Switch 2 mouse mode (such potential)
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Do you think that? I just think their approach is not getting inventive with games that are better suited for mouse gaming, because I can tell playing those games with traditional controllers seems like a chore.
With a PC you get both
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With a PC you get both
Well, PC ain't a handheld, unless you add streaming (local or externally) or a dedicated machine like the Steam Deck to the equation, that would definitely be something about the 450 bucks Nintey asks.
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Well, PC ain't a handheld, unless you add streaming (local or externally) or a dedicated machine like the Steam Deck to the equation, that would definitely be something about the 450 bucks Nintey asks.
PC = personal computer
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That looks much less comfortable than the way the Lenovo Legion handles it.
...also the pessimist in me is afraid this will result in less games with gyro aiming support...
I mean...gyro support is such a niche thing. The PS3 controller introduced gyro support - what used it? There's examples, but not many, because most games are made to be multi platform, and programming in gyro controls is a lot harder than most other controls
Nintendo is an exception because they have a lot of exclusives - gyro support is a lot more appealing to implement if all of the devices have it, plus they probably encouraged it
I wouldn't worry about it too much, the incentive for exclusives to have it remains, this is a tool for porting to the switch and exploring new control schemes more than anything else
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$90 per game. That's an instant deal breaker.
Plus the Switch barely had any exclusive games. For a Nintendo console anyway. Perhaps that‘s something Nintendo is working on now, but I doubt it can compete with PC games in terms of bang you get for your buck. There‘s just no way.
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$80 digital. $90 physical. With the added spite that the "physical" copy is just a cartridge that loads a code for the game download. It's just a $10 plastic box with an SD card with a download code inside.
It‘s interesting they abandoned physical media completely and nobody is talking about it. This makes them a direct competitor to Steam and well… let‘s just say I don‘t see 90% discounts in the Nintendo shop any time soon.
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You really, really want to play Switch 2 games soon
Or without having to learn to emulate. Or play coop/multiplayer with the joycons.
To be fair, there is no guarantee you‘ll be able to emulate Switch 2 games as soon and easily as Switch games. You just might, but we really don‘t know for sure.
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The Switch 2 footage of Elden Ring did look better than what I can get out of my Steam Deck. I wouldn't be surprised if it has a performance advantage (perhaps thanks to native DLSS and frame generation) for the next year or two.
I mean with those price tags you expect games to look better. Anything else would be ridiculous.
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It‘s interesting they abandoned physical media completely and nobody is talking about it. This makes them a direct competitor to Steam and well… let‘s just say I don‘t see 90% discounts in the Nintendo shop any time soon.
I don‘t see 90% discounts in the Nintendo shop
Not 1st party sure, but there is a weekly deal cycle where 3rd party publishers compete to stand out.
https://www.dekudeals.com/games?filter[platform]=switch&filter[format]=digital
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With the official reveal of the mouse mode for the Switch 2's controllers there is the potential for so many classic games to flood the console.
Imagine what it could do with graphical adventure games, RTS games, management sims, etc.
We already know CIV VII will use the mouse, and I just hope this is just the beginning for a whole range of traditionally non-console games to finally make it to the platform.
It's a funny gimmick but all the competitors already have support mouse and keyboard.
You can also use them in some games like Sims 4 or Cities: Skylines.But guess this mouse mode could also encourage 3rd party developers to add mouse and keyboard support for their games on consoles.
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So... its $50 more than an LCD, 256 GB Steam Deck (the Switch 2 is also LCD).
A Deck has two touchpads that work as mice.
And you can buy a real mouse with those $50 bucks you saved.
Oh right and it has a bigger screen, can run almost every modern to ancient PC game, and basically every retro game if you can handle an EmuDeck or RetroDeck guided installer, oh and it also just is a computer that does everything a mid tier linux laptop can do.
It can even run Switch games, and probably will be able to run Switch 2 games in... what, 2 years? 3 years?
