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I can't blame doctors for letting obesity color their opinion. Look around your doctor's waiting room. Everyone is fat. Imagine the suffering and illness they see daily due to fat. How can those observations not color their general attitude?
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I can't blame doctors for letting obesity color their opinion. Look around your doctor's waiting room. Everyone is fat. Imagine the suffering and illness they see daily due to fat. How can those observations not color their general attitude?
Everyone is fat
Exactly, which points squarely at an environmental cause, not at individual sloth/gluttony or some shit like that.
The conclusion you're saying doctors arrive at—which I don't doubt you're correct about—is actually completely fucking backwards.
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Everyone is fat
Exactly, which points squarely at an environmental cause, not at individual sloth/gluttony or some shit like that.
The conclusion you're saying doctors arrive at—which I don't doubt you're correct about—is actually completely fucking backwards.
which points squarely at an environmental cause
No, it points to people eating processed food and other shit. Guess what, you can still be healthy if you eat healthy.
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which points squarely at an environmental cause
No, it points to people eating processed food and other shit. Guess what, you can still be healthy if you eat healthy.
So then the question becomes, why is processed food and other shit so pervasive in the average American diet? That's what an environmental factor is.
Refusing to think about the problem in terms of systems because you've got a hard-on for blaming individuals is absolutely missing the point.
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So then the question becomes, why is processed food and other shit so pervasive in the average American diet? That's what an environmental factor is.
Refusing to think about the problem in terms of systems because you've got a hard-on for blaming individuals is absolutely missing the point.
Eating health is a responsibility of an individual.
Trying to blame the omnious evil system instead of the responsibility of each individual is absolutely missing the point.
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Eating health is a responsibility of an individual.
Trying to blame the omnious evil system instead of the responsibility of each individual is absolutely missing the point.
Then why are Americans so much worse at it, on average, than people in e.g. France or Japan. You can't just say "hurt durr Americans are just irresponsible;" that's a bullshit cop-out and you know it.
I'm trying to have a conversation about what it would take to actually solving the problem here; if you just want to feel morally superior you can go ahead and fuck off.
Oh, and by the way: even if the problem really were that Americans were more irresponsible on average compared to people from other countries, there would have to be a systemic reason why and that's the thing that would be relevant to talk about! Your thought-terminating cliche is completely fucking worthless.
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Then why are Americans so much worse at it, on average, than people in e.g. France or Japan. You can't just say "hurt durr Americans are just irresponsible;" that's a bullshit cop-out and you know it.
I'm trying to have a conversation about what it would take to actually solving the problem here; if you just want to feel morally superior you can go ahead and fuck off.
Oh, and by the way: even if the problem really were that Americans were more irresponsible on average compared to people from other countries, there would have to be a systemic reason why and that's the thing that would be relevant to talk about! Your thought-terminating cliche is completely fucking worthless.
You can’t just say “hurt durr Americans are just irresponsible;”
Actually, I can. That's why americans are more obese and have more credit card debt - it all boils down to irresponsibility.
I’m trying to have a conversation about what it would take to actually solving the problem here
Solving the problem would be rather simple, subsidize healthy food so a cucumber doesn't cost 6$. Make mandatory cooking classes in school so kids know how to cook, at least to some extent. The magical word is "education".
even if the problem really were that Americans were more irresponsible on average compared to people from other countries
There is no "if". They are.
there would have to be a systemic reason why
No. It boils down to people eating shitty food and not knowing/having no interest in knowing how to cook.
Like, we can argue all day about american processed food being full of additives and sugar and high fructose corn sirup etc, which is certainly the case, but at the end of the day, the people who eat it know that this is the case, so they are irresponsible, and if they don't, it once again boils down to education.
