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  • D [email protected]

    I mean... A gaming mouse is probably cheaper than the controller alone lol

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    But that controller comes with the console.

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      If you make a game that requires mouse control, then you can't play it when you're away from a desk.

      But-

      If you make a game that works well with either joycon or mouse, then no one will use the mouse.

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      Turn based tactics or 4x games would absolutely benefit from both, and the touch screen. Being able to play Fire Emblem with any of the three depending on what's comfortable at the time would be wonderful.

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        Sure, that's a valid point. But in this case there can be actual mice for the Switch 2 because the games Will support mouse mode.

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        does it support keyboards as well? or how else do you control WASD etc?

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          With the official reveal of the mouse mode for the Switch 2's controllers there is the potential for so many classic games to flood the console.

          Imagine what it could do with graphical adventure games, RTS games, management sims, etc.

          We already know CIV VII will use the mouse, and I just hope this is just the beginning for a whole range of traditionally non-console games to finally make it to the platform.

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          So... its $50 more than an LCD, 256 GB Steam Deck (the Switch 2 is also LCD).

          A Deck has two touchpads that work as mice.

          And you can buy a real mouse with those $50 bucks you saved.

          Oh right and it has a bigger screen, can run almost every modern to ancient PC game, and basically every retro game if you can handle an EmuDeck or RetroDeck guided installer, oh and it also just is a computer that does everything a mid tier linux laptop can do.

          It can even run Switch games, and probably will be able to run Switch 2 games in... what, 2 years? 3 years?

          I'm really not trying to rain on the parade here, but uh... yeah I do not understand the cost benefit analysis on a Switch 2 vs a Deck unless:

          You really, really want to play Switch 2 games soon

          OR

          The Switch 2 somehow has vastly superior performance to a Steam Deck

          ... I kinda doubt that last one being the case, but the specs aren't out yet (afaik) so I guess it is possible.

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            With the official reveal of the mouse mode for the Switch 2's controllers there is the potential for so many classic games to flood the console.

            Imagine what it could do with graphical adventure games, RTS games, management sims, etc.

            We already know CIV VII will use the mouse, and I just hope this is just the beginning for a whole range of traditionally non-console games to finally make it to the platform.

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            That looks much less comfortable than the way the Lenovo Legion handles it.

            ...also the pessimist in me is afraid this will result in less games with gyro aiming support...

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              I doubt that no one will use it. If you make a good input method that works with a decent variety of games, some will switch to it. Perhaps Nintendo could even sell some sort of tray/mousepad that lets you use the mouse decently well while sitting on the couch. It seems odd, but I think it has potential.

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                Not exactly?
                If they make it work nicely on surfaces that aren't perfectly straight, you could use it while playing on the couch.
                Would be particularly amazing if games support switching between modes instantly, so you could for example be playing a game, open your inventory, slap your joycon on the couch to organize your stuff w/ mouse mode, close your inventory and pick it up resuming play in joycon mode 🤯

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                  People use mouse on Xbox. There will always be some

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                    With the official reveal of the mouse mode for the Switch 2's controllers there is the potential for so many classic games to flood the console.

                    Imagine what it could do with graphical adventure games, RTS games, management sims, etc.

                    We already know CIV VII will use the mouse, and I just hope this is just the beginning for a whole range of traditionally non-console games to finally make it to the platform.

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                    The Legion did this and it was stupid. This is just a gimmick at best.

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                      So... its $50 more than an LCD, 256 GB Steam Deck (the Switch 2 is also LCD).

                      A Deck has two touchpads that work as mice.

                      And you can buy a real mouse with those $50 bucks you saved.

                      Oh right and it has a bigger screen, can run almost every modern to ancient PC game, and basically every retro game if you can handle an EmuDeck or RetroDeck guided installer, oh and it also just is a computer that does everything a mid tier linux laptop can do.

                      It can even run Switch games, and probably will be able to run Switch 2 games in... what, 2 years? 3 years?

