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6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

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  • glog78@digitalcourage.socialG [email protected]

    @nuko147 @The_Picard_Maneuver

    May i ask why gaming on linux isn't for you ?

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    Nvidia user, i saw a 10-15% performance difference (maybe more in some games), some anti-cheat do not work, so i can not install these games. I used both Mint and Nobara with latest drivers running and proton-GE.

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      My experience with Linux gaming has varied pretty wildly. My old r9 290x could hardly run anything on linux. And if it did, it would run horribly compared to on windows.

      Recently I upgraded to an rx 7600, and nearly everything works out of the box or with minor tweaks. And it performs similarly to windows, even better on occasion.

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      Yeah NVIDIA GPUs, like mine, suck at Linux.

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        Privacy, UI/UX, admin controls, ads, pop ups or notifications, nagging about online services, AI, forced account creation, not working with older hardware.

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        I have a Win11 laptop for work, and they changed the Start menu. Now it's recent apps and recommendations for your starting point, and you have to click an option to see installed apps. Every. Time. There is a setting with 3 options - more recently used apps, more recommendations, or an even split of both, but the option to go straight to installed apps is mysteriously missing...

        I will never install Win11 directly onto my hardware. If I have to use it, it will go into a VM of one flavor or another.

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        • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zoneK [email protected]

          Pretty much, 1% of games don't work on Linux and its the top 1% most popular games

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          My problem is 100% of the DAWs I use don't work on Linux

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            Gaming on Linux has never been better. Out of the top 100 (mostly Windows platform) games, only 7 are entirely unplayable according to https://www.protondb.com/

            80/100 are Gold or Platinum rated which means very playable. I often get better performance in Linux than Windows, even with the default open source drivers. I am using an AMD GPU which gives an advantage as they have better open source support, but for NVIDIA all the Linux distros I've used have had a documented path to install their binary drivers for better performance.

            It's true that it sometimes takes a bit more tinkering, especially if you're using some esoteric controller or other funky hardware, but in the days of LLMs that can coach you through issues it's more accessible than it's ever been.

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            Nvidia GPUs are not good in Linux at the moment. And yeah all what you said. But i had tried Linux for gaming like something 5-8 years ago, and the situation is so much better now.

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              My problem is 100% of the DAWs I use don't work on Linux

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              Yeah, sometimes there are software that just won't have a Linux version. Thats to be expected because Linux isnt a Windows clone so itll never run all Windows software. If that software is important to you I would reccomend just installing Windows 11.

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              • glog78@digitalcourage.socialG [email protected]

                @MattTheProgrammer @The_Picard_Maneuver

                Since you wanna Game using network anyway did you ever thought of Cloud Gaming (aka Geforce Now) ? That way you don't have a "unsecure" device in your network. From a security standpoint even an device only used for gaming is a security risk 😉

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                FCK nvidia

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                  I just gave up on windows gaming. If the game cant be played on my steamdeck, I just find something else. Otherwise its macos and linux for anything non-professional that requires windows. And even then I fucking hate it. Oh look at that... all my documents say "Auto-recover (version 1)" because it forcibly rebooted on me.

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                    I don't care to much about steam at the moment so no real problem. But I will make the switch on my machine used for gaming to linux. No Win 11 there probably, some Arch-related, EndeavourOS is my actual choice.

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                      Noooooo. There was an article in the last 6 months about someone connecting a windows xp to the internet just to see what happened, and within 10 minutes it had been scanned and infected. They repeated the experiment several times.

                      It's child's play (like, literally script kiddie level) to run automated scans and if a vulnerability, like a really old operating system, is found to then attack it.

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                      Well, security through obscurity never really did work

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                        Is Windows actually stable though? I used to have to use it for work, it's a disgusting OS. Now I use Ubuntu for work, also disgusting, but it's much better than Windows

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                        "Mostly stable". I've had my fair share of issues with Windows.

                        But one of the big benefit is that it is much easier to diagnose an issue on Windows, just by sheer volume of mainstream usage (IE users complaining about issues and seeking help online). Also, tech support won't turn you around because you are on Linux, an OS they straight up refuse to support.

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                        • pathief@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

                          It might be a remote exploit or it might not. An OS is not just a program that runs in the background, if it is critically important.

                          These kind of exploiters don't tend to attack you in particular, they have botnets scanning the web for any compromised machine.

                          Running windows 10 is fine today, might not be fine after EOL. It is irresponsible to shrug it off and not even consider the alternatives out there, including windows 11.

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                          That's where the "analysis" part of "cost-benefit analysis" comes in and it doesn't make sense to generalize like you seem to want to.

                          Is it really that much more responsible to run Windows 11? You seem to have a LOT of faith in Microsoft to keep you safe. There's plenty of reasons to not switch to Windows 11.

                          I also use Linux on some machines. But I can also see why there are reasons why one distro or another, or even Linux in general, may not be the right call for some people.

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                          • communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyzC [email protected]

                            https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/brother-cups-wrapper-ac this might help you!

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                            It wasn't a silver bullet. I'll keep working on this. HL-L2400DW. Freaking nightmare printers are.

