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    Just did a GOG survey that focused on the idea of a paid membership option on GOG. Seems they're determining what people would be willing to pay extra for. Some of the options were

    • a tool for backing up offline installers
    • ability to install previous versions of a game
    • extra insight into the preservation work they're doing.
    • voting rights on games to bring into the preservation program.

    And others that I can't remember.

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    #90

    How about instead of this subscription talk, GOG could:

    -Remake GOG Galaxy. The client is slow with tons of bloat. Focus on your store, and make a native Linux client.
    -Help fund Wine. I find it weird that the main non-DRM store is so againat Linux. I know people that would leave Steam If GOG came to Linux.
    -Different version and a tool to backup games should be part of the new launcher and not part of a subscription. You guys talk about game preservations and then try to put parts of it behind a paywall.....
    -A more realistic Dreamlist. Who had the idea of letting people submit any game they want? Dreamlist would work better if GOG choose a list of games and the community voted for what game for GOG to focus on. People really think that games that were console exclusive or old FIFA/NBA/Gran Turismo games will come to GOG.
    -There are some games on GOG that don't work, FIX THEM! (Looking at you Kane and Lynch)

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    • A [email protected]

      Just did a GOG survey that focused on the idea of a paid membership option on GOG. Seems they're determining what people would be willing to pay extra for. Some of the options were

      • a tool for backing up offline installers
      • ability to install previous versions of a game
      • extra insight into the preservation work they're doing.
      • voting rights on games to bring into the preservation program.

      And others that I can't remember.

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      I really hate most subscriptions, because the prises are often too high, they rely on locking stuff behind paywalls, instead of providing a good service.

      Here is the difference, I am ok paying monthly for storage space, servers, and hosted/managed open source web services, because there is competition and standard interfaces there. They do not hold you hostage to their service, what they provide is good on its own.

      I GOG invests money into writing open source libraries, apps and APIs to efficiently and easily share save games between devices. Let people self host the open source backend, but offer up a subscription for a managed instance, with maybe some voting rights for new features to be integrated into the open source backend, then I would be willing to support this.

      And other stuff like this.

      Use subscriptions to offer good services, which also allow you to improve the whole ecosystem, while also not putting yourself as the gatekeeper, and locking people into their service.

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      • daggermoon@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

        I think LEGO Island would be hard to license because Mindscape is long gone. Also the source code was lost as I recall. MattKC on YouTube has created lots of patches to get the game running on modern systems. He's working on decompiling it actually.

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        Yeah, I'm actually a member of his channel on YouTube.

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        • K [email protected]

          It's not like they have to create the compatibility layers from scratch; Valve did it for them.

          I do just want to point out, Valve didn't do that - Proton is mostly just pre-existing software that they packaged together into an officially supported feature. I love that they did it, and having it in the biggest PC game platform presumably did wonders for Linux gaming, but it was most certainly not made from scratch.

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          I agree with you for the most part, but valve also is funding the developers behind the most important things out of proton. DXVK and vkd3d-proton were almost non-existent before Valve employed them.

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            Wait so currently you can't install previous versions of games you only get the most up-to-date version. That's daft to expect people to pay for, that's a free feature on Steam.

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            That is absolutely not a free feature on Steam. Some publishers like Paradox leave old versions as 'beta' branches to allow us to reinstall them, but Steam as a whole is very against you playing anything but the latest version.

            You cannot instruct Steam to not update a game. When you launch a game, Steam will update regardless, unless you have gone offline, or you launch it in a way that bypasses the Steam client. If you ever forget to go offline before launching a game, Steam will forcibly update it

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              That's not an official/proper feature on steam, there's nothing in the interface to select an older version, right? Just the beta system that lets developers have multiple branches available, which is often used to keep a limited number of previous versions available.

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              I thought it was a command that you could launch steam with that would give you access to older versions. I'm sure I have done that when trying to mod GTA and it needed a particular version.

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              • A [email protected]

                Just did a GOG survey that focused on the idea of a paid membership option on GOG. Seems they're determining what people would be willing to pay extra for. Some of the options were

                • a tool for backing up offline installers
                • ability to install previous versions of a game
                • extra insight into the preservation work they're doing.
                • voting rights on games to bring into the preservation program.

                And others that I can't remember.

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                Making porting gog to linux a priority which has by far the smallest market share for computer gaming is the dumbest thing anyone in this thread is saying, where is that financially a viable option to cater to the tiniest percentage of gamers for gog? I know ill get downvoted but im tired of the fanatical linux posts on lemmy at this point. Get with reality they are going to work on the client where the money is most predominantly flowing from and its not linux or mac. Haters gonna hate the truth but its the truth from a business standpoint.

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                  How about instead of this subscription talk, GOG could:

                  -Remake GOG Galaxy. The client is slow with tons of bloat. Focus on your store, and make a native Linux client.
                  -Help fund Wine. I find it weird that the main non-DRM store is so againat Linux. I know people that would leave Steam If GOG came to Linux.
                  -Different version and a tool to backup games should be part of the new launcher and not part of a subscription. You guys talk about game preservations and then try to put parts of it behind a paywall.....
                  -A more realistic Dreamlist. Who had the idea of letting people submit any game they want? Dreamlist would work better if GOG choose a list of games and the community voted for what game for GOG to focus on. People really think that games that were console exclusive or old FIFA/NBA/Gran Turismo games will come to GOG.
                  -There are some games on GOG that don't work, FIX THEM! (Looking at you Kane and Lynch)

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                  With regards to the Dreamlist, this is so that they have ammunition to bring to rights holders. They just started bringing previously console exclusive games to GOG as well, so that barrier has been broken down. If there's money in it, any game could be done.

