing them to.
It’s what clocks are “supposed” to be set at
Even better for us Dutchies: CEST shifts us one hour, but our timezone is the same as the rest of the mainland, but technically we're inside the UTC zone, so we're actually shifted 2 hours from where we're supposed to be!
Fuck the economy, I want our times fixed, so we can sleep better!
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A, B or C.
D would mean that you are in a country with a half hour DST offset, in which case we would miss the option 1 hour and 30 minutes.
D can also happen if the 00:45 job was before the 00:15 job, which thanks to the magic of daylight savings, is also possible
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D can also happen if the 00:45 job was before the 00:15 job, which thanks to the magic of daylight savings, is also possible
Wow, I didn't even think of that option. Savage.
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But wouldn't it be neat if midnight was att 00:00 and mid day was 12:00?
Also, you don't get more daylight by moving the clock. You get more clock.
Time of day is a human invention. We can assign the date lines wherever we like.
Like Japan was nuts. Dark at 3pm in winter. Light at 3am in summer. They'd benefit by shifting that shit two hours forward for sure.
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Time of day is a human invention. We can assign the date lines wherever we like.
Like Japan was nuts. Dark at 3pm in winter. Light at 3am in summer. They'd benefit by shifting that shit two hours forward for sure.
I disagree. The angle of the sun is not a human invention. Trying to invent something from scratch based on that, I would definitely mark one time as "the darkest" and another "the lightest".
I agree that hours, and therefore date lines and time zones are completely arbitrary though.
If we didn't have hours we'd still need a way to group times by geographic or political regions; my example above still needs to handle the "lightest where?" question.
I think my conclusion is that organizing people and societies is arbitrary by nature.
It would be neater though to try to make midnight and mid day the basis for which we measure time. Stepping off of that makes it even more arbitrary.
