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The world reacts to Trump's sweeping tariffs: 'No basis in logic'

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  • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

    Summary

    Global leaders criticized Trump’s new tariffs, which range from 10% to 49%, warning of trade wars and economic fallout.

    The UK and Italy urged negotiation, while Brazil passed a reciprocity bill. China and South Korea vowed countermeasures.

    Australia and New Zealand rejected Trump’s logic, citing existing trade deals and low tariffs. Norfolk Island was baffled by a 29% duty despite having no exports.

    Financial markets dropped, oil and bitcoin sank, and leaders warned of inflation. Analysts say Trump risks fracturing global trade with little to gain economically.

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    Of course there is logic, but not the logic most politicians want to admit. This is simply:

    "Nice global economy. It would be a shame if something happened to it. Maybe we can come to an understanding, and this whole tariff thing goes away. You do want free trade, don't you?"

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      Lmao wat.

      I’d ask if you’re serious, but I’m also sure you are.

      Honestly, I was expecting this administration to be mind-numbingly stupid, but somehow they keep finding ways to surpass my expectations on that front on a daily basis. I’d be impressed if it wasn’t so catastrophic.

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      from Mastodon: “tariffs by ChatGPT”

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        Those penguins are trying to rip off America! It's about time they pay their fair share

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        I’ve never once heard a penguin say thank you.

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        • sludgehammer@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

          and the price of bitcoin dropped 4.4%.

          I cannot express how much I hate that this appears in a serious economic article.

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          You don't like hearing about made up currency with no backing that's primarily used for pump and dump schemes and money laundering?

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          • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

            Summary

            Global leaders criticized Trump’s new tariffs, which range from 10% to 49%, warning of trade wars and economic fallout.

            The UK and Italy urged negotiation, while Brazil passed a reciprocity bill. China and South Korea vowed countermeasures.

            Australia and New Zealand rejected Trump’s logic, citing existing trade deals and low tariffs. Norfolk Island was baffled by a 29% duty despite having no exports.

            Financial markets dropped, oil and bitcoin sank, and leaders warned of inflation. Analysts say Trump risks fracturing global trade with little to gain economically.

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            What about Israel? Aren't they sucking you dry? Perhaps add some tariffs there?

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              You don't like hearing about made up currency with no backing that's primarily used for pump and dump schemes and money laundering?

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              But arent all fiat currencies made up since there's no gold standard backing them.

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                I hope the EU reacts with something non-tariffy. Like forbidding US online platforms to serve ads and collect personal data, with severe punishments if they still do.

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                Yes that would be amazing and a great stimulant for EU companies to start developing a competing platform of it's own (we have BeReal, Dailymotion, Medal and Dumpert, but they aren't very big AFAIK)

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                • sludgehammer@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                  Shortly after Trump’s announcement, the British government said the United States remains the U.K.’s “closest ally.”

                  I'm sorry TERF island, that's not gonna keep Trump from stabbing you in the back too.

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                  It's heartbreaking, really.

                  The UK is like a kid who just got his face covered in mud by bullies, and goes "aren't my friends wonderful for playing with me?".

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                  • A [email protected]

                    ok, then...

                    i have a huge trade deficit with walmart.

                    i buy way more from them than they do from me ($1200-1500 a year vs $0); just like the u.s. buys more from many countries than those countries buy from the u.s.

                    like the leaky diaper's new tariffsimport tax, i should charge myself a ridiculously high extra tax on purchases from walmart until they buy $1200-1500 a year of some mythical product from me to even out the 'unfair' imbalance?

                    yea. that'll work.

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                    Sounds like you had better open a diaper factory in your house. Then you wouldn't have to pay the tariff that you are charging yourself.

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                      But arent all fiat currencies made up since there's no gold standard backing them.

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                      If I can't pay my taxes with it, it isn't a real currency.

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                      • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                        Summary

                        Global leaders criticized Trump’s new tariffs, which range from 10% to 49%, warning of trade wars and economic fallout.

                        The UK and Italy urged negotiation, while Brazil passed a reciprocity bill. China and South Korea vowed countermeasures.

                        Australia and New Zealand rejected Trump’s logic, citing existing trade deals and low tariffs. Norfolk Island was baffled by a 29% duty despite having no exports.

                        Financial markets dropped, oil and bitcoin sank, and leaders warned of inflation. Analysts say Trump risks fracturing global trade with little to gain economically.

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                        All the goods that Trump excempts from tarrifs is tipping his hand. If I were one of these countries like Taiwan where semiconductors are exempted, I would apply an export duty equal to the tarrif on other goods. If you want to tarrif me fine but you're going to have to commit.

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                          ok, then...

                          i have a huge trade deficit with walmart.

                          i buy way more from them than they do from me ($1200-1500 a year vs $0); just like the u.s. buys more from many countries than those countries buy from the u.s.

                          like the leaky diaper's new tariffsimport tax, i should charge myself a ridiculously high extra tax on purchases from walmart until they buy $1200-1500 a year of some mythical product from me to even out the 'unfair' imbalance?

                          yea. that'll work.

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                          I think Trump doesn’t want to trade at all. He wants us to produce everything we need.

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                            I think Trump doesn’t want to trade at all. He wants us to produce everything we need.

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                            Just like Mussolini.

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                              Just like Mussolini.

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                              and see how well that turned out?

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                                and see how well that turned out?

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                                I am getting a slight hint that that is exactly what Trump wants.

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                                  Yes that would be amazing and a great stimulant for EU companies to start developing a competing platform of it's own (we have BeReal, Dailymotion, Medal and Dumpert, but they aren't very big AFAIK)

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                                  Having Non-US platforms would be nice, yes, But leaving the US-based ones without ad revenue and a shit-ton of users would be nice, too.

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                                    and see how well that turned out?

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                                    One can only dream.
                                    Joking there is no Resistenza in the USA.

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                                      and see how well that turned out?

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                                      I am really afraid that this is what America is coming to. The problem is that we have a third of the country that supports the Mango Mussolini.

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                                      • bytejunk@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

                                        If I can't pay my taxes with it, it isn't a real currency.

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                                        By that logic you don't think foreign currencies are real?

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                                        • bytejunk@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

                                          If I can't pay my taxes with it, it isn't a real currency.

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                                          I pay my taxes with Euros so I guess Mericuhn Dollers are not a real currency

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