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YouTube removes 'gender identity' from hate speech policy

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  • C [email protected]

    Of course everyone is allowed to speak their mind. But being called names for not supporting a particular point of view sounds like hate speech to me, wouldn't you agree?

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    abusive or threatening speech or writing that expresses prejudice on the basis of ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, or most importantly against people who have just the worst takes.

    Hmmm, checks out. I guess the technology platform, YouTube, should get right on that after they straighten out this horrible policy change.

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      PeerTube isn’t bad, it just has no content

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      It seems so difficult to use though

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      • G [email protected]

        Man this whole anticipatory compliance with the fascist regime shit is fucking awful

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        It's like Roko's Basilisk playing out in real time, except instead of building a malignant computer out of fear it's accelerating a fascist takeover.

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        • A [email protected]

          No, but I think most of the people on Lemmy should know better than that.

          Looks at Hexbear, .ml, and to some extent Blahaj

          Oh, who am I kidding.

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          Yeah its quite echo chambery here

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          • eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.comE [email protected]

            More proof Rainbow Capitalism was a lie/ad campaign to take more money from queers.

            I wish I could rub this in the face of every cishet who said Rainbow Capitalism was actual progress.

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            (For reference: I am cishet, but have family & friends in the LGBTQ+ community and consider myself an ally.) Usually just lurk, but I feel you so badly.

            I've been saying it forever as well. They're spending millions, to specifically target/advertise/appeal to the community... out of the goodness of their hearts? Right.

            Then as soon as its "over", the facade drops and its on to the next big event/target market. Rinse and repeat.

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            • C [email protected]

              Sure, you can't always separate the technology from the politics, my issue was that this is what most posts around here are about. I took a look and most content comes a few accounts, and it's always about the "nazi this" and "fascist that". Is that really only thing that happens in the tech space, what Musk said and what YouTube changed in their policy?

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              Most of the top feed I see is against AI

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              • eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.comE [email protected]

                More proof Rainbow Capitalism was a lie/ad campaign to take more money from queers.

                I wish I could rub this in the face of every cishet who said Rainbow Capitalism was actual progress.

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                I mean, in the past companies wouldn't be caught dead associating with LGBTQ+ people, let alone take their money. Now LGBTQ+ is acceptable enough for predatory advertising so...idk progress from like a fucked up capitalist perspective I guess?

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                • C [email protected]

                  Speaking about false equivalence, how did you came to the conclusion that just because I don't find a corporation removing gender stuff from their policies relevant from a technological stand point - makes me an LGBT hater? You seem to already have made your mind, you probably did assume that I'm a trump supporter who wanna see gays being hanged, even though I was saying that I expected more tech and less gender politics from this sub.

                  There are a lot of subs dedicated to LGBT, I came here for tech. Which sub would in your opinion be more appropriate for tech talk if not this one?

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                  When big Tech, especially the biggest video platform in the world, does something lile this it is relevant to tech. The better question is, if you do support lgbtq+ people, why the public freakout about mentioning a far reaching tech policy, by one of the biggest (if not THE biggest) tech companies against them on a tech sub?

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                  • southsamurai@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                    So, sundar pinchai can be added to the list of CEOs that suck?

                    Because a lot of the time, it's weird that when the company does nasty shit, nobody names him as the head asshole in charge the way that other companies and ceos get handled.

                    The dude has been in the driver's seat for pretty much every major deterioration of Google/alphabet for years.

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                    it’s weird that when the company does nasty shit, nobody names him as the head asshole in charge the way that other companies and ceos get handled.

                    hard to remember name (for americans, europeans, or at least me) i assume
                    compare that to "Spez" which is very, very easy to remember and plaster around as the one evil to blame for a systems behavior

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                    • H [email protected]

                      It's almost impressive how quickly the whole of the business world capitulated to Donald Trump.

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                      They didn't capitulate. They never fought. They just did what was the best shot at earning money and gaining ground at the time.

                      Don't ever expect moral based behavior in capitalism or geopolitics.

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                      • ? Guest

                        It's always a question of money. It costs money to make quality content. YouTube has content because they share ad revenue to their content providers. That expands the more popular the content is because there are more ads displayed. That revenue lets the creators expand their capabilities with better gear and stage sets. Federated networks usually depend initially on volunteers and alternative ways of earning revenue for those instances besides ads.

