Nintendo delays Switch 2 preorders over tariff concerns
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Doesn't think switch is groundbreaking. Proceeds to list handheld that wouldn't exist without the Switch breaking that ground. lol
You're going to need some evidence that that's the case because my understanding is that Valve had been working on the steam deck for a while.
Hell the steam deck isn't even the first handheld gaming computer, and the switch came out after the first handhelds, so even if Valve were influenced by the existence of the switch (which they weren't), we would have still got the steam deck via other mechanisms.
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The Switch 2 looks like absolute garbage so they can keep it.
My next console purchase with be a Steam Deck.
I'll probably get the Switch 2 eventually, but not for a year or two. I also have a Steam Deck, and they're both great.
I'll be interested to see a comparison between the Steam Deck and Switch 2 since the Switch 2 could have better performance (but probably comparable).
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*in the USA
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Physical copies if they are made outside the US, digital no iirc
Ahh so software can cross borders for free. Then presumably they can just rent a shed somewhere to write data to what ever storage media they use these days.
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a lot of savings
Savings for who? If nothing is changed and manufacturers (and retailers) doesn’t make any kind of commercial gesture, the only ones paying more are the American consumers.
So moving the manufacture would be a saving for every Joe and Jane in the US, not Nintendo nor the ROTW.
Not moving the manufacture might be a loss of % in their US consumer base as prices will be too high there, but is it big enough to justify the enormous costs needed to move an entire industry workflow?
I don’t think so, specially when there is so many instability in the US politic, if you move to an other country at great cost and 2 weeks later a new tariff is declared (because why not), you moved everything for no reason but still lost your investment.
My belief is that no industry nor country will adapt, they will just increase the US market prices and keep on living like before with the ROTW. The only ones to suffer will be the American citizens and I’m sorry for them, but there is an all planet to trade with.
If you have a product that cost 500 with a markup of 50, but tariffs are pushing it to 750, it could easily be worth spending 50 to reduce tariffs to 650 and sell it at 700. You make just as much profit on each unit and you reduce the per unit cost which likely means more sales.
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The Switch 2 looks like absolute garbage so they can keep it.
My next console purchase with be a Steam Deck.
i have a steam deck and it's awesome but it's silly to think that it looks like garbage. the switch 2 looks pretty awesome.
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I see a lot of people ragging on the switch and comparing it to the Steam Deck. I own both but
I’m gonna say this: they’re not even direct competitors. They don’t offer the same experiences at all.
The beauty of the Switch is the ease of use, modularity of control, and communal nature of it. Even if switch online sucks, playing with other switches or 8 people in the same room with certain games is unbelievably easy. The plug and play usability and every single game you can buy from the internal store just works.
Not to mention the dock is flawless and literally easy to use. For all its problems, the switch is a surprisingly well executed idea. There’s a reason they sold hundreds of millions of them.
Steam is catching up, but there’s still a ways to go between proton compatible games, connecting controllers, plugging into a dock without having to bend down and plug a cable etc. The Switch is simply put: easy.
That said, Nintendo is stupid for pricing the Switch 2 out of the “no brainer” casual gamer territory.
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I delayed my preorder when I saw the bullshit price gouging for game prices.
Have you seen that nowhere is selling switch games for $90?
Look into it.
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If you have a product that cost 500 with a markup of 50, but tariffs are pushing it to 750, it could easily be worth spending 50 to reduce tariffs to 650 and sell it at 700. You make just as much profit on each unit and you reduce the per unit cost which likely means more sales.
What?
You have a product that costs 450 to produce.
And you add a 50 markup so you are selling at 500.
Tariffs push that 500 up to 750. Which means a 50% tariff.So you remove your 50 markup and sell it at cost in that market. Which means a product at 450 with a 50% tariff will cost 675.
You don't make any money on that sale. Fine, it's a loss-leader. Hopefully you make up the profit of game sales and subscriptions. Which will also be tariffed.For a finished product, the tariff is applied to the selling cost. It doesn't care about the value of the parts or the amount of markup.
A government isn't going to pick through a device and apply Country of Origin tariffs on every part, or separate company profit from cost-of-product.If a company says a product is worth 500, that's the amount the tariff is applied to.
I doubt Nintendo is going to eat the cost of tariffs.
It's insane to. They could say "we will still launch at this price", and have the us government cook up more tariffs or whatever. Then Nintendo is holding the bag, or has to renege on the price.
It would be smarter to mildly offset the cost. Like you say, knock $20-50 off but stipulate the final cost is subject to import duties.
