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SteamOS massively beats Windows on the Legion Go S

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  • A [email protected]

    To be completely honest, I am a little annoyed about all the people bringing up price.

    .... yo I agree too but we're talking about performance here not price.

    And saying that the price being free adds to the word "massive" being used aptly is just kinda dumb for real.

    Anyway I'm going to turn off notifications for this comment.
    You're correct that I'm probably being extra here. Well, you implied it but it's true.
    It's just like people don't want to converse man. Thought we came out here that this part of the internet because we could actually talk about things, not say "no u"

    and I'm definitely frustrated that I've been making comments for quite a while and the most engagement is when I barely say something not even negative about Linux.

    Idk man. Have a nice day

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    I can understand where you're coming from. Sometimes people do pile on over silly things. It sucks to self-censor but I think I've learned just to stay quiet on a lot of the topics people will jump on me for. The worst is when people will accuse you of holding horrible bigoted views because you make a comment about how something in a post or comment isn't exactly true. Any dissent = black and white judgement sometimes. The internet is way worse than it should be...

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      Btw I love Linux

      I just think a lot of the discussion here gets lost because of the memes I guess?

      Okay that's fair. I disagree with the word "massive" being used here but that's my right to do so etc etc.

      To better answer your question: (stream of thought consciousness narrated into my phone so be forewarned)

      Because I never brought price into the equation but other people love to start moving the goal post when all I said was massive is not the right word here.

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      It's absolutely your right, and fine to disagree with the usage of the word "massive" in this context. It's not OK to insult people who disagree with you however.

      It's OK for people to have differing opinions, and your initial comment was a good discussion starter. The edit complaining about it causing said discussion, saying "it's that simple," the subsequent post stating that you believed your opinion on the matter was the absolute truth based on the dictionary definition of the word "massive," and that any disagreement was insane in your opinion, is where I take umbrage. I hope you can see where I'm coming from.

      I'm sorry that your comment has ultimately driven such a negative response, and I hope you are able to have a good day regardless.

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      • A [email protected]

        You care so much about glorifying linux everything else falls away.

        In one specific game the battery life is much much better. In that one specific use case the word "massive" is used aptly.

        All the other minor improvements are just that minor. Bud you saying that I'm wrong doesn't make me wrong.

        And of course the vice versa applies.

        How I KNOW this is not a normal discussion..... Who the hell brought up price? Certainly not me

        Please continue to talk about random shit I never mentioned. I don't care. you do you

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        only one proselytizing anything here is you, bud.

        and you seem to be proselytizing for windows with how insistent you are to try to handwave and rugsweep the increases in performance and usability

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        • A [email protected]

          You care so much about glorifying linux everything else falls away.

          In one specific game the battery life is much much better. In that one specific use case the word "massive" is used aptly.

          All the other minor improvements are just that minor. Bud you saying that I'm wrong doesn't make me wrong.

          And of course the vice versa applies.

          How I KNOW this is not a normal discussion..... Who the hell brought up price? Certainly not me

          Please continue to talk about random shit I never mentioned. I don't care. you do you

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          An improvement of 5-10 fps doesn't seem like a lot, but it's like buying a newer gen graphics card, at least for some games. Or what you would achieve with a medium to substantial overclock. In this case it's just the OS though. Just the software.

          You care so much about glorifying linux everything else falls away.

          What else? Nitpicking at the use of words in news articles?

          What I'm personally more skeptic about is the actual numbers. We don't have benchmarks. We just have this one table that shows fps, and no 1% and 0.1%s.

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            #29

            How much better does Linux play Fortnite?

            oh

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            • A [email protected]

              You care so much about glorifying linux everything else falls away.

              In one specific game the battery life is much much better. In that one specific use case the word "massive" is used aptly.

              All the other minor improvements are just that minor. Bud you saying that I'm wrong doesn't make me wrong.

              And of course the vice versa applies.

              How I KNOW this is not a normal discussion..... Who the hell brought up price? Certainly not me

              Please continue to talk about random shit I never mentioned. I don't care. you do you

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              #30

              I don’t find arguing semantics to be very productive, which I think is the reason you are being downvoted. The differences between SteamOS and Windows on the Legion Go are very significant, with SteamOS gaining as much as hours of extra gameplay, in addition to modest performance gains and major improvements to usability and quality of life. And yes, the Windows tax is very much a part of the big picture even if it’s not mentioned in the article. With Windows preloaded, you are paying $100-200 more for a significantly worse product. I don’t see any reason to engage in Windows apologetics over this, especially here.

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              • dumbass@leminal.spaceD [email protected]

                Much like another game, that we just lost.

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                At some point in the future I'll come find you and remind you of what you took from me.

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                • deconceptualist@lemm.eeD [email protected]

                  This quick video from The Phawx seems to show that the battery performance difference isn't actually inherent to Windows, but rather that the GPU drivers don't throttle down the TDP when they should.

                  https://youtu.be/7gzkKL-axCM

                  Windows has plenty of other issues but it seems any frustration about this specifically should be pointed at AMD.

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                  Amd makes the drivers for both Linux and Windows brotha.... So Microsoft wasn't able to fix something the open source community in collab with amd could?...

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                  • A [email protected]

                    Massively?