                      I'm really not trying to rain on the parade here, but uh... yeah I do not understand the cost benefit analysis on a Switch 2 vs a Deck unless:

                      You really, really want to play Switch 2 games soon

                      OR

                      The Switch 2 somehow has vastly superior performance to a Steam Deck

                      ... I kinda doubt that last one being the case, but the specs aren't out yet (afaik) so I guess it is possible.

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                      How well is yuzu on the steam deck to run Zelda games?

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                        So... its $50 more than an LCD, 256 GB Steam Deck (the Switch 2 is also LCD).

                        A Deck has two touchpads that work as mice.

                        And you can buy a real mouse with those $50 bucks you saved.

                        Oh right and it has a bigger screen, can run almost every modern to ancient PC game, and basically every retro game if you can handle an EmuDeck or RetroDeck guided installer, oh and it also just is a computer that does everything a mid tier linux laptop can do.

                        It can even run Switch games, and probably will be able to run Switch 2 games in... what, 2 years? 3 years?

                        I'm really not trying to rain on the parade here, but uh... yeah I do not understand the cost benefit analysis on a Switch 2 vs a Deck unless:

                        You really, really want to play Switch 2 games soon

                        OR

                        The Switch 2 somehow has vastly superior performance to a Steam Deck

                        ... I kinda doubt that last one being the case, but the specs aren't out yet (afaik) so I guess it is possible.

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                        You really, really want to play Switch 2 games soon

                        Or without having to learn to emulate. Or play coop/multiplayer with the joycons.

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                          So... its $50 more than an LCD, 256 GB Steam Deck (the Switch 2 is also LCD).

                          A Deck has two touchpads that work as mice.

                          And you can buy a real mouse with those $50 bucks you saved.

                          Oh right and it has a bigger screen, can run almost every modern to ancient PC game, and basically every retro game if you can handle an EmuDeck or RetroDeck guided installer, oh and it also just is a computer that does everything a mid tier linux laptop can do.

                          It can even run Switch games, and probably will be able to run Switch 2 games in... what, 2 years? 3 years?

                          I'm really not trying to rain on the parade here, but uh... yeah I do not understand the cost benefit analysis on a Switch 2 vs a Deck unless:

                          You really, really want to play Switch 2 games soon

                          OR

                          The Switch 2 somehow has vastly superior performance to a Steam Deck

                          ... I kinda doubt that last one being the case, but the specs aren't out yet (afaik) so I guess it is possible.

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                          The biggest feature of a game console is always the games. So ya, buy it if you think the games are worth it.

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                            From the article:

                            Though the livestream demonstrated the Joy-Con 2’s mouse function on flat surfaces, a press release shared by Nintendo to Business Wire confirms that sliding the Joy-Con 2 controllers over a pair of pants will also work.

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                              So... its $50 more than an LCD, 256 GB Steam Deck (the Switch 2 is also LCD).

                              A Deck has two touchpads that work as mice.

                              And you can buy a real mouse with those $50 bucks you saved.

                              Oh right and it has a bigger screen, can run almost every modern to ancient PC game, and basically every retro game if you can handle an EmuDeck or RetroDeck guided installer, oh and it also just is a computer that does everything a mid tier linux laptop can do.

                              It can even run Switch games, and probably will be able to run Switch 2 games in... what, 2 years? 3 years?

                              I'm really not trying to rain on the parade here, but uh... yeah I do not understand the cost benefit analysis on a Switch 2 vs a Deck unless:

                              You really, really want to play Switch 2 games soon

                              OR

                              The Switch 2 somehow has vastly superior performance to a Steam Deck

                              ... I kinda doubt that last one being the case, but the specs aren't out yet (afaik) so I guess it is possible.

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                              $90 per game. That's an instant deal breaker.

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                                How well is yuzu on the steam deck to run Zelda games?

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                                This comment should be deleted soon

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                                  So... its $50 more than an LCD, 256 GB Steam Deck (the Switch 2 is also LCD).

                                  A Deck has two touchpads that work as mice.

                                  And you can buy a real mouse with those $50 bucks you saved.

