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Live updates: Trump announces sweeping tariffs

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    Surprised I don't see Brasil (sp?) on there not surprised I don't see Hungary Turkiye Russia or Israel on there.

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    In English, Brazil.

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      Among the reciprocal tariff levels Trump announced:

      China: 34%
      European Union: 20%
      South Korea: 25%
      India: 26%
      Vietnam: 46%
      Taiwan: 32%
      Japan: 24%
      Thailand: 36%
      Switzerland: 31%
      Indonesia: 32%
      Malaysia: 24%
      Cambodia: 49%
      United Kingdom: 10%

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      China: 34%

      Added note that this is cumulative so it's 54% total. Confirmed by Press secretary earlier.

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        I'm not sure that that's necessarily wrong. Excise taxes, import duties, etc. have been around for millennia. In the US, the income tax has only been around since the Civil War (which it was created to pay for).

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        Taxes on citizens have always been used to run the government those citizens live under. Doesn’t matter if it’s base on income or something else.

        The only way to make other countries pay for your government to operate is to invade them and steal all of their resources… like Hitler did.

        It’s really not worth trying to make sense of anything this guy says. He is the definition of a bullshitter.

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          Except, for example many Canadians, who are really fed up with being the kick ball for American Presidents (Trump has a lot of company when it comes to tariffs), who will do their best to not buy anything from the USA. I predict our trade deficit will go in the opposite direction that Trump hopes. The USA still needs to buy electricity, gas/oil, wood, and various other raw products from Canada. We don't have to buy finished goods from the USA since there are plenty of other countries to supply them. We really don't need to vacation there.

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          AFAIK, most low added-value products the US net exports are food. Also AFAIK, Canada mostly doesn't buy those, but the countries that do buy them won't just stop.

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            Among the reciprocal tariff levels Trump announced:

            China: 34%
            European Union: 20%
            South Korea: 25%
            India: 26%
            Vietnam: 46%
            Taiwan: 32%
            Japan: 24%
            Thailand: 36%
            Switzerland: 31%
            Indonesia: 32%
            Malaysia: 24%
            Cambodia: 49%
            United Kingdom: 10%

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            Holy shit the post-market drops for SPY and QQQ are insane. I haven't seen a post/pre market move this sharp since Covid

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              I'm not sure that that's necessarily wrong. Excise taxes, import duties, etc. have been around for millennia. In the US, the income tax has only been around since the Civil War (which it was created to pay for).

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              Why would someone run a business exporting goods into a country if they couldn't charge more than the cost of duties, labor, and materials for the goods?

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                If their cost goes way up, that might make hand-made American items comparatively affordable, maybe for the first time in modern history. It's (potentially) a good thing for a bad reason, I guess.

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                I doubt that, to be honest. The supplies to make the items will also go up in price, and the US simply doesn't have the industrial power and cheap labor that other countries have to make them. GOP voters think that somehow it'll make things cheaper (which actually would be a bad thing, deflation isn't a good sign for the economy), but the price of everything is about to skyrocket.

                That's not to mention that the few suppliers that are 100% US based would just crank up their prices anyway, because they can.

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                  FYI , HERE is the most up to date list (including Turkye, Israel and some others)

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                  I don't even have to click on that to know that Russia is not listed.

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                    Lol no , if anyone thinks that its the best indicator that they dont know first thing about corpos ... theyll just jack the end price

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                    Yes, but when things are expensive people buy them less and corporations make less money

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                    • zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zoneZ [email protected]

                      For people inside the US doesnt paying for the tarriffs just means more money going into this administration? Better to only purchase things if you absolutely have to

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                      It doesn't necessarily give them more money as the tariffs regulate what we're required to pay a supplier for a good. There's not like a government fund it goes to or anything (unless my understanding is wrong). But not buying US products outside and inside the states is basically accelerationism on the economy. Which will hopefully wake people up so we can take this shit back for the people (and not just destroy all civilization which is what recent accelerationism has been about). The faster people rise up the less we have to rebuild, hopefully.

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                        Among the reciprocal tariff levels Trump announced:

                        China: 34%
                        European Union: 20%
                        South Korea: 25%
                        India: 26%
                        Vietnam: 46%
                        Taiwan: 32%
                        Japan: 24%
                        Thailand: 36%
                        Switzerland: 31%
                        Indonesia: 32%
                        Malaysia: 24%
                        Cambodia: 49%
                        United Kingdom: 10%

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                        As I understand it, that “rest of the world” is actually a base tariff, and the rest of these are ON TOP OF that.

