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Florida man armed with garden shears survives gator attack before shot, killed by deputies

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  • P [email protected]

    Ok next time you see a meth head running about doing shit like this tell people not to call the cops because you’ll stop him by reasoning with him and hugging him.

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    How about we build a society where your insane take isn't common (insanely common), because we actually take care of people, reducing the possibility of this situation in the first place?

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      No.

      "Less lethal" is the actual descriptor. Like rubber bullets (which are about the size of a ping-pong ball).

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      • L [email protected]

        We need more Florida Man stories.

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        https://lemmyverse.net/communities?query=florida

        Nobody seems to have created a dedicated Florida Man community as of this writing, but there is [email protected].

        EDIT: Oh, wait, yes there is. Just no banner. [email protected]:

        • Florida Man Arrested For Having Three Wives In Different Counties After Dating App Scam Uncovered

        • Man in Florida 'shoots two Israelis he thought were Palestinian

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        • Florida Man eating 6-9 pounds of butter and cheese a day develops ‘cholesterol hands’ while on carnivore diet

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        • Sarasota man drove stolen car to Mar-a-Lago to talk to Trump in Palm Beach, police say

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        • P [email protected]

          How would you suppress a guy that just swam in crocodile infested waters and shrugged off a crocodile bite?

          Maybe the cops should have tried to ask the erratic, violent meth head trying ti steal their rifles to calm down nicely?

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          Dont think cops should have rifles to begin with, and if they didnt there wouldn't be any to steal.

          Secondly there's more than one cops, and they are ostensibly trained, though I know that might be going too far. I think 4 or 5 of them should be able to successfully neutralize even a meth head without killing them. People are way too blase about cops just having the ability and immunity to just kill people. Whether or not they're drug addicts

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          • P [email protected]

            How about we build a society where your insane take isn't common (insanely common), because we actually take care of people, reducing the possibility of this situation in the first place?

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            I wish for that too. But we’re talking about the society we live in, not in the idealized one we wish we lived in. In the one we live in the situation happened and I don’t think the cops were completely wrong to act the way they did. Could and should they have done something else, I guess all the comments point to yes, but that doesn’t mean that they were entirely wrong to act the way they did. I would not put my own life on the line if I’m in the position of having to defend myself against a rabid meth head trying to steal my rifle.

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              Dont think cops should have rifles to begin with, and if they didnt there wouldn't be any to steal.

              Secondly there's more than one cops, and they are ostensibly trained, though I know that might be going too far. I think 4 or 5 of them should be able to successfully neutralize even a meth head without killing them. People are way too blase about cops just having the ability and immunity to just kill people. Whether or not they're drug addicts

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              In order for cops not to have rifles the general population should not be allowed to have rifles. But being that is not the case then I think they are justified in carrying rifles.

              That doesn’t mean I think people should have rifles. Before I get bombarded here, it’s just the reality that they have them and that’s not changing anytime soon.

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              • P [email protected]

                I get what you’re saying. I would agree in almost every case. Not on this one. You try to reason with a violent meth head that is this out of his marbles and see how that turns out for you.

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                Medical staff do it routinely.

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                • A [email protected]

                  Ah most of these people probably think fighting is like the movies. Sure there might have been a better way did they have it nope.

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                  Because they’re taught instead that what they did was acceptable, and this is backed up by chuds in society.

                  Maybe if you started to be outraged and demanded non-lethal methods, they could have that better way next time.

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                    Indeed, one whacked out MAGAt.

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                    • T [email protected]

                      No one said to reason with them. Just neutralise them without using a lethal weapon. Mace, batons and manpower will put any unarmed person on the ground.

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                      So you think beating the shit out of someone is better than tasing them?

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                        The police do more harm than good

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                          A witness told detectives they saw the suspect run at deputies with the shears. He was tased twice, but it didn't stop him.

                          Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd said he climbed into the passenger side of a PCSO patrol vehicle, trying to get a deputy’s rifle.

                          That’s when two deputies, identified as a trainee and his trainer, opened fire on the suspect, killing him.

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                          • P [email protected]

                            I get what you’re saying. I would agree in almost every case. Not on this one. You try to reason with a violent meth head that is this out of his marbles and see how that turns out for you.

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                            lol social workers and public librarians do this every single day without guns

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                            • P [email protected]

                              I get what you’re saying. I would agree in almost every case. Not on this one. You try to reason with a violent meth head that is this out of his marbles and see how that turns out for you.

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                              I know probably less than you do about the story, but is either one of us sure this was really a violent meth head, or is that just what was written in the report / news story?

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                              • S [email protected]

                                Medical staff do it routinely.

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                                In Florida, medical staff also call "Baker Act" at the drop of a hat which basically puts the offender in a psych ward which is often more abusive than a prison.

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                                • S [email protected]

                                  So you think beating the shit out of someone is better than tasing them?

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                                  Let's see: do we want to see Daddy all beat up and bloody for a few days while he recovers / detoxes in jail, or do we want a nice tidy closed casket?

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                                  • P [email protected]

                                    Honestly I think in this case the cops responded as they should. They tried teasing him and that didn’t do anything and then he tried to take a rifle from them. At that point they didn’t have a lot of options.

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                                    Bullshit, man.

                                    Clock the dude with the handle of a pistol in his head.

                                    Kick him in the balls.

                                    Run away from him.

                                    Blind him.

                                    Not that I agree with some of those options, but my point is, executing a man who clearly needs help ain't it

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                                    • softestsapphic@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                      The police do more harm than good

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                                      Isn't that why they were created?

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                                      • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zipP [email protected]

                                        If they aren't in Europe why would they care if it is GDPR compliant?

                                        I'm probably overthinking this

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                                        Because they're still.legally responsible

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                                        • E [email protected]

                                          Bullshit, man.

                                          Clock the dude with the handle of a pistol in his head.

                                          Kick him in the balls.

                                          Run away from him.

                                          Blind him.

                                          Not that I agree with some of those options, but my point is, executing a man who clearly needs help ain't it

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                                          Run away. Great idea, now there's somebody undergoing a psychotic episode and acting violently running around with an assault rifle.

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