I'd love them to say "well, you do you. This is the cost of the console. Your import duties are not out problem." But I feel (despite their bullshit legal department) Nintendo is more passionate than that, and I think they will mildly reduce the price -
I'll probably get the Switch 2 eventually, but not for a year or two. I also have a Steam Deck, and they're both great.
I'll be interested to see a comparison between the Steam Deck and Switch 2 since the Switch 2 could have better performance (but probably comparable).
That's the thing. It's 2025. The Switch came out in 2017 and the Switch 2 is barely a step up from the Switch OLED. Which, BTW, isn't even and option on the Switch 2. And 256 memory? Is that a joke? Plus their new scheme is to not have the games on the physical cartridge but to only have a key code on the cartridge that transfers to the console. And that's not even looking and the drastically inflated price of the games. Not just new games but all the old ones are priced out at $80 to $90 a piece as well.
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Have you seen that nowhere is selling switch games for $90?
Look into it.
Where did I say $90?
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I see a lot of people ragging on the switch and comparing it to the Steam Deck. I own both but
I’m gonna say this: they’re not even direct competitors. They don’t offer the same experiences at all.
The beauty of the Switch is the ease of use, modularity of control, and communal nature of it. Even if switch online sucks, playing with other switches or 8 people in the same room with certain games is unbelievably easy. The plug and play usability and every single game you can buy from the internal store just works.
Not to mention the dock is flawless and literally easy to use. For all its problems, the switch is a surprisingly well executed idea. There’s a reason they sold hundreds of millions of them.
Steam is catching up, but there’s still a ways to go between proton compatible games, connecting controllers, plugging into a dock without having to bend down and plug a cable etc. The Switch is simply put: easy.
That said, Nintendo is stupid for pricing the Switch 2 out of the “no brainer” casual gamer territory.
I see a lot of people saying they shouldn't be compared, but it still does make sense to do so as most can't afford both.
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I see a lot of people saying they shouldn't be compared, but it still does make sense to do so as most can't afford both.
And outside of coop couch, the switch pales in comparison on just about everything else.
Game prices: higher
Feel in hands? Awkward
Removable controllers: pop off or loosen during solo gameplay causing everything to pause in order to fix it, which can, but isn't always, be a quick easy fix.
Plus, games like Animal Crossing that allow coop couch still demand individual switch consoles if you want the full experience for multiple people.
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You can tell Americans think their country is the Internet, and the Internet is oriented for Americans.
You're not wrong. But OP just wrote what the title said and the article quickly clarifies its for the US.
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That's the thing. It's 2025. The Switch came out in 2017 and the Switch 2 is barely a step up from the Switch OLED. Which, BTW, isn't even and option on the Switch 2. And 256 memory? Is that a joke? Plus their new scheme is to not have the games on the physical cartridge but to only have a key code on the cartridge that transfers to the console. And that's not even looking and the drastically inflated price of the games. Not just new games but all the old ones are priced out at $80 to $90 a piece as well.
Uh, what?
The Switch OLED was a slight improvement in battery, a better screen, and a nicer kickstand. That's it.
The Switch 2 is an all new SOC, 1080p (more than the 1200x800 on Steam Deck) @ 120 hz, and a few other improvements. It's pretty comparable to the Steam Deck, just in a smaller form factor with a larger screen. We don't have direct head-to-head testing yet, but I expect it will trade blows with the Steam Deck, perhaps surpassing it in some games.
only have a key code on the cartridge that transfers to the console
That's not the only option on Switch 2, it's just an additional one. I imagine most games will still have the classic game card available.
I'm not happy about it, but I can see people preferring it to regular digital purchases for things like gifts.
Not just new games but all the old ones are priced out at $80 to $90 a piece as well.
That's a completely separate complaint from the console, and I'm really not sure why you brought it up. Nintendo doesn't compete on price for its games, they compete on IPs, gameplay, and overall experience.
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Are... Are we great again, yet?
Brown people can still drink from the same fountains still, so no. /s
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guess i will stick with this one🥲
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The Switch 2 looks like absolute garbage so they can keep it.
My next console purchase with be a Steam Deck.
Ask about your use case
You might do better with just a htpc
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guess i will stick with this one🥲
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And outside of coop couch, the switch pales in comparison on just about everything else.
Game prices: higher
Feel in hands? Awkward
Removable controllers: pop off or loosen during solo gameplay causing everything to pause in order to fix it, which can, but isn't always, be a quick easy fix.
Plus, games like Animal Crossing that allow coop couch still demand individual switch consoles if you want the full experience for multiple people.
outside of coop couch
Couch coop is pretty much the only reason we have a Switch. If it was just for me, I wouldn't bother.
As it stands, I have both: Steam Deck for me, Switch for family couch coop.