                    Yeah there's improvements, battery and performance wise

                    There's nothing massive here there is a decent bump in specifically the cyberpunk fps

                    Edit: geez this single comment brought more people out of the woodwork to respond to me than anything else I have commented on lemmy

                    I'm not even here arguing which one is better like come on now

                    Massively is the wrong word to use it's that simple

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                    I think you just don't understand or have a frame of reference for performance numbers.

                    Massive is the right word.

                    A simple OS shift and you are looking at a more than generational improvement in performance, and a multi generational improvement in battery life: massive.

                    I get that you might not be into these kinds of numbers enough to know what you are talking about about, but maybe refrain from commenting till you develop some context.

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                    • A [email protected]

                      It's insane to me that we're disagreeing about the word massive.
                      Rather than simply using it as the English definition.....

                      We're using the hype culture definition of massive.
                      Bro get over yourself. The improvements are NOT massive, fps or battery wise.

                      They are better and possibly even TONY THE TIGER GREAT. Massive is the size of your mom's ass, not these gains based on a different OS.

                      Also I respect all mothers but I couldn't help but use a dumb joke to make my point.

                      And last but not least.... Go make this argument about price and or Linux to anybody that needs convincing. Because it's not me man. I have a Linux rig. I also have a Mac OS and a Windows (gasp) 11 laptop because i code, make music, and play games. Sometimes I just browse the web for fun

                      By the way guess which OS is least compatible with the many different softwares I use for these purposes? It's Linux.

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                      #34

                      I mean, it's pretty clear that you are just dummy wrong.

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                      • vanilla_puddinfudge@infosec.pubV [email protected]

                        How much better does Linux play Fortnite?

                        oh

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                        99% of games work on Linux, the 1% that don't happen to be all the major multiplayer games people acturally want to play

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                        • vanilla_puddinfudge@infosec.pubV [email protected]

                          How much better does Linux play Fortnite?

                          oh

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                          I know you're just trying to bait folks, but I think you can play it on Linux using Xbox cloud gaming.

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                          • trickdacy@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                            I can understand where you're coming from. Sometimes people do pile on over silly things. It sucks to self-censor but I think I've learned just to stay quiet on a lot of the topics people will jump on me for. The worst is when people will accuse you of holding horrible bigoted views because you make a comment about how something in a post or comment isn't exactly true. Any dissent = black and white judgement sometimes. The internet is way worse than it should be...

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                            I don't particularly enjoy the downvotes people get on here for dissenting opinions. I liked the old school Reddit mentality of "if it adds to the discussion".

                            Any dissent = black and white judgement sometimes.

                            I was trying to say the US Dems aren't the same as the Republicans. I did state I didn't like them either and listed something Biden did that's good. Someone accused me of defending genocide and a plethora of other things afterwards.

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                              99% of games work on Linux, the 1% that don't happen to be all the major multiplayer games people acturally want to play

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                              #38

                              Pirated are a pain tho, I gave up on my daily drive Linux after trying to install a Fitgirl repack on it, then I just realized installing W11 was faster.

                              I still use Linux every day for work tho

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                                Pirated are a pain tho, I gave up on my daily drive Linux after trying to install a Fitgirl repack on it, then I just realized installing W11 was faster.

                                I still use Linux every day for work tho

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                                Fitgirl repacks are broken and have been for a while. Dodi repacks work fine.

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                                • L [email protected]

                                  I don't particularly enjoy the downvotes people get on here for dissenting opinions. I liked the old school Reddit mentality of "if it adds to the discussion".

                                  Any dissent = black and white judgement sometimes.

                                  I was trying to say the US Dems aren't the same as the Republicans. I did state I didn't like them either and listed something Biden did that's good. Someone accused me of defending genocide and a plethora of other things afterwards.

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                                  Oh -- yeah, anything but advocating for opposing democrats at all costs is "defending genocide" to a large population of lemmy. It's pathetic.

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                                    I don't particularly enjoy the downvotes people get on here for dissenting opinions. I liked the old school Reddit mentality of "if it adds to the discussion".

                                    Any dissent = black and white judgement sometimes.

                                    I was trying to say the US Dems aren't the same as the Republicans. I did state I didn't like them either and listed something Biden did that's good. Someone accused me of defending genocide and a plethora of other things afterwards.

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                                    From what I can tell, at least in this specific instance, aubertlone has only received downvotes for comments they made that were directly attacking or insulting those with differing opinions from themselves. I believe their initial comment before the edit did add positively to the discussion.

                                    I can't speak to the second part of your comment, but I'm sorry to hear that you received that response to your opinions.

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                                      Amd makes the drivers for both Linux and Windows brotha.... So Microsoft wasn't able to fix something the open source community in collab with amd could?...

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                                      I don't know the business negotiations of all that. But if you watch the video, Phawx basically uses one single command to lower the wattage on his Windows handheld and instantly triple the expected battery life. The underlying OS clearly supports it. Seems to me like the AMD driver just isn't detecting that the game has light power needs and so isn't throttling like it should.

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                                        I know you're just trying to bait folks, but I think you can play it on Linux using Xbox cloud gaming.

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                                        It isn't bait, more of a reminder that no matter how many indie games run on Linux, Fortnite, the most popular shooter on earth, doesn't, and it will forever be a band-aid of cope to say "stop playing shit" every time someone brings it up.

                                        People are basic and dumb, they love shit.

                                        No shit? Guess I'll stay with Windows.

                                        Who knew people so used to shit would want to continue enjoying it?

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                                          Dave’s got a lot of mileage out of that video. Famous overnight essentially! Seeing this type of article everywhere

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