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Germany is now deporting pro-Palestine EU citizens. This is a chilling new step | Hanno Hauenstein

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  • C [email protected]

    Surprise?

    I mean, who else would have been able to run the government, when most people with the required skills were also associated with the Former system.

    Americans deliberately counted on the expertise of former Nazis. Thats not news and actually not very shocking.

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    I mean, who else would have been able to run the government

    Holocaust survivors and refugees, for starters. Germany was fully occupied by the US and USSR, so all the big decisions were going through DC/Moscow anyway. Turning the government over to survivors and any resisters you could find would have made far more sense than simply handing the country back to the Fascists.

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      So freedom of speech shouldn't allow people to say that apartheid South Africa should exist? That Nazi Germany shouldn't be allowed to exist?

      I can remember when opposing apartheid ethnostates was the correct moral opinion.

      What happened?

      What makes Israel different?

      Or are double standards prove anti semitism when their negative?

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      There is a line between criticizing a state and arguing for its destruction/dehumanizing their people.

      And tbh for my taste that line gets crossed to often in discussions about Israel and Palestine.

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        Strawman! There is an active ongoing genocide against Palestinians right now, that is the reality, not the one you just made up

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        Can you read?

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          Have you even read the article you’re citing? It literally says :

          The Economy Ministry said on Thursday there was no ban on arms exports to Israel and there would not be one

          Also, German arms exports to Israel increase, contradicting government reports

          Germany's arms exports to Israel are much higher than the government said they were, with new numbers showing the government approved exports worth €94 million since August alone.

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          If reducing weapon exports by nearly 99% (going from billions to thousands to no approvals in last 6 months is insane difference, wake up) is still bad for you, then.. ehh, you people are out for blood. You do not care about any form of sane approach to the problems, you wish to reach for extrememities and do things that would make even Natenyahu (hopefully wrote that right) proud.

          I do not feel safe here, I feel like in ISIS HQ

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            If reducing weapon exports by nearly 99% (going from billions to thousands to no approvals in last 6 months is insane difference, wake up) is still bad for you, then.. ehh, you people are out for blood. You do not care about any form of sane approach to the problems, you wish to reach for extrememities and do things that would make even Natenyahu (hopefully wrote that right) proud.

            I do not feel safe here, I feel like in ISIS HQ

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            Keep on moving the goalposts.

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              Keep on moving the goalposts.

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              ???

              Okay, prove to me Germany has exported millions of weapons to Israel in 2025 so far, because I'm seriously starting to think you guys have room temperature IQ

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                There is a line between criticizing a state and arguing for its destruction/dehumanizing their people.

                And tbh for my taste that line gets crossed to often in discussions about Israel and Palestine.

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                Some States do not deserve criticism.

                Some States deserve destruction.

                The south in the US civil war: deserved to be destroyed.

                Nazi Germany: deserved to be destroyed.

                All apartheid ethno-states: deserve to be destroyed.

                You don't like that last one? Explain to me why Rhodesia should exist.

                It seems to me that people that think arguing for the destruction of apartheid ethnostates think that way because they are racist against brown people.

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                  ???

                  Okay, prove to me Germany has exported millions of weapons to Israel in 2025 so far, because I'm seriously starting to think you guys have room temperature IQ

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                  Breath mate

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                    Breath mate

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                    Breathe*

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                      What the actual fuck is going on with humanity?

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                      People who want extreme 'order' are really good at organizing and fund raising, and breaking the law and daring the rest of us to do something about it. People who like making sure everyone has rights and those rights are protected aren't.

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                        Germany has recently taken a chilling new step, signalling its willingness to use political views as grounds to curb migration. Authorities are now moving to deport foreign nationals for participating in pro-Palestine actions. As I reported this week in the Intercept, four people in Berlin – three EU citizens and one US citizen – are set to be deported over their involvement in demonstrations against Israel’s war on Gaza. None of the four have been convicted of a crime, and yet the authorities are seeking to simply throw them out of the country.

                        The accusations against them include aggravated breach of the peace and obstruction of a police arrest. Reports from last year suggest that one of the actions they were alleged to have been involved in included breaking into a university building and threatening people with objects that could have been used as potential weapons.

                        But the deportation orders go further. They cite a broader list of alleged behaviours: chanting slogans such as “Free Gaza” and “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free”, joining road blockades (a tactic frequently used by climate activists), and calling a police officer a “fascist”. Read closely, the real charge appears to be something more basic: protest itself.

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                        fascism in Germany! now I've heard everything

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                          *some white people

                          Isn’t putting a whole race in one category some of what the issue is in this world? Plenty of people disapprove of the inhumane shit going on but there’s only so much that can be done by the small numbers of those in the lower class. If it’s so easy to fix all this, why are you sitting on your computer rather than being out there trying to do something about it?

                          I’ve protested and spread the word, doing everything short of picking up a gun and going after politicians (which would surely end up with me dead for naught). Tired of seeing this shit.

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                          #notallmen vibes

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                            I mean, who else would have been able to run the government

                            Holocaust survivors and refugees, for starters. Germany was fully occupied by the US and USSR, so all the big decisions were going through DC/Moscow anyway. Turning the government over to survivors and any resisters you could find would have made far more sense than simply handing the country back to the Fascists.

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                            I agree from a moral standpoint but from the perspective of efficient rebuilding I disagree.

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                              But are they self sealing?

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                              Of course!

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                                I agree from a moral standpoint but from the perspective of efficient rebuilding I disagree.

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                                Why would you want to efficiently rebuild the Third Reich?

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                                  What people on this thread dont realize. It seems like what they did was quite more severe than just calling a police officer a fascist.

                                  Translated:

                                  An attempt was made to drag employees out of offices; the attackers were “also masked and armed with axes, saws, crowbars and clubs”. Six-figure property damage was caused

                                  Source (German)

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                                  What you people don't realize is that you are distorting reality to fit your narrative. How about telling the whole story instead of insinuating that they did this?

                                  Show proof, until it happens your statement is worthless and dishonest.

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                                    Can you read?

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                                    Your edit is literal cancer and just made up by you.

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                                      Thats true

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                                      Then take your posts down and stop spreading misinfo.

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                                        Germany has recently taken a chilling new step, signalling its willingness to use political views as grounds to curb migration. Authorities are now moving to deport foreign nationals for participating in pro-Palestine actions. As I reported this week in the Intercept, four people in Berlin – three EU citizens and one US citizen – are set to be deported over their involvement in demonstrations against Israel’s war on Gaza. None of the four have been convicted of a crime, and yet the authorities are seeking to simply throw them out of the country.

                                        The accusations against them include aggravated breach of the peace and obstruction of a police arrest. Reports from last year suggest that one of the actions they were alleged to have been involved in included breaking into a university building and threatening people with objects that could have been used as potential weapons.

                                        But the deportation orders go further. They cite a broader list of alleged behaviours: chanting slogans such as “Free Gaza” and “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free”, joining road blockades (a tactic frequently used by climate activists), and calling a police officer a “fascist”. Read closely, the real charge appears to be something more basic: protest itself.

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                                        Germany repeating the history. Twice.

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                                          What the actual fuck is going on with humanity?

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                                          Fucking seriously. Just how much of the world has always been a bunch of hateful shits who only needed a bigger asshole to kick things off?

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