                        So China is actually 44%, etc

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                          Among the reciprocal tariff levels Trump announced:

                          China: 34%
                          European Union: 20%
                          South Korea: 25%
                          India: 26%
                          Vietnam: 46%
                          Taiwan: 32%
                          Japan: 24%
                          Thailand: 36%
                          Switzerland: 31%
                          Indonesia: 32%
                          Malaysia: 24%
                          Cambodia: 49%
                          United Kingdom: 10%

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                          Lmfao buckle up for the second Great Depression, everyone! It’ll be fun! ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ

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                            I doubt that, to be honest. The supplies to make the items will also go up in price, and the US simply doesn't have the industrial power and cheap labor that other countries have to make them. GOP voters think that somehow it'll make things cheaper (which actually would be a bad thing, deflation isn't a good sign for the economy), but the price of everything is about to skyrocket.

                            That's not to mention that the few suppliers that are 100% US based would just crank up their prices anyway, because they can.

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                            Oh, I don't mean on an industrial scale. Sorry for any confusion. I was thinking of small-scale artists who have crochet businesses. It might be easier to sell $30 plushies if all of the plushies from Vietnam (and other places known for cheap hand-made products) are now $50.

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                              Among the reciprocal tariff levels Trump announced:

                              China: 34%
                              European Union: 20%
                              South Korea: 25%
                              India: 26%
                              Vietnam: 46%
                              Taiwan: 32%
                              Japan: 24%
                              Thailand: 36%
                              Switzerland: 31%
                              Indonesia: 32%
                              Malaysia: 24%
                              Cambodia: 49%
                              United Kingdom: 10%

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                              I think it's important to note that this will kill a great many small businesses.

                              Larger companies have a larger supply in giant warehouses. Small businesses order smaller quantities more often. They get fucked sooner with the costs going up. If a customer wants to support that small business they sometimes would have to pay twice what they could get it for from a larger company. This is a deep consolidation of wealth.

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                                So is the plan to drive the cost of everyday essentials so high that virtually everyone bankrupts and the billionaires buy all of our assets for pennies on the thousand dollars? That is all I can come up with trying to make a scenario where this has some coherent objective.

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                                He wants to use tariffs (which act like a flat-tax) to lower income tax on the rich. There's speculation he's also doing something like the "Mar-a-Lago Accord," which involves devaluing the dollar (causing inflation). If wages don't rise with the inflation (which they don't want), US labor will be more competitive, so people can work in factory jobs with pay analogous to current Chinese factory workers.

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                                  Oh, I don't mean on an industrial scale. Sorry for any confusion. I was thinking of small-scale artists who have crochet businesses. It might be easier to sell $30 plushies if all of the plushies from Vietnam (and other places known for cheap hand-made products) are now $50.

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                                  Ah, gotcha. It'll be interesting (in a bad way, most likely) to see how this will affect those business.

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                                  • circav@lemmy.caC [email protected]

                                    As a 🇨🇦 my boycott will last a lifetime.

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                                    One of the benefits of having young children is that if I play my cards right "my" boycott could exceed my own lifetime.

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                                    • transplantedsconie@lemm.eeT [email protected]

                                      Not even via a trebuchet?

                                      Trebuchets:

                                      A superior siege engine for today's trying times!

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                                      If Trump would be killed by a medieval seige weapon, then I will believe in god again.

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                                        Among the reciprocal tariff levels Trump announced:

                                        China: 34%
                                        European Union: 20%
                                        South Korea: 25%
                                        India: 26%
                                        Vietnam: 46%
                                        Taiwan: 32%
                                        Japan: 24%
                                        Thailand: 36%
                                        Switzerland: 31%
                                        Indonesia: 32%
                                        Malaysia: 24%
                                        Cambodia: 49%
                                        United Kingdom: 10%

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                                        Did he wait until late afternoon Apr 2nd?

                                        He failed to do it "the day l'm elected."

                                        He failed to do it the day he was sworn in.

                                        He failed to do it, like 5 times from Jan - Mar.

                                        He failed to do it Apr 1.

                                        He failed to do business during business hours Apr 2nd.

                                        This little baby just keeps failing and hiding.

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                                          Is he using a random number generator?

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                                          The following quote from ChrisO_wiki on bsky

                                          "@chriso-wiki.bsky.social
                                          Just figured out where these fake tariff rates come from. They didn't actually calculate tariff rates + non-tariff barriers, as they say they did. Instead, for every country, they just took our trade deficit with that country and divided it by the country's exports to us." Just about sums it up.

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