China launches HDMI and DisplayPort alternative — GPMI boasts up to 192 Gbps bandwidth, 480W power delivery
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If it's not usb-c it's banned in EU. Because we stopped there and we won't go forward.
I think you could have a second connector in addition to a main USBC.
Honestly we need higher capacity for screen cables for PC. Both HDMI and display port are limiting performance because of their low, 40-80gbps, bandwidth. Their performance maxes out at 4k120hz with uncompressed HDR color. You can't use 8k screens or multiple 4k screens without lowering quality.
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noo we need yet another standard!
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I think you could have a second connector in addition to a main USBC.
Honestly we need higher capacity for screen cables for PC. Both HDMI and display port are limiting performance because of their low, 40-80gbps, bandwidth. Their performance maxes out at 4k120hz with uncompressed HDR color. You can't use 8k screens or multiple 4k screens without lowering quality.
Where I work, everyone has 2 4k screens.
You can use two cables to connect them, you know...And every one of them has either put their scaling up to 150% or simply set them to 2k, because you cannot read a damn thing on them.
More than 4k is a theoretical need for a veeeery small market
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Where I work, everyone has 2 4k screens.
You can use two cables to connect them, you know...And every one of them has either put their scaling up to 150% or simply set them to 2k, because you cannot read a damn thing on them.
More than 4k is a theoretical need for a veeeery small market
Graphics cards only come with one HDMI port though. The LG OLED is popular for 4k screens because it ticks all the boxes and is much cheaper than equivalent gaming monitors, but that means it doesn't support dp.
And it means that you have to upgrade the graphics card just for the cable even if it is still relatively new. The point is that we shouldn't be held back by just a cable .
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If it's not usb-c it's banned in EU. Because we stopped there and we won't go forward.
Please don't make stuff up.
Other stuff isn't banned and the law already has allowances for emerging standards.
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It's likely dc current which without the alternating magnetic fields will not degrade the signal as bad. But I whole heartedly agree with you on power delivery. What could possibly need/use that much power‽
its super nice to plug a laptop into a screen and have the cable double as a charging cable for the laptop
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PCs can use >1KW.
I don't know why you'd power a PC over DisplayPort though. New 8k monitors do go up to 190W, so we could exceed 240W if we try hard enough.
A full PC, no, but a set top box definitely yes. And a set top box is plenty of computing power for a thin client, think workstations for accountants.
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Not really that impressive since it seems to be about four times as wide as USB-C
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Imagine putting out a new high bandwidth cable standard in 2025 based on copper
SFP? You mean the every device has slots to plug in different transceiver modules? I guess that would make it more future proof, but I think that will raise the cost, and might confuse ordinary people.
You have to think about the slot-transceiver compatibility and transceiver-medium compatibility then. Hmm... but I guess that would make it more transparent what is going on than having those chips embedded inside the cables, but not sure if we can leave them out, and require the end users to take care of thinking of all these compatibilities themselves or risk fire hazards.
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If it's not usb-c it's banned in EU. Because we stopped there and we won't go forward.
In case anyone is wondering, yes, this is utter nonsense. The EU made USB-C mandatory only as a charger for portable devices like phones, tablets, headphones and mice. That's all. This new standard, unwelcome as it is, has nothing to do with charging phones so there's no reason why it can't be used in the EU.
But let's not allow measley facts get in the way of having a moan at nothing, shall we? Fucking EU. Forcing us to [checks notes] chanre all out things using a single connector, reducing e-waste, and, uh, ensuring there's lots of futureproofing built-in. BASTARDS.
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Where I work, everyone has 2 4k screens.
You can use two cables to connect them, you know...And every one of them has either put their scaling up to 150% or simply set them to 2k, because you cannot read a damn thing on them.
More than 4k is a theoretical need for a veeeery small market
I disagree with the 4K being a theoretical need thing, but it's moot because where I work, every desk has a pair of 4K monitors that connect to the user's laptop via a single USB-C cable. That cable also connects a keyboard, mouse, gigabit ethernet connector and, depending on the desk, multiple cameras and conference audio and, of course, charges the laptop. At the moment that's mostly done using USB-C docking stations, but we've started to deploy monitors that are USB-C native and can be daisychained together.
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I wonder what the use case is for 480W though. Gigantic 80" screens generally draw something like 120W. If you're going bigger than that, I would think the mounting/installation would require enough hardware and labor that running out a normal outlet/receptacle would be trivial.
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Graphics cards only come with one HDMI port though. The LG OLED is popular for 4k screens because it ticks all the boxes and is much cheaper than equivalent gaming monitors, but that means it doesn't support dp.
And it means that you have to upgrade the graphics card just for the cable even if it is still relatively new. The point is that we shouldn't be held back by just a cable .
Graphics cards come with as many ports as the manufacturer wants them to. My home PC's GPU has two HDMI and two MiniDisplayPort. Also, there are cheap lossless adapters that will convert between MiniDisplayPort, DisplayPort, HDMI, DVI, etc, etc.
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the GPMI cable comes in two flavors — a Type-B that seems to have a proprietary connector and a Type-C that is compatible with the USB-C standard
I actually copied this from the article to come here to the comments and have a whinge about all the different USB-C standards, and here you are explaining the reason why.
The whole point of USB-C is that it's a standardised connector that allows anyone to shoehorn their own protocol down it if they want using Alt Mode. Moreover, they can do that without breaking compatibility with other USB-C - or even just specific features - if one of the devices doesn't speak their crazy-ass moon protocols. This is a benefit of USB-C, not a failing.
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It does! If there's a good alternative it can be proposed, or that's what I read here on Lemmy
Also, one of the reasons the EU waited for USB-C is that it specifically supports Alt Mode, which allows non-USB-standard protocols - like this new video connector thing - to be encapsulated within it.
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I wonder what the use case is for 480W though. Gigantic 80" screens generally draw something like 120W. If you're going bigger than that, I would think the mounting/installation would require enough hardware and labor that running out a normal outlet/receptacle would be trivial.
Sound for an 80" screen? Not for home systems.
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SFP? You mean the every device has slots to plug in different transceiver modules? I guess that would make it more future proof, but I think that will raise the cost, and might confuse ordinary people.
You have to think about the slot-transceiver compatibility and transceiver-medium compatibility then. Hmm... but I guess that would make it more transparent what is going on than having those chips embedded inside the cables, but not sure if we can leave them out, and require the end users to take care of thinking of all these compatibilities themselves or risk fire hazards.
yeah, I guess tvs and receivers would come with active optical cables to make it simpler, but the main thing is that optical is much cheaper and faster than copper once you get the economies of scale down on the transceivers. 1 terabit over 100km, down a cable thinner than a USB cable, is no problem with the right lasers.
Plenty of cheap optical HDMI cables out there, but they have compatibility issues. It would be so much easier with standard mmf mpo or SMF lc cables.
apalrd did review a unique product recently that embeds a mmf transceiver into the existing HDMI for factor, though.
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Not really that impressive since it seems to be about four times as wide as USB-C
So is HDMI? Smaller connectors aren't always better, and it's not like it's SCART size or something.
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its super nice to plug a laptop into a screen and have the cable double as a charging cable for the laptop
Yeah, agreed. But 480 watts‽
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