                            Thanks for trying.

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                              FCK nvidia

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                              @IceFoxX

                              I have used nvidia on my private PC on linux for more than a decade now. They provided a stable usable 3D acceleration in KDE1 when no other company did give a fuck about linux and voodoo had only their glide interface on the console.

                              As a customer i am very sad about the current state on linux and as a customer my next graphics card might be an AMD. The reasons are not only the driver but also that amd provides just more memory for the same money and i think that nvidia currently is cheating their way throu the consumer market (for real imaginary AI Pictures is a performance improvment ???).

                              But and thats why i disagree hardly with the "fuck nvidia" ... they deserve the respect for the support much longer than any brand out there and therefor they deserve a respectfull way to express where they imho do wrong.

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                                Do you have a swap partition? Is it the correct size? Also I think you can do a drive check on boot by changing an option in fstab.

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                                I've even taken out the drive that I had Linux installed, windows still has the issue, it started barely happening a year or so ago but recently it's gotten much much worse and it happens in waves(?) where it'll not have any issues for several days and then one day it will fail to wake up every time it goes to sleep, except when I'm testing. I recall testing the drive check on both Linux and windows, but both came out clean.

                                My bf and I have narrowed it down to probably being the power supply (last year there were a bunch of power outages after a historical flood here in southern Brazil) but the ram is also unstable at timings that it used to run perfectly fine, but the ram test came out clean so it's a big mess of possibilities RN. I'm just waiting for Monday to be able to buy a new power supply and a UPS to test, but even then we're still unsure if this will truly fix it or if I'll need to get a new motherboard.

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                                • communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyzC [email protected]

                                  Manjaro is legitimately a terrible choice, https://github.com/arindas/manjarno

                                  I used to give manjaro to a lot of people because i was an arch user and supported a bunch of linux users, it was a massive mistake, arch is just a strictly better version of manjaro, the things manjaro claims to do it doesn't do well because it's just kind of hacked onto arch. Let me give you an example of something stupid that manjaro does:

                                  normally, in linux, all packages are upgraded centrally, however, manjaro has decided to make an exception for the kernel, and now the kernel is versioned, and each version upgrades separately... this can result in you being stuck with an ancient kernel. I had to go into peoples computers, boot into a console, manually swap out the kernel, and put on the latest one, because the updater wouldn't update due to the newest drivers being incompatible with the old kernel.

                                  This happened enough times, that and the concerns raised in manjarno make me think it really isn't for anyone.

                                  If you're enough of an expert to fix these things... just use arch, it's strictly better. If you don't know what you're doing, an arch based distro is a terrible choice and you should go with bazzite.

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                                  Very helpful, thank you!

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                                    I already switched to Bazzite Desktop and it's been so good. I had some pains configuring somethings to my liking, but that was more due to me not being familiar with Linux. I'm never going back.

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                                    If I was considering Bazzite and Pop OS as options, which would you suggest I go with?

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                                      I've even taken out the drive that I had Linux installed, windows still has the issue, it started barely happening a year or so ago but recently it's gotten much much worse and it happens in waves(?) where it'll not have any issues for several days and then one day it will fail to wake up every time it goes to sleep, except when I'm testing. I recall testing the drive check on both Linux and windows, but both came out clean.

                                      My bf and I have narrowed it down to probably being the power supply (last year there were a bunch of power outages after a historical flood here in southern Brazil) but the ram is also unstable at timings that it used to run perfectly fine, but the ram test came out clean so it's a big mess of possibilities RN. I'm just waiting for Monday to be able to buy a new power supply and a UPS to test, but even then we're still unsure if this will truly fix it or if I'll need to get a new motherboard.

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                                      Hey, what's your usecase like that requires sleep in the first place? I've never used Sleep since I moved to using an SSD as a boot drive. My computer boots in around 12 seconds with the SSD that it just made sleep unnecessary.

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                                        I would like to switch to Linux on my gaming machine but me and my girlfriend play Valorant together so I can't switch just yet.

                                        My server and laptop already run NixOS, I'm just looking forward to the day my gaming/main machine join them too

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                                          If I was considering Bazzite and Pop OS as options, which would you suggest I go with?

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                                          Well, I cannot comment about PopOS because I simply don't know how it is, but Bazzite on desktop has been great. I didn't need to install anything related to gaming because it already comes with everything on it.

                                          Pretty much anything I needed is on the discovery store and it's handled like the app store on Android, so no headache of messing it up with installations or worrying about updates. Although, Bazzite is an immutable OS so anything that you need to install that's not on the store can be a headache.

                                          Also, my computer is an old laptop, so I got a performance boost as the system feels way smoother now than with Windows.

                                          About games, I played some indie games on Steam and Lutris and it worked flawlessly. But do note that for more recent systems, it appears to be some headaches, especially with NVIDIA graphics cards. I only play new games on streaming services, so I don't have those problems.
                                          But I do have some problems with the streaming service using my 8BitDo controller, but it's not related to the system, it's related to the service's bad drivers. When I stream the game using Steam, it's smooth sailing.

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