I'm really not trying to rain on the parade here, but uh... yeah I do not understand the cost benefit analysis on a Switch 2 vs a Deck unless:
You really, really want to play Switch 2 games soon
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The Switch 2 somehow has vastly superior performance to a Steam Deck
... I kinda doubt that last one being the case, but the specs aren't out yet (afaik) so I guess it is possible.
From my 12y old kids perspective:
The switch 2 plays fortnite and Mario kart. The steamdeck doesn't.
There is no difficult choice for him.
He doesn't give a fuck about anything else. Neither do his friends.
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I agree with everything except #5. If you want to play couch multiplayer for the switch with two people you’re set with the tiny joycons. If you want any comfort playing those games you’re investing in at LEAST as many controllers as you have couch players and the same can be said about the deck. But the Deck has options and years of hardware options that are far more inexpensive than the $90 joycons or $80 pro controllers at launch. Given time I’m sure there may be options for the S2 but I think the Deck has far more inexpensive options for multiplayer.
That said, the deck dock is expensive so maybe my argument is entirely moot.
A 10usd Chinese knockoff Bluetooth controller works well enough for multi-player. The true little brother experience is to play with the shitty controller.
For the steam deck, you'd have to buy 2 controllers (potentially both shitty), so the benefit for the switch is still there.
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$90 per game. That's an instant deal breaker.
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I don‘t see 90% discounts in the Nintendo shop
Not 1st party sure, but there is a weekly deal cycle where 3rd party publishers compete to stand out.
https://www.dekudeals.com/games?filter[platform]=switch&filter[format]=digital
That's something at least. Now Nintendo needs to actually advertise their shop and those deals instead of yet another wave of retro ports.
Though it's probably worth mentioning I'm not going to buy a Switch 2 anyway. I'm more of an observer from the PC gaming sidelines.
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It apes what lenovo already did and will be equally janky if not worse. At least it comes bundled with the console, but, meh.
Meh is my reaction, mostly if the games are $80 USD.
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Meh is my reaction, mostly if the games are $80 USD.
Predicted to hit 90$. That is batshit insane.
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Predicted to hit 90$. That is batshit insane.
And I'm Canadian, so it's already almost $105... We're talking $120 if it goes to 90 USD. Noooo thanks.
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From my 12y old kids perspective:
The switch 2 plays fortnite and Mario kart. The steamdeck doesn't.
There is no difficult choice for him.
He doesn't give a fuck about anything else. Neither do his friends.
Yeah I think Lemmy often forgets that kids exist and are the target audience for Nintendo games. I say good for them, it might be hella expensive but at least Nintendo appears to be providing a "safe" place for kids to use the internet. There's really nothing for kids anymore these days other than getting an eating disorder on tiktok.
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From my 12y old kids perspective:
The switch 2 plays fortnite and Mario kart. The steamdeck doesn't.
There is no difficult choice for him.
He doesn't give a fuck about anything else. Neither do his friends.
Yep, I already said the Switch 2 makes sense if all you care about is playing Switch 2 games.
I am not trying to aruge that the Deck is just hands down, inherently superior in all cases, for everyone.
I hope there's a way for you to put parental controls on your 12 yo's Fortnite account's ability to buy microtransactions, and that you have enough time to teach them how to identify and disregard all the dark patterns in the game that encourage irresponsible spending habits, as well as resist all the social peer pressure that comes with an MTX heavy game.
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With the official reveal of the mouse mode for the Switch 2's controllers there is the potential for so many classic games to flood the console.
Imagine what it could do with graphical adventure games, RTS games, management sims, etc.
We already know CIV VII will use the mouse, and I just hope this is just the beginning for a whole range of traditionally non-console games to finally make it to the platform.
I can't wait for it to be a thing that only a small handful of actually good 3rd party titles use that feature and the rest are gonna be 1st party titles shoehorning it in to say "Look at our fancy new feature we swear nobody has ever done before! Trust me!".