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                  • ampersandrew@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                    With regards to the Dreamlist, this is so that they have ammunition to bring to rights holders. They just started bringing previously console exclusive games to GOG as well, so that barrier has been broken down. If there's money in it, any game could be done.

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                    What console exclusive came to GOG?
                    I don't belive GOG or EA would buy the license of old FIFA players just so they can publish old FIFA games.
                    It's better to have a smaller curated list where players can vote and GOG choose a game to focus on. Right now the fact we can vote for dead live service games to come to a non-DRM store is just weird.

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                      What console exclusive came to GOG?
                      I don't belive GOG or EA would buy the license of old FIFA players just so they can publish old FIFA games.
                      It's better to have a smaller curated list where players can vote and GOG choose a game to focus on. Right now the fact we can vote for dead live service games to come to a non-DRM store is just weird.

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                      Does God of War count?

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                        What console exclusive came to GOG?
                        I don't belive GOG or EA would buy the license of old FIFA players just so they can publish old FIFA games.
                        It's better to have a smaller curated list where players can vote and GOG choose a game to focus on. Right now the fact we can vote for dead live service games to come to a non-DRM store is just weird.

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                        You know, I just checked the ones I was confident on, and it turns out they each had an obscure Windows port back in the day that I never heard of. Still, the other popular trend going on right now for porting old console games like Tomba and Mega Man is to run them through tools that emulate the game and then output native code, and I wouldn't consider it a waste of time to show where the demand is. For old sports games, it may be difficult or impossible to acquire the old rights, but if it's at all possible, and these are customers that aren't making them money on the modern iterations, that's still worth it too.

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                          Does God of War count?

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                          God of War came to Steam first, it wasn't because of GOG efforts. The games that GOG manage to bring back (RE games and Dino Crisis for exemple) had japanese PC clients.

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                          • ampersandrew@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                            You know, I just checked the ones I was confident on, and it turns out they each had an obscure Windows port back in the day that I never heard of. Still, the other popular trend going on right now for porting old console games like Tomba and Mega Man is to run them through tools that emulate the game and then output native code, and I wouldn't consider it a waste of time to show where the demand is. For old sports games, it may be difficult or impossible to acquire the old rights, but if it's at all possible, and these are customers that aren't making them money on the modern iterations, that's still worth it too.

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                            I'm not saying that it's a waste of effort. I'm just saying that it's a way to disapoint people that don't understand what the dreamlist is for.
                            Internet can be a bitch when people don't get what they want.
                            I just did a quick search and saw Pokémon games there and some romhacks..... No way in hell Nintendo would sell their games on PC in a non-DRM store.

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                              God of War came to Steam first, it wasn't because of GOG efforts. The games that GOG manage to bring back (RE games and Dino Crisis for exemple) had japanese PC clients.

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                              Pretty sure it released on both platforms at the same time, as far as I’m concerned any games that show up on GoG with no DRM take a bit of effort from GoG to actually verify and host the installers, more so when the contracts expire and they have to delist them and try to get them back

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                                I'm not saying that it's a waste of effort. I'm just saying that it's a way to disapoint people that don't understand what the dreamlist is for.
                                Internet can be a bitch when people don't get what they want.
                                I just did a quick search and saw Pokémon games there and some romhacks..... No way in hell Nintendo would sell their games on PC in a non-DRM store.

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                                There is, if the money is there. Nintendo's also under new management these days, and if the old strategies don't work, they could pivot, just like Microsoft and Sony have.

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                                  Pretty sure it released on both platforms at the same time, as far as I’m concerned any games that show up on GoG with no DRM take a bit of effort from GoG to actually verify and host the installers, more so when the contracts expire and they have to delist them and try to get them back

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                                  Yes GOG takes a bit more time to verify the installer, but I'm sure when Sony put the games on PC the reason was the massive Steam (and maybe Epic) userbase, GOG was an afterthought.

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                                  • ampersandrew@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                                    There is, if the money is there. Nintendo's also under new management these days, and if the old strategies don't work, they could pivot, just like Microsoft and Sony have.

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                                    Nintendo would most likely sell PC games from their website first, and then after some time sell them on Steam. But the odds of Nintendo porting Switch games for PC is extremely low.

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                                      Nintendo would most likely sell PC games from their website first, and then after some time sell them on Steam. But the odds of Nintendo porting Switch games for PC is extremely low.

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                                      I agree, but it'll be the only way they get my money. Everyone can see that PC line going up and that console line going down, so we'll see how long they hold their ground; probably one generation longer than Sony does.

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                                        I agree, but it'll be the only way they get my money. Everyone can see that PC line going up and that console line going down, so we'll see how long they hold their ground; probably one generation longer than Sony does.

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                                        Sony and Nintendo won't go anywhere any time soon. Console gaming is easier and "cheaper" than PC gaming, and most people don't care (or know about) non-DRM.

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                                        • A [email protected]

                                          Just did a GOG survey that focused on the idea of a paid membership option on GOG. Seems they're determining what people would be willing to pay extra for. Some of the options were

                                          • a tool for backing up offline installers
                                          • ability to install previous versions of a game
                                          • extra insight into the preservation work they're doing.
                                          • voting rights on games to bring into the preservation program.

                                          And others that I can't remember.

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                                          Honestly, I would totally move to GOG, however my entire games collection is on Steam, so it would be very very difficult and it’s rather tedious to have and use 2 platforms like that.

                                          Oh well, I do hope they can get more people onto their platform. it’s a better Epic store for sure.

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