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6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

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  • E [email protected]

    Yep, I feel like people overestimate how much anyone cares about official support or security patches or whatever. People will assume it's fine until they're either forced out or something goes horribly wrong.

    Regular folks will most likely let it be if possible, until it's time for a new PC anyway.

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    My brother in law was still using windows 7 and it had never occurred to him that this might be a security risk. Normal people don't care.

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      Can Linux run Valorant?

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      No Kernel level anti cheat will ever work on linux. But probably Windows will disable the possibillity to manipulate on kernel level either in the future.

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      • wreckedcarzz@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

        Running an EoL operating system is surely what you want to do with your personal dat-

        Aaaaaaand it's been compromised

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        I'm pretty sure all personal data leaks to me and my friends and family have nothing to do with personal EOL OS on personal PCs/laptops.

        My Dad, ran Windows 7 (yes, 7) until he passed last year, almost 80. We had his credit locked down, we had antivirus running, we kept the browsers up to date, and he was very good about not clicking weird links or calling fake support numbers.

        His biggest data breach (and ours too)? Was from myChart a couple years ago, he got a letter that his data was part of the big hack, yada yada yada free credit reporting - so sorry. If you don't know, myChart is like The Main medical everything portal in the US at least for most doctors and hospital systems. So all your test results, making appointments, sending messages, requesting Rx refills, all through myChart's website. The hospitals and doctors using MyChart can see pretty much everything in your myChart health record (some exceptions)

        So using super secure OS on your personal computer means nothing when you are part of a hundreds of millions data dump from someone hacking into that. Not having an account just means you don't have access to your own records, they are still part of the system.

        But Yes, I was in the process of getting Dad an upgrade to a flavor of Linux that would be the closest to what he was used to. And the only reason was because browser support was coming to EOL for Windows 7. He really didn't want to change or lose his solitaire games and he deserved a stress-free life to play his damn games like he wanted.

        THAT SAID - if businesses are using EOL OS and getting hacked - they definitely need to do whatever they need to do and protect their customer data. But EOL OS for an average person checking email, making doctor's appointments, checking headlines, and playing solitaire while streaming music certainly doesn't call for a need to panic.

        IF you are a power user doing sometimes sketch things (according to Apple/MS anyway) probably switch to Linux sooner than later.

        We have computers running Linux, Windows 10 (one of which was on 8.1 until a year ago), and Windows 11 in our house. The one on 11 is being tested basically, and will probably be reinstalled with Linux. But we are trying to give it a shot.

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          Already did and it's glorious! Steam works beautifully and the only final thing that I'm missing is Adobe products.

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          As long as you're running KDE, it will feel familiar to a Windows user. I started with Kubuntu which was great until I had a system update, and it completely shat itself. Wanted to try Bazzite next, but the installer wouldn't work properly, so I installed OpenSUSE Tumbleweed, and I've seen no reason to switch since.

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            Already did and it's glorious! Steam works beautifully and the only final thing that I'm missing is Adobe products.

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            If you're into primarily gaming, try PikaOS. It's Debian based and uses the same tooling, but it's on an optimized kernel. Is generally geared toward gaming.

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              Can Linux run Valorant?

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              No.

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              • O [email protected]

                Yeah I can't say I've used it myself but it seems pretty straightforward and very in line with SteamOS philosophies.

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                Very much so. Even for non-gaming, most stuff works out of the box from the package manager, everything else you can get working with a distrobox. Ended up getting blender to work better on Bazzite with AMD GPU rendering than I could on Windows lol

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                • S [email protected]

                  Make the jump to Linux and loose 90% of the games you play as well. If all you play is steam games and don't care about many that can't be played then sure.
                  I get the appeal. But windows 11 is the same thing as 10.

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                  Pretty much, 1% of games don't work on Linux and its the top 1% most popular games

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                    Have you ever seen how to draw a circle in GIMP?

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                    I think torrenting a copy of Photoshop would be faster than drawing a circle in GIMP

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                    • apeman42@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                      Can anyone recommend a distro (and desktop environment?) that's going to be almost the same as desktop mode on the Steam deck? I'm getting more comfortable in that than I expected to be in any Linux, and to my surprise and delight I haven't had to delve into the command line at all yet.