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                        Tbh money could be the initiative. So many content creators nowadays have platforms beside YouTube. If a federated alternative would come up, they could just set up an own server and keep all the earnings.

                        This would somehow need to get started though. No idea how.

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                          I will never understand people who identify as leftist that refuse to understand that under our current economic model people require money to survive and if they do not get money for doing their creative work they might not be able to continue making that work.

                          It is not selfish to want to be payed for working on something like a video that in some cases takes hundreds of man hours of work to complete. There is a reason that the quality of content available on youtube has gone up massively. Say what you want about the writing but there is no way that something like helluva boss could ever have been made entirely online before youtube.

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                          It's because some people don't actually support workers, especially creative workers, regardless or their political identity.

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                          • G [email protected]

                            Keep using uorigin for blocking as. Also use Firefox.

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                            Switch to AdNauseam.

                            It clicks ads in addition to blocking them.

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                              Why specifically creatives? There are so many other professions that are more important to someones everyday life and no one seems to hold the same vitriol at them valuing their time that people do for creatives. I don't see people suggesting that nurses get a day job and do nursing on the side.

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                              It has to do with the societal consequences of how them "valuing their time" impacts people. Nurses refusing to do volunteer nursing has little impact on the overall system of access to healthcare.

                              Healthcare is heavily regulated through legislation, and is going to be free or paid or corporate or not corporate largely as a result of the legislation. Nurses can't just do what they want. People who are concerned about the state of healthcare should therefore change things by targeting legislation, not by targeting nurses.

                              Creative work is not like this. Creatives refusing to do do volunteer creative work means that either they will charge for their work, which creates a barrier to access, or they will use (and push others to use) platforms like YouTube and TokTok that make money from ad data.

                              The former choice results in class differences in access to art, and the latter choice results in everyone using platforms that have proven themselves to be hostile to minoritized groups and progressive causes. These outcomes aren't legislated -- they are the result of creatives choosing to "value their time".

                              In otherwords, creatives choosing to "value their time" means that they will happily enforce class-based restrictions in access to art, and will happily support conservative corporations and surveillance capitalism.

                              And I practice what I preach, too. I have spent hundreds of hours developing free software and making free educational materials for people, donating my labour to support progressive causes and supporting others who do the same. Creatives who insist on charging for their work are a ball and chain on the movements I support. They are leeches and class traitors.

                              Creatives should value other people. Fuck their time.

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                                I mean, in the past companies wouldn't be caught dead associating with LGBTQ+ people, let alone take their money. Now LGBTQ+ is acceptable enough for predatory advertising so...idk progress from like a fucked up capitalist perspective I guess?

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                                Rainbow line must go up

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                                  I used newpipe for a long time, currently using a fork called pipepipe. I forgot why I switched lol

                                  https://pipepipe.dev/

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                                  Probably for SponsorBlock.

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                                    The buffer only stores one video, for direct user experience purposes only, and is wiped upon playback of a subsequent video.

                                    Well that’s just my assumption based on the company’s data privacy reputation (lul I grinned typing that)


                                    Love how aggressive Alphabet’s Google’s YouTube is after watch history’s disabled.

                                    WATCH HISTORY OFF!! CLICK TO ENABLE (NO RECOMMENDATIONS B/C YOU DESERVE A BLANK PAGE) OTHERWISE, AGAIN !PLEASE! !!CLICK!!

                                    #darkpattern

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                                    I think it store more if you gave history on.
                                    Anyway the recommended are still there at the end of the video or sidebar. But yeah shitty dark pattern

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                                      You're right. They didn't.

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                                      The delulu is strong with this one.

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                                        I'm a little bit confused on this: if you visit the policy page now it does (at least for me, in Europe) still list "Sex, Gender, or Sexual Orientation" as a protected group in that exact same list. Obviously slightly different as they've combined a couple of different groups in there where previously they were delineated: plus I wonder if this is potentially showing because I'm in a different region. Would be interested to see what someone in NA sees: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2801939

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                                          Switch to AdNauseam.

                                          It clicks ads in addition to blocking them.

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                                          What does this achieve other than funneling money from companies' advertising budget to Google a little faster?

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