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I'm highly skeptical unless we're excluding Jewish journalists who were killed for being Jewish, not journalists.

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    I'm highly skeptical unless we're excluding Jewish journalists who were killed for being Jewish, not journalists.

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      News Graveyards: How Dangers to War Reporters Endanger the World

      Israel is deliberately targeting journalists in Gaza: Experts

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        News Graveyards: How Dangers to War Reporters Endanger the World

        Israel is deliberately targeting journalists in Gaza: Experts

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        Their source doesn't seem reliable. They use a singular source (https://www.freedomforum.org/journalists-memorial/) for their WW1 and WW2 numbers.

        It's rather easy to see how these numbers are very much incomplete.

        Why? It says that during WW2 a total of 10 journalists were killed in Germany - yet not one of them was German. With ~1.1 million German civilian deaths, I'd argue there were realistically a couple hundred German journalists among them at the very least. Sure, they were journalists for state propaganda outlets and I cannot bring myself to care about nazi propagandists. Yet they were journalists nonetheless who should be included in statistics.

        And this doesn't even begin to encompass all other countries where many more millions of civilians were killed. There is not a chance in hell the number of journalist deaths during WW2 is even in the same ballpark as ~60. 10,000 would be my lower estimate.

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          Their source doesn't seem reliable. They use a singular source (https://www.freedomforum.org/journalists-memorial/) for their WW1 and WW2 numbers.

          It's rather easy to see how these numbers are very much incomplete.

          Why? It says that during WW2 a total of 10 journalists were killed in Germany - yet not one of them was German. With ~1.1 million German civilian deaths, I'd argue there were realistically a couple hundred German journalists among them at the very least. Sure, they were journalists for state propaganda outlets and I cannot bring myself to care about nazi propagandists. Yet they were journalists nonetheless who should be included in statistics.

          And this doesn't even begin to encompass all other countries where many more millions of civilians were killed. There is not a chance in hell the number of journalist deaths during WW2 is even in the same ballpark as ~60. 10,000 would be my lower estimate.

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          If you find some more sources, I'd be interested

          IFJ White Paper on Global Journalism which goes into detail about journalists killed from 1990-2020. From that data the amount of journalists killed per year in a conflict is still highest in Gaza, with the Iraq War coming very close in 2006 and 2007.

          I can't find detailed data about Journalists killed in older conflicts, if you find some please share

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            If you find some more sources, I'd be interested

            IFJ White Paper on Global Journalism which goes into detail about journalists killed from 1990-2020. From that data the amount of journalists killed per year in a conflict is still highest in Gaza, with the Iraq War coming very close in 2006 and 2007.

            I can't find detailed data about Journalists killed in older conflicts, if you find some please share

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            “Oh no number must be wrong it shouldnt be 100 it is 99”. Genocidal war crime colonial dont care about what the number means they focus more on whatever they can to discredit whatever happen taking the direction of the topic away from the fact that alot of journalist are targeted by Israel because of the coverage.

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              “Oh no number must be wrong it shouldnt be 100 it is 99”. Genocidal war crime colonial dont care about what the number means they focus more on whatever they can to discredit whatever happen taking the direction of the topic away from the fact that alot of journalist are targeted by Israel because of the coverage.

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              Yeah, hyperfocusing on the amount entirely misses the genocidal actions and intent. Even if the numbers weren't accurate, that wouldn't change anything (if anything, it's a huge undercount)

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                Yeah, hyperfocusing on the amount entirely misses the genocidal actions and intent. Even if the numbers weren't accurate, that wouldn't change anything (if anything, it's a huge undercount)

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                This isn't 99 vs 100 tires is orders of magnitude of. Israel shouldn't be targeting journalists. But there are all sorts of people they shouldn't be targeting. They're bad enough when we tell the truth, let's not lie.

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                  This isn't 99 vs 100 tires is orders of magnitude of. Israel shouldn't be targeting journalists. But there are all sorts of people they shouldn't be targeting. They're bad enough when we tell the truth, let's not lie.

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                  Sorry, what did I lie about?

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