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                      https://docs.bazzite.gg/General/Installation_Guide/Installing_Bazzite_for_Desktop_or_Laptop_Hardware/

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                      • infinitehench@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                        Can I ask how you got Win11? And are we talking MS feature bloat or third party stuff? I had Micro Center build my PC so it didn’t come from a manufacturer. There doesn’t seem to be any third party bloat, besides the occasional fucking ad for an app in the Start menu.

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                        The ads for apps, Xbox games, trial versions of Office preinstalled, the minesweeper and solitaire collection that are preinstalled but actually ad supported or non-free, depending on the region spotify/TikTok/Facebook also come preinstalled, "Movies & TV", Bing/MS News...

                        I think all of those count as bloat. I haven't included Edge because I guess having a browser is a necessity, or copilot/cortana because you said "excluding AI features".

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                        • jimerson@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

                          Unless you're using NVIDIA. Didn't work out of the box for me and required a couple hours of fiddling. Mint worked seamlessly.

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                          Manjaro with KDE Plasma has been working pretty flawlessly with an nvidia card for me.

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                            I have personally been using Linux for a few years now and I absolutely love it, however a lot of people will switch to Linux and be extremely disappointed. If you're going into Linux expecting an open source Windows clone you'll be solely mistaken. If you want an operating system that looks and works exactly like W11 youll be better off installing W11 and using something like classic shell. However if you're willing to accept that its a completely different OS (so it naturally will work differently and have different software) then go ahead.

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                            • ninjaturtle@lemmy.todayN [email protected]

                              If you can install another driver onto the computer, you can put Linux on that and kept the windows OS still, in case you need it. This is dual booting. You chose which OS you want when booting up.

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                              Is this something that's relatively fool proof to do? I'm very good at imagining disasters. That's the big mental block I got when I thought about dual booting before.

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                                I went with Mint but I'm thinking about KDE (or maybe KDE flavored Arch? Idk I'm new) on my second computer. Pretty painless?

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                                I went to Manjaro (Arch) with KDE from Mint about 5 months ago, and it's been nearly flawless, allowed me to easily install a real time processing kernel for audio production, and it's run every game I've thrown at it better than Winblows.

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                                  The approach isn’t what became a joke, it was the absolutely unhinged way in which it was presented.

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                                  Oh sure, it was crazy. But the sentiment behind it was good. It's like how Howard Dean got dunked on for his scream.

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                                    I spent a couple hours trying to get Baldur's Gate 3 running on Linux. It was rough but I got it to run at 1440 but the latency made it sort of unplayable. It runs great in Windows 10 at 4k with the default settings. I have some other windows-only software so I guess I'm going to "upgrade" all my computers that are able to do so but I don't feel good about it. All my computers dual boot windows/linux, I would love to be linux-only.

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                                      For now yes but when a zero day is found 1 guy could literally take down every single 10 install and Microsoft won’t be bothered to fix it

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                                      I mean... That could happen to Windows11 and be almost as catastrophic even if Microsoft does eventually fix it.

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                                        IIRC W11 share is barely near W10 and they are already forcing it out and crapton of perfectly usable hardware, if it is not planned obsolescence i don't know what it is? Fuck microsoft!

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                                        I want to point out, planned obsolescence only really applies to their surface offerings.

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                                          I gave Linux Mint a try last week when I received the news about the obligatory MS account for W11. Not that I'll "upgrade" to W11 but anyway.

                                          Very smooth installation experience. The OS and software like Steam, Brave, Nvidia drivers and some audio & video stuff installed through the package control in no time. I could actually work with it.

                                          Half of my game library is made only for W though. Or the small blocker things like GTA V that works well in Mint in story mode, the Battleye thing won't start of course, so expect no GTA Online in Mint either.

                                          I think I'll keep Linux Mint and Windows under dual boot and use Windows only when necessary. Or run W10 in a virtual box in Mint 😎.

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                                          I was able to run SimTower on Linux. I haven't tried SimCoopter, but there are so many bugs in that game it likely won't work lol

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