                                  Oh right and it has a bigger screen, can run almost every modern to ancient PC game, and basically every retro game if you can handle an EmuDeck or RetroDeck guided installer, oh and it also just is a computer that does everything a mid tier linux laptop can do.

                                  It can even run Switch games, and probably will be able to run Switch 2 games in... what, 2 years? 3 years?

                                  I'm really not trying to rain on the parade here, but uh... yeah I do not understand the cost benefit analysis on a Switch 2 vs a Deck unless:

                                  You really, really want to play Switch 2 games soon

                                  OR

                                  The Switch 2 somehow has vastly superior performance to a Steam Deck

                                  ... I kinda doubt that last one being the case, but the specs aren't out yet (afaik) so I guess it is possible.

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                                  I am a huge proponent of the steam deck but there are a few things you’re kind of leaving out here

                                  1. You would be surprised how many people actually don’t have a mouse on hand. But if they do, you do have to calculate that into the cost.

                                  2. you need a dock or at least a cheap USB-C dongle unless the only thing you plan on hooking up to the steam deck is your mouse, which would be bizarre.

                                  3. The deck is getting a little longer in the tooth. I love it, I use it a ton, but it is definitely starting to show its age.

                                  4. It can’t play Nintendo switch/switch 2 games natively, which many people who shit on Nintendo (I am one of those people don’t get me wrong) tend to forget is a pretty huge part of the appeal of Nintendo platforms.

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                                    So... its $50 more than an LCD, 256 GB Steam Deck (the Switch 2 is also LCD).

                                    A Deck has two touchpads that work as mice.

                                    And you can buy a real mouse with those $50 bucks you saved.

                                    Oh right and it has a bigger screen, can run almost every modern to ancient PC game, and basically every retro game if you can handle an EmuDeck or RetroDeck guided installer, oh and it also just is a computer that does everything a mid tier linux laptop can do.

                                    It can even run Switch games, and probably will be able to run Switch 2 games in... what, 2 years? 3 years?

                                    I'm really not trying to rain on the parade here, but uh... yeah I do not understand the cost benefit analysis on a Switch 2 vs a Deck unless:

                                    You really, really want to play Switch 2 games soon

                                    OR

                                    The Switch 2 somehow has vastly superior performance to a Steam Deck

                                    ... I kinda doubt that last one being the case, but the specs aren't out yet (afaik) so I guess it is possible.

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                                    A Deck has two touchpads that work as mice.

                                    And they suck trying to use them for an FPS.

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                                      $90 per game. That's an instant deal breaker.

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                                      With the added bonus of Nintendo's notoriously infrequent and shitty sales

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                                        So... its $50 more than an LCD, 256 GB Steam Deck (the Switch 2 is also LCD).

                                        A Deck has two touchpads that work as mice.

                                        And you can buy a real mouse with those $50 bucks you saved.

                                        Oh right and it has a bigger screen, can run almost every modern to ancient PC game, and basically every retro game if you can handle an EmuDeck or RetroDeck guided installer, oh and it also just is a computer that does everything a mid tier linux laptop can do.

                                        It can even run Switch games, and probably will be able to run Switch 2 games in... what, 2 years? 3 years?

                                        I'm really not trying to rain on the parade here, but uh... yeah I do not understand the cost benefit analysis on a Switch 2 vs a Deck unless:

                                        You really, really want to play Switch 2 games soon

                                        OR

                                        The Switch 2 somehow has vastly superior performance to a Steam Deck

                                        ... I kinda doubt that last one being the case, but the specs aren't out yet (afaik) so I guess it is possible.

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                                        The Switch 2 footage of Elden Ring did look better than what I can get out of my Steam Deck. I wouldn't be surprised if it has a performance advantage (perhaps thanks to native DLSS and frame generation) for the next year or two.

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                                          $90 per game. That's an instant deal breaker.

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                                          wait wait wait.

                                          Fucking... what?

                                          ... Are they trying to preempt the expected 'GTA 6 MSRPs for $120, base edition and breaks all video game pricing' thing?

                                          I'm seeing $80 for Mario Kart World.

                                          puts on eyepatch and peg leg

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